/fit/ - Fitness, Health, and Feels

>>124081

To clarify, when I say fake shit I mean specifically things like protein shakes. These get made using silicone balls which grind up the protein in order to powder everything. You're essentially ingesting plastic into your body and the matter of the fact is that there is nothing natural about it… 300 years ago there is no way one could ingest so much protein living off a natural diet unless I am wrong somehow… and if so and that is the case, then why not do things in that fashion? You see, I see that as laziness and I often wonder if other people feel the same way. Regardless. I'm looking for /fit/izens who are not even drinking protein shakes and are simply working out without the help of crutches such as shakes or supplements. I get that it takes longer if don't do it but I find guys who swear by shit like that are nothing but a bunch of weak faggots who are looking for an easy way to build muscle. IDGAF

>>124089

Thank you for clarifying anon. And for your kindness. Makes sense when you put things that way but I still reckon it's a shortcut in a way. I look at our ancestors, or even if one looks at the statue of David, the epitome of the shape of man. or the Spartans and/or Legionairres… Shit even our dads (depending on how old you are) back in the day were in the army and at wars and fit as fuck. They didn't have these magic protein boosts we have today and I have never ever drunken one or ever intend to do so. If you say it'll only affect 5-10% in a workout, then I may as well skip it.

However, not shitting on your viewpont since you put it so adequately and amicably. But appreciate the response and would most definitely agree on youre diet vs exercise ratio. Been trying to cut down on the alcohol and eating less carbs, more salads. Lost all the manboobs and now just working on the stomach. Lost a few jean sizes, legs and torso are bigger and working hard on my core. Now just need to fix the outside if that makes sens. Appreciate your detailed response though and thanks for the insights.

I can't shake (sorry for pun) the feeling that if many of these romanticized ancestral men of old were brought to today, they'd go ahead and drink the protein shakes. I used to care a lot about doing everything the authentic hard way, but what usually ended up happening in those scenarios was I didn't make fast enough progress to stick with it. But when I take the shortcuts that are more or less harmless, my fast progression keeps me motivated and as a result I end up building a stronger will little by little, rather than running out of steam before I can improve it. The way I see it, if you want your goal enough to reach it in the first place, you'll do almost anything to get there. And at the end of the day, when you're a shredded cunt nobody is going to ask you if you used creatine and then dismiss your gains.

Fags taking protein shakes and shit like that are just dumb sheltered rich momma boys being conned out of their lunch money.

I agree with you that they arent NATTY MASTER RACE® like us but they cant achieve anything we cant, they literally can only get fatter faster.

>>124081

>/pol/ack here

just like the 80% of 8ch, i'm not sure why you pointed this out

>I say this is because one can look to history of strong men and how they accomplished their form with nothing more than a usual diet and lifestyle.

they also didn't have grocery stores, antibiotics, vaccines…

they even didn't have dumbells, barbells or cable machines!

protein and multivitamins are not cheat, they are meals, they are a way to eat your macros/micros in a more easy or cheap way

of course they are usless against a good diet, but eating protein isn't cheating

you are just like the ones that do the "paleo diet"

>>124089

would you consider Neal protein shakes to be a good source of product?

They have 14g of protein, and 90 calories per scoop, I've been using this for about a week, the supplements I got were a gift from family, but the fact that I have never heard of this brand worries me.

I'd check the nutrition facts if I had it with me atm, but I'm out of town for a while.

>>124102

>Neal

fack, I meant Zeal

You definitely are a faggot for making a new QTDDTOT thread when there was one in the catalog, and you're still a faggot for thinking anything not paleo is "cheating" or a "crutch." Our ancestors couldn't get anywhere near as fucking yuge as we can get, even within the realm of natty bodybuilding/powerlifting. Now we can reach that potential much easier than they could and you want to throw it in the trash because you think it's not 100% necessary. Wait until you start reaching serious plateaus and struggle to cram in enough calories to break through.

Bottom line: If it's beneficial and not significantly harmful in any way, there's no reason not to use it. If it is harmful, consider if the risks are worth the benefits. (For anybody other than advanced lifters near/at genetic max, they usually aren't.) Anything else is autism.

>>124097

OP here, different VPN. I laughed too much for the pun. True, your point is truly valid although I'm not looking to become a cloud. I just want my body to be at the maximum and see how far I can push it.

>>124098

Basically this is the way I think. I grew up extremely poor (still poor but not poor poor. i.e. I can afford to live now) and my dad bought me a rusty bench press which I never used because I was a faggot and only years later and after I had moved out of house, etc did I realise that it was a missed opportunity. Now i'm at an old school gym, cash only, cheap, all the amenities except for a pool. friendly people, underground types but nonetheless a lot better and cheaper than what you would find at your franchised places. Thanks for your input.

>>124101

>/pol/ack here

IDK man, there's a lot of effeminate lefties around and I wanted to announce it to give you all a background and also to show you that i'm a newfag to this board. Had no idea though and I thank you for the warm welcome. True, they had none of that but I'd argue that it was a much more physical world back then. You were forced to carry heavy shit and walk many miles, cardio was essential or else you'd die in combat as a soldier or be killed in the trade routes. Unless you're in construction, you're pretty much a very comfy human bean and have the benefit of a great diet. I would tend to think that back in the day they'd be lean and muscular due to the basic fact of survival. I don't know about the paleo diet, as I've admitted before, i'm a dumbass. I eat what I feel like eating and I know fuck all about any diet/calorie intake, etc. I just stopped eating wheat and trying to drink less beer. Since then it's helped with the weight loss and I've actually lost the mantits I had on diet alone. Feels fucking great man. Appreciate your input though.

>>124113

Sorry for being a faggot. I was/am drunk (been about 10 years now) and really fighting the addiction of drinking. Replacing bad habits with good ones which is why I joined the gym and shed the weight. One of the best fucking decisions I ever made. Appreciate the feedback though. Looking to get into powerlifting once I reach my goal. I'm looking good and I'm content with where I am now but I'm going to keep going and keep pushing. Perhaps my views will change when I get there. But thank God, I think… I mean I think i've got good genes, a naturally tall frame with broad shoulders so things are looking up. Even my lady is noticing the changes and it's only been 4 months. What I meant by harmful was the manner that the protein shakes are made. There's a large proportion of plastic that one ingests if you were to drink it due to the manufacturing process. I know this because i've seen it in the factory. They use tiny plastic pellets (like bb gun pellets) in a crushing machine (think of how they stonewash jeans) and this is shit that gets mixed into it all. Granted only a fraction. But ya, it is what it is. Thanks for your opinion though.

>>124081

Protein shakes, creatine, and vitamins aren't cheating. They are actually less effective than getting your protein and nutrients from healthy food sources. They do serve a purpose when the cost or preparation of good foods gets in the way of you consuming them. For example, you can get all the creatine your body needs from lean red meat, but if the cost becomes an issue creatine can be a great addition to your diet.

