/fit/ - Fitness, Health, and Feels★

have you ever seen someone like this?:

>hey yea like I just stopped eating eggs and meat and all that

>totally cut out all the fish and milk and chicken too!

>"so anon what do you eat now?"

>I just drink soda and eat chips and crackers and-

>"but anon that's not healthy"

>What are you talking about? I had three plant only (no milk) doughnuts a minute ago with no milk or meat!

>see! no animal products

This is a dangerously unhealthy assumption that many people make when they believe they are switching to being fully plant based. These people are what I like to call "junkfood-snackatarians"

the diet of the junkfood-snackatarian rarely ever contains any actual fruits, herbs, or vegetables and is often severely lacking in any actual nutrients, vitamins, or minerals.

Their diet's are often 100% highly refined, heavily processed junk-snack foods like chips and soda or white bread and zero calorie artificial sweetener saturated "flavor waters".

Don't make the same mistake as them!

>always try to find everything usda organic. non-gmo is getting there, but doesn't guarantee they didn't use pesticides anyway, just that the food has not been genetically modified.

>it's also important to turn the container around on every single thing you buy and actually read the ingredients. not only just the nutrition facts, but also the ACTUAL ingredient list.

>no animal products meat/fish/milk/honey/chicken/eggs/cheese/anything from any animal. after doing the research you will discover that these foods are incredibly unhealthy. nutritionfacts.org channel on youtube (try to see if he also uploaded his videos to another website other than shittube)

>supplement with B12 (methylcobalamin, NOT cyanocobalamin) and D3 (not lanolin!)

>no soda or juice. drink clean water, eat fresh fruit and veg

>protein from hemp/beans/nuts/seeds/unprocessed soy/spirulina/chia seeds counting the amino acids.

>no processed foods

>if you want to lose weight, and keep it off: avoid all white food. pasta/flour/bread/crackers/wheat/white beans/rice/corn/potato/sweet potato also don't eat way too much fruit because the sugar will get you fat sooner or later. some fruit is good, but too much is not good, even if the sugar is better and comes with good fiber.

>oats are an exception because they have anti-inflammatory properties and are handled by the body better

>when buying beans buy brightly or dark colored beans like dark red kidney beans, or black beans. avoid most white or lightly colored beans.

>buy fruits/veggies/nuts/seeds/beans/lentils/grains in bulk (dispenser section in wholefoods can be fair if you look carefully.

>chew your food, grandma was right. break it up so your stomach can get everything out of it (increased surface area)

>do an internet search: what food contains what vitamin, and do that for every vitamin and mineral until all are accounted for

>znaturalfoods.com and mountainroseherbs.com are great for organic spices, cheaper than at the store if you avoid those few scammy items, if you dedicate some effort to searching you might find an even better store, and better prices. so far I haven't found any better than these. if you know better than I do, please tell me so I can benefit from the knowledge as well.

>dont use microwave/teflon/aluminum/ceramic/nonstick/copper/teflon

>use stainless steel/cast iron/pyrex kitchenware

>look up monsanto, watch the movies "the world according to monsanto" "genetic roulett"

>eat nuts and seeds raw whenever possible as roasted dont give the same nutrition (it's okay to eat them roasted as an occasional snack)

>drink green/white tea, but get all your tea organic to avoid most contaminants, which in tea may include high lead and fluoride content.

>dont get scammed. if it seems too expensive, don't buy it. I often search around until I can find a good deal. just do what you can. go to wholefoods with the intention of