>>124119

>human bean

>>124120

>and everybody is extremely constructive rather than destructive.

you must be new here

>>124127

He is definitely new and has admitted that, but he's also right in a sense if he's coming here from 4chan. The /fit/ over there is filled to the brim with bitter and insecure losers, and very few people retain their confidence after spending enough time there. I don't mean to use SJW terms, but it is a very body negative board compared even to this one. I think 8/fit/ probably has a much higher ratio of adults to children and of healthy to unhealthy.

>>124081

>smoker and alcoholic

If you want ANY gains you gotta drop both of those retarded habits. Smoking ruins your lungs and drop the jew drink. Instead get a large cup of water and drink that.

Help, I think I fucked my neck. I was doing squats around 6 days ago, and may have place the bar wrong on my back. It gave me a pounding headache, and now when ever I try to lift, or when jacking it I get a nasty pulsing headache. It starts in the back of my neck, and the top-front area of my head. It hurts worse when I feel my heart beat, in some kind of pulsing pattern

How do I fix this, and is it something to go to the doctor over?

>>124081

Yes full natty. I don't think you need 200mg of Protein per day and then eating real food becomes obviously imo superior to powder shit. Creatine only gives you water gainz. Vitamin pills are a joke, the body can't even use that stuff it just gets pissed out again.

>>124194

You should go to a chiropractor. They will be able to tell what is wrong, and based on that they can either fix it there, improve it and give you stretches to do at home, or refer you to a reputable doctor if it needs more than physical therapy.

>>124194

I asked my dad, who is a chiropractor. He says it could be an exertion headache, or possibly if you had some really tight trigger points on your trapezius you could have set the bar on them and essentially pissed them off. Google "exertion headaches" and "myofascial pain pattern for trapezius" and see if the symptoms and pictures match up with your problem. Heat and massage will both help you recover.

>people say masturbation (and therefore porn) is bad for gains because you lose testosterone

>masturbation releases stress

>stress levels build and cortisol fucks with you

>stress impacts gains and recovery

I'm confused, this seems like a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. But what is the least harmful?

If fapping is ok, is porn ok?

Also anyone know if meditation helps with gains?

Rate my Routine:

>Squat 5x5

>Power Clean 5x5 / Hanging Leg Raises 5xF

>Bench 5x5 / Band pull-aparts 5x20

>Push Press 5x5 / Chinups 5xF

>Deadlift 5x5

>Squat 5x5 / Hanging Leg Raises 5xF

>Press 5x5 / Band pull-aparts 5x20

>Bench 5x5 / Weighted Chinups 5x5

A / B means superset

5x5 is with 5/3/1 percentages, either 5's pro with 2xFSL (i.e. 65-75-85-65-65 %, first week)

or 5x5 FSL for the second lift (i.e. 5x65 / 70 / 75 for the three weeks)

>>124278

I'm pretty sure when it comes to fapping, regular release is in order - if you have no other sexual activity. If you have a gf you can fuck a couple of times per week, you don't need to fap. If you don't, you should fap once a week or every couple of days. Long-term nofap is just a good idea if you struggle with porn/masturbation addiction, i.e. edging for hours or fapping 3 times a day.

Yeah, fapping both releases stress and lowers testosterone, but "use it or lose it" applies here too. Moderation really is the key.

When it comes to porn (or erotic imagery in general), it's a different issue. It's mostly that it can cause problems with real life sexuality.

But on the other hand, looking at naked women arouses you (raises test), so it might be not so bad to look at porn/erotica before lifting (or even in general).

I think the real problems appear when you combine the two, when you masturbate to porn. You have to keep the mental stimulation of erotic imagery and the physical stimulation of masturbation separate.

>>124278

Meditation helps with everything. Porn is harmful because of the dopamine issues, regular consumption prevents you from ever becoming an alpha. Guys who have a lot of sex do so because it's worth pursuing, but if you've got any fantasy you can think of at your fingertips to self-medicate with, you won't do shit. It also gives you a very inaccurate view of sex. Men are meant to have sexual release semi-frequently, so find a psychologically and hormonally healthier way to do it. Nofap is why priests touch children. If you really have to masturbate, use your imagination. The visualization practice does wonders for your memory and focus. Literotica is the only semi-acceptable form of pornography.

>>124282

Looking at women raises test but you should only look at women you could pursue. If you look at them enough, you're going to flip a switch and need sexual release. Looking at pictures means you will masturbate, but looking at women IRL means you will (hopefully) approach them.

Question: what does everyone's Macros look like?

I'm sitting at ~14% Carbs and Fats and Proteins ~40-50% (it varies) recently.

>>124295

you will have a heart attack soon

>>124200

Thanks for the consultation, son of a chiropractor. What you said describes my issue almost perfectly, and after reading up, turns out I had bad form on my squats. It's been ~1 and a half weeks and hurts less and I cant afford a chiropractic visit, so I might just wait it out. I learn best by fucking up first anyway

>>124235

>>124313

well aren't I an idiot for quoting the wrong post

Fatfag here; I lift every 2-3 days, but what can I do inbetween to keep my TDEE up without destroying my knees?

>>124313

>>124314

They were both me. It might help in the short run to fill a tube sock with rice and microwave it. You can put it on your neck and it eases a lot of tension.

>>124325

Cardio you fatfuck

If you aren't doing cardio you need to be.

>>124327

No fucking shit, genius. That doesn't help me in the slightest.

>>124081

>normal diet

>old time strongman

Yeah, I guess that's why Louis Cyr was morbidly obese. Because he ate a "normal" diet and not sixteen chickens a day. Without protein shakes, that's what you do: You go fucking nuts when eating. There's a reason one of the tales of Milo von Croton was that he ate grown bulls in one day.

>>124278

Look up what Jamie Lewis says on it. No, masturbation does not destroy gains. It just doesn't. The spike in testosterone is not biologically available, there are no empirical studies that prove NoFap increases performance, and the guy that invented NoFap id a skelly while Jamie Lewis, a degenerate who did Gay4Pay, deadlifts over three times bodyweight.

>>124123

Makes sense. Spoke to a few other guys and I think an anon said that once you reach your goal, it becomes almost impossible to bulk up without additional supplements. I'm a poorfag and I don't really care to be honest. I just want to be healthy and be in proportion to my frame.

>>124248

I don't own a horse. But you're right, i'm a hypocrite I suppose. The thing is, my intake is degenerate and hinders my gains, not the opposite. Besides, i don't have money for powders and it doesn't interest me anymore. My attention span is too short. lel. But no, I won't think i'm more superior. In fact, I look up to you guys who have the dedication and lifestyle to continue this day in and day out. I try to go as much as possible, but sometimes I just can't get out of bed because i'm fucked up in my mind… then again so are most people so I'll just git gud and take what you said to heart. I didn't mean to come across as superior. I just don't like people who boast about their gains when they're jacked up on roids, powders, kreatine and shit because they got there a lot faster than say, others.

>>124138

Nah m8, I joined 8ch along with the first exodus, i'm just new to /fit/. Always thought everybody were a bunch of gays based off of the screencaps from the board (probs halfchan) but I was mistaken and you guys are a lot friendlier than I thought.. /pol/ has gone to shit and so has /b/, this whole site is sinking so i'm lurking other boards and learning. Especially /fit/ because I lost a loved one and I let myself go down the gutter, hence the smoking and drinking intensified. I've been a drinker for 10 years and it took its toll on my life and liver… but after she died I just fucking lost it and found my job, life going downhill.. I cried a lot and I still do because I miss her sometimes but being in the gym has helped me drink a little less than usual and I feel less sad. I guess it's the healthy body, healthy mind and I suppose that's true.

Anyhow, thank you for the input, I do appreciate people such as yourself. Have a lovely day anon.

>>124125

>autism intensifies

>>124180

I know that. I'm hooked on the red wine jew and beer. Struggling to quit it but i'm working hard on it.

>>124253

>>124255

Fucking hell, I don't even have an mp3 player and no phones are allowed on the gym floor. But I lol'd at your post. Don't really have music even. It's all on the internet I guess. But you make a good point you glorious bastard. I don't know enough about workouts or diets but that would be a fucking interesting thing to research and try. Isn't there already some spartan type exercise? I've looked into it but i'm not yet there yet. Still getting fit. Haven't lost all the stomach fat yet but my shoulders are broader and i've dropped 2 jean sizes so life is looking good again.

>>124484

Let's remember what the OP said:

>>124084

>300 years ago there is no way one could ingest so much protein living off a natural diet unless I am wrong somehow

He specifically said that taking protein shakes is not natty because 300 years ago, it wasn't possible to ingest comparable amounts of protein. Yet this is wrong. Eating tons of chicken, fish and eggs was always possible and has been done by many strongmen throughout the ages. Why should I not be natty because I drink a protein shake occasionally while Louis Cyr, who literally ate six pounds of chicken for breakfast, is still natty? He definitely took in more protein than me.

And yes, Cyr is an extreme example. Sandow, Hackenschmidt and so on weren't eating a third as much, but you can bet they got a good source of protein. Even the strongmen who talked about tempering yourself and not overeating sure as hell didn't get strong from eating salads and berries.

>>124486

My point was that you don't have to be obese to be strong.

>>124479

It's not impossible to bulk up without extra supplements, eat a lot of eggs and rice, plus whatever meat is on sale. If you do that consistently you will get huge.

>>124497

Research conjugate method training for swat, military, and martial artists

>>124497

Are you Russian?

What MOS are you trying to get, like what do you want to do in the military? I actually want to be special forces myself. I figure if I'm able, I'm willing. I've seen that pic before. Idk how much of that info I would prepare for as opposed to letting the forces actually prepare you though. I want to tell you what you need, but I don't know for sure exactly since I'm not in. But I do know you need muscular and cardio endurance, not just strength and speed. You gotta be smart to some degree, basic knowledge of the real world and academics. And you can't be insane, or loaded on medicine or bound to snap a previous surgery- you know, logical things you would expect.

Honestly, go talk to a recruiter (and definitely try /k/). I'm surprised the first anon didn't actually say this. They'll ask you some questions that will prepare you for whether or not you may or may not be accepted. Medical history, drug use history, surgery, psychological history, family history maybe. Recruiters are actually given college credits under communication/psychological-based skills for spending so much time working with men and women of different ages, determining for sure whether or not they're suitable for the military, and I guess people tend to delve into their personal matters. People will tell you that all they care about is meeting their quota, and idk how much of that is true, maybe in larger cities. The last recruiter I spoke to had set up workout days for prospective recruits to get together and go jogging/lift and ask some questions each exercise break, and we had once helped out at the local soup kitchen. It's always different I guess.

>The one time I almost got to go jogging with the group (couldn't because of time) the Army recruiter came outside while the Marine recruiter was inside and tried giving all the kids some water bottles or something. So, you know.

>>124500

thx

>>124500

Is it the West Side Barbell method?

>>124508

>We get fucking psychologists that do the screening.

Does that mean your screening is supposed to be more complex, or strenuous? I can't tell if you mean that in a bad way or a good way. Doesn't seem that bad to me I guess, depending on the circumstances perhaps.

If I posted a picture of my body would any of you guys be able to tell me what should i do? I'm an alcoholic, meaning I can't work right without some alcohol in me but I'm not fat either, I'm at 137. I fast a lot as well, skip breakfast and go on to eat maybe one or twice a day depending the food that's available or how hungover i am. I just need to be pointed in the right direction, like should i try to gain some weight before i start my training or just go as I am?

>>124514

What are you trying to look like? Or what are you trying to be able to do? Run for long distances, lift heavy shit, look good in the mirror, feel better about yourself?

You can post a picture, and we can tell you what we think you should do, but it's ultimately up to you. Even if you get into the lifestyle that helps you meet your goals and you find it's not what you want you can just turn around and try something else once you at least get into the swing of things.

I'm personally down for seeing what you look like though. And if you're an alcoholic you should try drinking moonshine, 95% abv. Not that flavored, 40% apple pie garbage. Get you some Everclear and see if you think you can handle really being an alcoholic or if you just like drinking lite beer or cheap spirits for the appeal. Bonus points if your moonshine actually comes in a mason jar from someone deep in the mountains and can still be used as fuel.

>>124518

When I say I'm an alcoholic I mean, I drink whatever is available, at times it comes to the point where water wont even enter my system and just puke it out but some whiskey fixes that. Also, I want to remain skinny but with some muscle definition, I can do manual labor with ease but some dude told me I had the physic or the framework to start building muscle mass, my problem is that I have been in imageboards for so long that wojack took completely over me and now lack any drive at all.

>>124497

This is a good rule of thumb. I remember, if I recall based on acquaintances that the recces (back in the day) had to run the 2.4 in under 9 minutes in order to make the cut. Thanks for the picture anon.

>>124490

True :-) I can't wait for that day. It's going to be a long road but reading that makes me feel happy.

>>124513

Incoming shitpost. Hold fast.

>>124514

Do it. OP here and i'm 3 litres of redwine and about 2.1 litres of beer down. So in the same boat. Also agree with you, it's like you need it to function and then weekends are just a bender and a blur. My best advice is to try and slack off the drink. What do you drink though? Hard liquor? I try to cut down on week nights. Maybe no more than x. which never works. It's like owning a gun and being mentally unstable. Do you have anybody in your life that can limit it? I turn into a monster, get the shakes, even DT's are a scary prospect if you're trying to quit but it's worth it and never too late man. Let's ride this wave out together man. What can I call you? Call me "Al" for now - not my name obs but vid will give you some company. Perhaps we'll meet again and we can make it to the end and end up victorious! Godspeed.

>>124513

Always, fuck the greedy kikes. I actually do have a flash drive which can play music, I just need a battery. I'm not THAT poor i'm just placid and scrape by if that makes sense. I close my eyes and hum the music in my mind or just think of how fucked up I am because of the bad things I have done and become and try to kick it all out by pushing myself as hard as possible. I don't have money to spend on material things other than petrol (madmax.jpg) and food (admittedly on booze and cigarettes too I guess) which is usually easy stuff to make because I commute 4 hours a day and get home late. The lady also works odd shifts in the hospitality industry so it's pretty much old school. Thanks for the condolences. The woman (granny but she raised me as a kid. Long distance relationship, in and out of my life) I spoke of raised me, I found her on the couch and was alone. I held her hand and she was so cold. It wasn't her. I have that image in my mind and I try to remove myself from it. That was a dead person, not her. I've seen so many dead people (oversharing here but i'm white south african, english speaking boer) in my life… and lots of gore, but it's not the same when it's one of your own if that makes sense. and drunkposted about it in /b/ a few days ago I think. I lol'd at the image because I actually look like that picture, except my moustache is not as dark, don't have mouse ears and my eyes are grey/blue. fucking ADD'ing on you. sorry. I'm fucked, going to go for a cig and think about what it is I need to tell you, i'll come back and keep on typing. Brother, anon… you have no idea what you mean to me right now… In September it will be a year and I am struggling to let go. fuuuck. Anyways… I just wanted to let you know anon, that you shouldn't do what you said you would. Stay close to your loved ones because regret always comes too late. Family is a blessing, no matter how fucked up or dysfunctional your life is. I've been abused as a child and was in and out of various areas/ sent around if you know what I mean and seen some heavy shit. Blood isn't always thicker than water but do not purposefully disengage from those who wish to love you or love you indeed. Do not be the heartbreaker to family members. It's painful. I actually have a brother who disowned me because he married into a good family and whatnot and they're too good for us. What army are you joining and why? I'm 27 now, feel like it's too late but it was a dream of mine. Nowadays you'll end up as a pawn for shlomo, fuckit, even the FFL is pushing shit for the NWO if you're keeping track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PxkJzcTHUU

Got a lot of surplus and even a set of stolen German army radios, a fapla cap from whomever it once belonged to and some beautiful NATO pants, some flecktarn and old school Nutria. No gun because at 14 I had put the revolver to my head twice and let's be frank. I was a big fat pussy for not pulling the trigger but it's a long story and I lose my cool in traffic. You kill a nog and you go to jail, all the cops are corrupt and the fucking law sides with the crims in this country. However, a man without a gun is a dead man so looking but don't have the $$$ to buy just yet. Still looking to get myself a left handed R5 or even a coveted R1, AKA FN-FAL . I'm okay now and i'm good. You should get good as well… Sadly, the new generation of men will never understand what it was to fight, only a few and sadly, I guess I missed the boat. But I hope that you're joining whatever army for opportunities rather than being a pawn for the jews. I feel for you anon. Do not be afraid. I do not want to offend you and i'm not a JW or religious freak. I think the church is dead. But I honestly do believe in Jesus Christ and I pray to him. You see, you have a flesh man and a spirit man. If you feed the flesh, you become a slave to sin like me, but if you feed your spirit man, and you accept Jesus Christ into your life… You're going to start seeing changes. It's not going to get easier, if it does, it might be… IDK, I don't want to lead you astray but I would recommend you read a bible or just contemplate, find a quiet spot and pray to Jesus and ask him to enter your life. Look, i'm the last person to preach, but in tears and brokenness. His grace knows no bounds and that doesn't give me the license to continue my degeneracy, but the still small voice inside of me is aware, and loving and caring. And that loneliness you speak of? You will never walk alone ever again. You may think i'm crazy, but trust me on this anon. We do not give our Father the credit He deserves. Call me a freak or what not but I look to the mountains and I find my strength. (Look up the reference).

When are you headed out to the military? Also, here's some pirate music for you.

>>124513

Also, watch the link that I attached, there are two YT vids. The video which is not embedded. Well it fucking brings tears to my eyes because shit fucks you up and even though I was never involved, I want you to understand the implications of joining a group that will probably be the biggest blessing and curse you'll ever experience. I envy you but am concerned for you at the same time if you wish to see combat. I cannot really teach you anything as I was never in the military but hostels, boys schools, cold mornings and lots fucked up conditioning happened, as well as your everyday violence that you see on a weekly basis, etc. It's just that… I want you to be at your max potential. NEVER SETTLE FOR SECOND BEST.

All my love to you brother! Thank you for being so kind and generous. For taking the time to read all my bullshit and for being such an awesome guy. Fuckit. Imagine everybody in this thread were in one room right now and we could all be sharing a beer over a fire with some good music and lots of laughter. The thought alone makes me smile and I just wanted to thank you for making my day. Godspeed bud. Take care of yourself. I'll check in tomorrow or later in the week. dependent on my internet connection and my energy levels.

>>124488

You're completely right about that, but it wasn't what OP had said.

>>124529

What I meant was that if one pictures the statue of David done my Michelangelo, it is said to be the epitome of human perfection, at least the statue is most accurate to that of the male human form, it seems to be the result of pure perfection and balance. His entire body is in proportion and he is what would be considered "normal" I suppose. Bearing in mind that I don't know much about what is "normal" but it would seem that, that is the ideal body shape. Most of us aren't nearly there, or are out of proportion in one way or another. Be it through enhancements or bad lifestyles. It's from one extreme to another, or in-between.

>>124553

Swimming or rowing.

>>124555 (Checked)

As in rowing machine?

>>124556

Yes.

>>124558

A serving of lamb's blood has 70 calories and 17g of protein. It's time to go vampire-mode.

>>124089

What's a good creatine brand?

>>124532

>Getting into a PMC

>Without military experience

Just changed my routine to mornings instead of evenings starting this week. Realized I got done two hours before work.

A) Should I risk getting up later/potentially not having enough time for workout, or just have an hour and a half before I clock in for work?

B) I go back in the evenings to swim laps. This involves taking a second shower which will ultimately ruin my skin (have to take a morning shower because I have to smell clean at my job, have to take an evening shower because can't fall asleep covered in Chlorine). I'm partially fixing this by taking cold showers in the mornings, but is there anything else I can do? I gave vitamin E cream for stretch marks, but I can start getting coconut cream instead or something?

>>124593

Just get some Neutrogena for your skin.

>>124081

As a chemical engineer I find this entire rant hilarious.

>>124558

>how am I supposed to eat this much?

Protein powder you scrub. Go to Costco and get the 6lbs bag of Cytosport Whey powder it's cheap compared to other 6lbs bags or tubs…the taste is okay, it's mixed Isolate and Concentrated.

It's low in fat and almost no carbs with 130 calories for 27 grams of Protein for one scoop.

Drink it at least two times a day. Because it's so low in fat you can add half and half to it if you want. Also I use Coconut Oil when I need more fat/calories that day.

Eggs and Sausage/Bacon every morning. Use egg whites, then add ~1 oz (less is better) of cheese to the mix, this gives some more calcium, fat and protein. This nets 40g of protein just for breakfast. Add in the two shakes and you're already at 94g. I usually do a protein bar after for another 20g but you could even do a third shake.

As for dinner 8-12oz, 12oz of Skinless Chicken thighs I prefer broiled, they're tasty af. That's 60g. When I'm eating what I should I get >200g of protein. If you start eating like this you need to keep exercising or your gains will turn into fat gains while you sit at your computer shitposting on 8ch

/fit/ I have shit posture especially when sitting at the computer. I tend to hunch over and kinda crunch down. How do I unfuck myself?

>>124558

Nigga I eat 280g of protein and sometimes I'm still hungry you can figure a way to eat it all

I keep getting really, really tired a few minutes after I start working out. I'm talking eyes lidded, can't focus, spaced out on sensation, time is distorted, the-last-5-minutes-before-you-fall-asleep kind of mental clocking out. My whole body gets sore, stiff, and almost tender. It's awful. Coffee only makes it worse unless I drink a fuckload of it, at which point I'm wired but not necessarily in a helpful way.

What could be going on here? It seems to happen even when I sleep and eat sufficiently.

Addendum: Suggestions for stimulants that aren't acidic? I'd just live on coffee, but I've got multiple recurring ulcers that make it impossible to do anything if I aggravate them.

>>124664

Sleep a lot more, I like grizzly wintergreen as a non caffeine preworkout.

>>124638

Thanks friend. One more thing. If I have a 3 day per week routine, do I need to eat BIG every day, or can I relax and eat maintenance on the weekends where I'm resting for some consecutive days?

>>124588

Sorry bruv, I was pissed.

>>124759

>IDK why, it's what an optometrist told me once.

Your optometrist knows his shit.

So I bought a pullup bar, and Im digging the experience. It showcases hammergrip pull ups, chin ups, and pull ups, in order from easiest to most difficult. Are these exercises something I am looking to progress through? Or should I be doing some kind of routine where I do all three for different reasons?

>>124774

I'm fairly certain that the different grips are fairly arbitrary. Chin ups will work the biceps slightly, but will work the lats the same as a pullup. Just make sure you're doing them right.

I guess this is the new QTDDTOT? I want to get back into bag work. The problem is, I have nowhere to hang a bag where it would be appropriate to do so. I would like to be able to roundhouse the sandbag, but when looking at bags with stands it looks like I would break my foot if I tried kicking them. What do?

>>124774

See >>123147

>catalog says 96 posts

>displays 72 for me

Test.

>>124794

they are the same

>>124813

Same thing has been happening on and off to me too.

>>124800

Is that really a good idea? JUST doing pull ups? It also didn't address the different grip types.

>>124835

You won't get huge but you will get strong. Pull ups are one of the best upper body compound movements.

Wide grip is the hardest and works the lats the most. Chin ups are the easiest and work the arms more. Neutral is kind of inbetween.

I like to start with wide grip, then neutral, then chin up. Like doing drop sets.

If you have some dumbbells you can put one between your legs to increase the difficulty.

>>124835

I do the progression in addition to my weight lifting routine. It's a good thing to do in your spare time, like when you wake up each morning or something.

>>124837

Oh man, I am mirin that guy. Ill give that progression a try, seems like a good idea. You and >>124840 seem to be in agreement.

Should make for a difficult routine, I like it.

So anons I managed to hurt myself fucking bad last year, long story short what I thought were just aches and deep tissue bruising (as suggested by shitty ass doctor at oncall) turns out I fucking fractured a vertebrae and while it healed it healed I am destined to live with shooting sciatica pain for the rest of my life with a risk of it developing into eventual arthritis.

Now the point of my pity post is that I'm told I can do a lot for my condition if I were to strengthen my core muscles. I've been dedicating some time every morning for planks every morning as long as I have time before work, which is mostly sedentary which I am certain is not helping me, what should I do to supplement this process? I am the eternal fag who is afraid to go to a gym so if there is something I can do on my own (even if I need to purchase equipment to a price within reason) I would be eternally thankful to you guys.

>>124951

If you can get yourself a bar, some plates, and a landmine, there are a ton of really hard core workouts to do with it.

What is the best women's self defense? I'm a girl btw ;). But seriously sometimes I worry about my sister. I've never met anyone who was assaulted and she does carry pepper spray. The what if still bugs me.

>>124954

Basic firearms safety training, a CCW, and a glock or hipoint. Any martial art that teaches escaping grapples goes good with it if you need to.

>>124955

We live in Commiefornia so the notion of defending your life with a firearm is illegal. Those bullets could hurt someone! Especially your attacker! I do have limited experience with sambo but I doubt that would help.

>>124954

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is really useful for women because it equalizes the fight for somebody who is shorter, lighter, and more flexible, and it teaches you how to handle being pinned on the ground under a larger opponent. Kickboxing styles like Muay Thai are pretty great for fighting, but as a woman the odds of the fight never going to the ground are pretty slim. She would also do well to carry a knife (if a gun doesn't work logistically) because most people turn around just at the sight of one. Check your local area (especially universities) for women's self defense classes, they are commonly free and tend to take place around when school semesters begin.

>>124954

>What is the best women's self defense?

Getting the fuck out of Commiefornia and carrying a handgun. Pepper sprays & knives are still ok tho if pepper spray is as powerful as possible (literally bear spray) and a knife has an ergonomic handle (Ontario Rat 1 for example).

>>124958

Martial arts are a waste of time for women. You've probably never wrestled them and cannot imagine how incredibly weak they are. For example when I was a 17 yo DYEL faggot I won in armwrestling to a 5'11" 160 lbs grill despite I do suck in it and was using only my pinky against her hand. I'm not kidding you man, furthermore - she couldn't defeat me even using her two fucking hands against the pinky.

>>124959

I have wrestled women and it is easy when they only have one or two years of experience, but the ones who have been practicing for 4+ years can handle themselves.

>>124971

I use polyurethane versions at my gym for farmer walks/shrugs. It's good for replacing a dumbbell or hex bar, but honestly quite shit for most compound lifts after a few years into lifting.

>>124992

It's water weight.

I typically pick up about 7-10lbs in water weight when I start back up lifting because of creatine/water weight. Right now I'm about 222-226ish, but after creatine and lifting my weight is closer to 234 (yeh I'm a fatass, working on it).

>>124993

Thanks. Sounds like they'll do for replacing my outdated dumbbells.

Hey /fit/, can you help me understand what the fuck this guy is doing?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGX1mW1QW1_/?taken-by=the.real.eric_bugenhagen

Thanks in advance

>>125015

Eric Bugenhagen's training consists of random lifts that no one does anymore for the sake of being the best at shit no one will contest this with. This is combined with a lot of screaming and pseudo motivational bullshit for sponsorships amongst the "hardcore" training crowd.

I've started boxing about 1 month ago, and I've been going 4 times a week for 1 hour sessions. Because i had to squeeze it in with my work schedule, iys been cutting into my gym time. The fact that its also really tiring and cardio intensive has also affected my overal performance in the gym and i feel like I'm losimg gains. Is there a specific routine that i should follow that will maximize the gains in both the gym and in boxing? I was thinking like going to the gym in between my boxing days, but what do you guys think?

>>125020

Phoneposting is shite. Sausage fingers too big

>>125003

Ah cool. No reason to be scared then.

Redpill me on low-sodium water.

I'm a beginner and pretty weak. When doing bench presses, my left arm is weaker than the right. How should I fix this? I've been thinking about dumbbell presses or smith machine bench press

>>125033

You need lots of sodium if you lift weights. Just drink regular water.

>>125095

That sort of imbalance will fix itself over time, just continue to do regular bench presses.

>>125095

Masturbate less.

>>125015

Wow that looks fantastically stupid.

>>125095

Focus on pushing the left arm up first. You'll know it worked if the bar racks in the same spot it started.

>>125149

Depends on what it takes to clean it all up

I'm assuming people who use chalk don't bring it into a public gym

>>125163

>I'm assuming people who use chalk don't bring it into a public gym

They do around here.

I leech the leftover chalk on the bar for deadlifts after the oly lifters come through.

I regret nothing.

>>125163

Mine allows it. They just expect you to not make a mess. As in, don't clap with your hands covered in chalk.

If I was prepping, hypothetically, what would be the best protein to store away? Beans? Beef Jerky is a thing, but its expensive for what you get. Can protein powder be stored long term somehow?

What is /fit/'s take on a kettle weight? I have not very much open room in my current living condition so I feel like it's idea since my workout room is a small room with two mats on the ground.

Is there any advantage to them over a dumbell of similar weight? I was thinking about mainly using the kettle to work goblet squats into my morning routine.

>>125195

If you're prepping, worry about carbs and nutrition. You aren't gonna have time to worry about gains in the apocalypse. Plus most proteins don't keep.

Jerky is dirt cheap if you make it yourself by the way, anon.

>>125196

Kettleballs are great for shoulders and upper body strength. They're a shit for lower body strength though- just use a barbell or dumbbell.

>>125232

>I feel exhausted and starting to lose strength at the gym, lately I'm even worried with having some overtrain injury

Just working a manual job while cutting calories made me feel like I was about to hit the wall of fatigue when I went about it mindlessly. I also stopped losing weight/waistline, I'd assume that is normal because the body will adapt to a lower calory intake.

I started paying more attention to what I eat to make sure I get the nutritions I need. I can't tell if this will work for anyone else but to make it into a list

>Get enough rest and sleep, at least 1 full hour off just sitting down doing nothing in the evening, no video games or music etc, you need to rest your mind as well.

>Sleep at minimum 7-8 hours.

>ABCDE vitamin daily.

>Someone suggested orange juice with meals even if you go low carb

>milk instead of energy drinks

Eating what I think I need I ended up with almost no carbs some days, at first this would make me feel really tired but I recently realized I had done this and didn't even notice so it's probably a matter of adaption. This may also be why you're starting to feel ill, you're going too hard out all at once with a diet and schedule you're not intending to keep up in the long run. Make it into something you can keep doing, this will also ease your mental strain from trying to keep the diet and your rest may be more effective.

Is there any difference between dumbells and barbells? I am thinking of buying a couple of dumbells for home workouts.

>>124497

Anyone got the full version of that?

>>125268

I'm getting enough nutrients, and I keep track of what I eat,

to give you an idea, up until now I'm maintaining a 2000kcal daily routine, and somehow I haven't even lost weight yet

I'm a 168cm manlet, but even then this daily intake of calorie shouldn't be enough for me

I'm going to try cutting it down even further now and getting lighter on the exercises

so to give you an idea that I eat enough, example of my daily meals:

> main dish lunch, pork and beans, accompanied by carrots/cauliflower and some potatoes crips

> morning shake: banana, protein powder, coffee, creatine (and other sups if need be)

> afternoon: whole bread with lots of cheese, this is basically the high fat meal, but still good enough

> dinner dish: some slow cooked stew beef meal, along with vegetables

> and even then I still drink a lot of milk with coffee, home made juices and even soda if I feel like it

overall with this meal plan I can take up to 100~140g of protein easily, making up the of the calories between fat and carbs

I'm the faggot pushing the cooking general forward, if you want to learn more

and to be fair, I'm feeling okay most of the time, it was just post workout that I feel so spent indeed,

>>125442

>>125268

just after writing the comment above I stumbled upon a video that pretty much nails on why I'm having bad results…

< rest days vs active days

so this can really be the drastic difference here, since a workout + cardio can sum up easily 200~400kcal

so even though I'm doing 4 times a week, I may be under eating during workout days but compensating during rest days

at the end of the day kind of equalizing and not really showing much results,

this may be why I'm tired still but not loosing, gonna adjust for this factor and see how it pans out

>>125467

My calculation is something like

>work + exercise day, burn 2700 calories, eat 2000 - 2200

>workday with rest, burn around 2400, eat same as workout day

>weekend, no work or exercise, eat the same amount I burn, around 1600

I don't eat a lot of meat, but more of cottage cheese, mozzarella and eggs.

Is it normal to have a DL higher than your squat if (for the same amount of reps)?

i'm at about 280x6 for DL and 255x6 for squat and i'm wondering if this is an imbalance

>>125484

That's expected and normal.

>>125563

In a venn diagram of "aesthetic" and "fit" I would put cuteboys in "aesthetic," Zyzz in both, and Scott Mendelson in "fit."

>>125661

I a venn diagram I would put you in an oven and fire up the gas button.

>>125662

1/10. Insults don't suit you, just go back to yodeling.

I've been having oatmeal porridge recently. Some rolled oats, milk, some water and it's all boiled and stirred. My problem is the fact that I know sugar is unhealthy but is honey unhealthy too? With my 120g of oats, 900ml of milk and 300ml of water, I'm adding 3 tablespoons (60~70g) of honey. I calculate the whole thing comes to about 1200 calories. Is honey an okay sweetener or is it time to start eating these foods without sweetener?

How the fuck do i squat without middle back pain? I've watched all kinds of videos on yt already, and none of them has helped me.

I'm struggling with diddlys and rows top, bicho benching and OHP is just fine

>>125781

>and rows too…

>but bench…

Fixd. Fuckin Google keyboard.

Hey /fit/

I'm 50Ibs overweight, in a situation in which I can't go out to a gym or jog, I don't have any understanding of exercise terms or diet and I couldn't afford my own equipment or decent food if I could.

What exercises can I do in my apartment so that I can lose weight with just some 10Ibs wieghts, or am I fucked?

>>125799

You won't lose weight from exercise unless you start walking 10 km daily or something. Change your diet to 1200 calories a day and do some sit ups, get a rubber band and check youtube for instructions.

Once you're at normal weight and a different situation you can think about the next step.

>>125735

Honey should be fine, as long as you don't use too much.

>>125781

I've literally never heard of mid back pain during squats. I'd say it's a posture issue that you're making worse with bad form. In which case you might wanna go back to goblet squats, body weight squats etc until you learn to do it properly.

>>125296

Somebody is gonna correct me again but I'd say either is fine. It depends on what you aim to do. If you like mostly power lifting maybe barbell. But in most cases dumbbells are the beginner choice because they're more versatile for upper body.

Dumbbells are cheaper at first but barbells and weights might be cheaper in the long run. Disclaimer though I'm a normal gym going basic bitch.

>>125927

1 or 2 a week won't hurt you that bad until you're like 70. Just don't let it become 1 or 2 a day.

>>125781

Sounds like posture. You're arching your back too much. Consider buying one of those stupid "waist trimmer" belts. They'll force you to use proper posture during the exercise much like a weight belt would, but at a much cheaper price.

Is there such a thing as warmups for pullups? Does it even matter?

>>126011

I do all my lifting on the week days and I tend to post at work on break or during cardio to keep my mind occupied. I got degenerate shit to do on the weekends like drinking, fapping, and learning how to code.

Does anyone have a copy of the Simple Science Fitness pdf? I downloaded it a while ago but can't find it now. ss.fitness has gone fully to shit and doesn't have the info it used to without paying.

>>124484

He's so hot, oh my god.

>>126014

https://web.archive.org/web/20170225183514/https://ss.fitness

>>124081

>short time lurker

that's your first mistake faggot

>>126016

Thanks man, I really should have been able to figure that out on my own but I'm retarded.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/wa/a/36701746/body-builder-meegan-heffords-death-blamed-on-protein-shakes/#page1

What is up with this bullshit? Is the media trying to become a gains goblin?

>>126062

Probably. Think about how many people drink protein shakes excessively, and this is the one guy we've heard about. The shakes could have contributed to his death, but it was his body that couldn't handle them. The rest of us are fine.

>>125926

>>125935

I'm doing front squats now. And they feel just fine. No back pressure, no middle-back pain, and also had dat glorious glutes soreness. The only issue now is that I'm choking myself, but I read that it can be fixed using clean grip.

I'll be doing sumo diddlys too, but I'm afraid it'll cause some kind of impact on my gains from the SL routine.

>>126062

>>126064

it specifically states that she had a problem processing protein and most people should not worry about that

its just a bait because lot of people use it excessively too

I saved the pic at the time too

Got a couple questions, hope you guys can help.

How much of a benefit is there to running with a weighted vest?

Reading into mercury poison from tuna, are there any other canned fish like that (or salmon) i can eat with fewer risks?

Are there reliable ways to detox heavy metals? I've read that adequate selenium reduces mercury in your blood, but may concentrate it in the brain.

>>126368

>How much of a benefit is there to running with a weighted vest?

You destroy your knees faster

>Reading into mercury poison from tuna, are there any other canned fish like that (or salmon) i can eat with fewer risks?

Video related

>>126368

Like what the other anon said, you'll destroy your joints. You'd have to just walk with it on, squat 315 for 315 reps, run a 2:30:00 marathon every month, practice kickboxing or similar on the heavy bag until you're near Bruce Lee levels before you can put a 80 lb weight vest on and call it training.

If you have some sort of secret rejuvenation healing technique or medicine that heals the body then ignore my warning.

>>126195

You are drinking too fast.

Long story short: I fapped too much, testlevel dropped too low, almost killed myself as well. Now I cut back the master baiting and started cycling. What else can I do to increase testosterone production in my body?

How can I get myself into the mindset to actually get off my arse and do something?

I keep telling myself "I'm gonna do exersise today" but then end up just sitting on my arse watching youtube or binge watching shows doing nothing and barely eating so i end up having no energy.

I dont wanna be lazy.

How do I start getting fit? I'm tired of being a skinny fat but no matter what I try it seems like I can't make any progress.

>>126561

Aside from the basic motivation necessary to keep going when you want to be impatient about your gains, it's probably your diet and sleep. Count all of your calories in a day from morning to evening. It should be somewhere between 3,000 and 7,000. And make sure to go to sleep before midnight as often as possible. Aside from that, pick one routine that emphasizes the compound lifts (squat, deadlift, bench press, overhead press, row, pull-up, dip) and stick with it for at least 4 months before you change anything. Progressive overload is when you keep increasing the weight of your lifts, and it's very important with the compound stuff. As soon as you can hit every rep at a given weight, go up the next time and stay at the new weight until you can hit every rep, then continue repeating this process.

>>125296

Personally, I find using dumbbells for squats suck.

>>126573

I get 8 hours of sleep every night. In to bed at 10:00, usually wake up on my own close enough to 6:00.

Typically I eat just over 3000 calories, my diet consists almost exclusively of oatmeal, whole milk, and eggs because of my current living arrangement.

What kind of repetition format is best ie- how many sets and how many reps per set? Also are bodyweight or tool-less exercises able to substitute for anything? My access to proper gym equipment has a spotty record.

>>126593

>I am aware that junk food is bad, I'm not American so I don't chow down kgs of McDonalds but is a random soda with 10g of sugar in it every other day that bad?

Most regular cans of soda have at least 39g of (shit)sugar. You shouldn't drink soda every day, it's empty calories with zero nutrition value that you only drink because you have an addiction.

>If I for example start just exercising with push ups for say one hour a day while eating fairly healthy aside from random junk food here and there, will I see results or will I become a lardass even with the exercise?

An hour of doing pushups is insane and not going to help. You need multiple compound lifts at least 3 days a week if you want stay /fit/. Try doing exercises that simulate what you did as a farmhand

>>126597

>Most regular cans of soda have at least 39g of (shit)sugar.

The cans I drink contain exactly 10g each, I do alternate between those cans and 100% juices though, so I don't saturate myself with sugar.

>it's empty calories with zero nutrition value that you only drink because you have an addiction.

That is absolutely true, hence why I am asking.

I tried before to go cold turkey or tone it down a notch… but christ, I end up turning lethargic and depressed without it.

I got a sweet tooth sadly and since I'm italian bread and pasta are basically 70% of the shit I eat.

>You need multiple compound lifts at least 3 days a week if you want stay /fit/. Try doing exercises that simulate what you did as a farmhand

Easier said than done, my house is absolutely small and I worked with horses, mostly cleaning then, shovelling shit and carrying their meals.

I've been trying to get a manual job, figured that having a heavy job that requires physical strength is the easiest way to get buff, however there are none, only stuff at the local library.

I do have a couple of things, namely some fairly heavy weights and some sandbag weights you apply to wrist and ankles but aside from that I'm unsure what I can do to regain my shine.

>>126592

You could do isometrics and gymnastics progressions, but free weights are still your best bet. I've been doing 5x5 for compound lifts and 3x10 for the auxiliary ones and it's working fine for me. Try being more consistent with your lifting for a month.

Protein shakes, targeted diets by the gram, all these terms I don't know, is there some kind of guide for lardasses on how to get started with getting fit that doesn't require weeks of reading? I'm not asking for an in-depth program, just a start.

>>126606

https://web.archive.org/web/20170225183514/https://ss.fitness

>>126600

>The main problem with drinking soda and juices frequently is that you end up substituting that for water

Yeah yeah, that's a fault of mine too, guess I'll need to ration out my sweet tooth more.

>If you don't have the space for more equipment consider getting a gym membership

Guess there ain't a way around it.

Speaking of gyms, should I trust what the fitness tutors tell them or should I stick with the guides on /fit/?

Much like gym highschool teachers, I don't feel like they get what I want, I always end up doing several different exercises and machines that are all unrelated to each other.

Like the running, doing weights with arms and legs, squatting and push-ups or stretching, then the bicycle thing and whatnot.

Can you get hemmeroids from really deep squats? Like I was lifting yesterday and wanted to see if I could actually get ass on ground. I did it but when I tried to stand again I got about a foot up before I lost my balance and landed right on my brown eye. I wasn't going for a personal record or anything but it still hurt like a motherfucker. Anyways today my asshole was itching and burning. When I took a shit my booty felt all weird and knobby through the TP. I went online and it said I had hemmeroids. Is this from the squats or is there another reason?

Also anyone who has had them before how do I get rid of the burning itch and blood on TP.

On July 12th i removed my gallbladder(thanks, obesity), and the doctor told me to rest and lift nothing for at least 45 days. I'll return to my job in 5 days, which requires me to carry a few Tons/day.

The question: it's too soon to do heavy exercise? Some people say that for a full recovery you need 60 days/90 days, and to make it worst they keep spooping me with hernia stories.

Blogpost: i'm feeling pretty down, i made out of obesity(overweight now) mostly thanks to calisthenics. Two weeks before the surgery i finally achieved a great hanging leg raise form, and was very close to doing one-hand pushups. Exercising was my only pleasure left, i can't stand this weakness feeling anymore.

>>126702

Stay off /jp/, fixiebike

Fit Im reading everwhere that dips are awful for my shoulders but they feel like Im reallh working the muscles in my triceps and chest. Is it pseudo science or do they do good? Also its the same.as like a chin up or pull right?

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I was running a little short on calories today so I ate something on the neighbourhood of 2000 kcal post workout in whole milk, oats, apple and broccoli. I was bloated like I was 3 months pregnant. I promptly laid down and had the best nap of my entire life, messy wet dream included, and the bloating was mostly gone afterwards.

Is this the way to make it, /fit/? Should I do this more often?

Talked to a coach to get a form check. He said squats are shit and only good for making your ass big. I think he's an old idiot. He also said I should do crunches for core.

Is this the kind of shit young /fit/izens have to deal with? He was basically telling me to do 20+ reps instead of the 5 reps I have been doing for strength.

>>126760

>low calories

>protein bars

Nuh uh. They always fill protein bars with plenty of sugar for the normalshits who want to pretend to be fit.

>>126770

>20+ reps

Of squats or situps? If you're doing sets of 20 and squatting heavy you're booking a one-way ticket to snap city

I recently applied for a job that would have me standing and walking for 8 hours a day. Is there anything I can do to prepare for that /fit/ wise? I get that I need good shoes and posture.

Also am I going to have to ramp up my calories/day since I am going to have all that extra walking burning calories? I dont want to lose mah gainz.

What kind of body type is GOMAD meant for? Is it ideal for a 5'11" 125lb skelly such as myself? Is it known to produce stretch marks or no?

>>126402

Thanks a lot anon, that seems to have helped.

>>126776

You are the target bodytype for gomad, but at your size I would just try a half gallon and see how far it takes you.

Ancient strongmen are a meme. Before modern bodybuilding and powerlifting, barely anyone actually knew how to lift and eat right. What you look up to from the circus days were the 1% who trained right but couldn't explain why any of it worked. Your average fitness buff would have been malnourished and had a hard time just getting 150lbs overhead, at least until Mark Berry and Joseph Hise brought squats and milk addiction onto the scene.

Protein shakes are just a convenient powdered food. Practically, they're only supplying something like 15-30 grams of daily protein to their users. Ancient athletes would have just consumed an obscene amount of meat and dairy that your average peasant couldn't afford.

>>126780

Ancient strongmen weren't a meme, you are right however in saying that the ancient athletes consumed a lot of meat and dairy.

I know that because it was a very known fact here in Italy that meat, milk and other "rich people's food" were fundamental in keeping a strong body.

People, at least down here, knew how to eat and keep healthy, however not everyone could afford it: onions and stale bread isn't a meal that packs much in terms of proteins.

>>126775

If the floor is concrete, make sure you get some really good shock absorbtion insoles or you'll get overstrained calves. Also stretch daily when getting home and expect to have hurting feet for a few weeks before you get used to it even if you do the transition perfectly.

Take the weekend off from any leg exercises to get proper recovery, squats will make it worse.

I went from neet to working in a grocery store and experienced all of this, took a few months before I could handle it right.

The calory calculation I used is

>60 cal/hour for doing nothing

>250 cal/hour when working

so if you want to stay even add 190 calories for every hour of active work. Don't compensate with sweetened drinks, if you drink milk during the day and add something like creme fraiche to your meals you can easily get there with no excessive amount. For example

>100grams of creme fraiche is 323 calories

and you'll easily at 200g with a meal so that's 646 cals.

>milk 50 cal/100ml so that's 500 in 1 liter

>add one donut and you've already made up for it

>>126789

Thanks for the cal breakdown. Thats a lot simpler than what I was considering adding to my daily diet. Skipping leg exercises will be weird, but Id rather slow down progress than hurt myself.

>>126799

> How do I regain hair lost from masturbation?

what are you even doing jack?

>>126806

Imagine that. People that work very hard for something they care deeply about are ideologically opposed to the concept of redustributing the fruit of their labor to people that want to do drugs and burn businesses down.

Really makes you think.

>>126806

Can confirm, my gym bros have always been right-wing assholes because I don't go to the gym with liberal pussies.

>>126816

I dod once but they kept pressing the lunk alarm.

>>126817

>biotin

> too much delta-GmbH-6 oils

> not enough Jonquie-chu sparkle fungus

what the fuck are you on about?

masturbation doesn't leave you bald, I jack off constantly and have no issues

>>126829

Come to think of it I have never seen a bald monkey except for those ones tgey shave for testing purposes.

>>126856

I'm sorry man. My cat I've owned for 10 years died shortly after hurricane Harvey. I wasn't prepared at all. It's been three weeks now and I'm still brooding.

But don't let that get in the way of your gym. Wherever you catbro is, you won't help yourself by not working out.

But if you're really sad, then set an amount of time off from the gym, but make sure you go at the time you've planned.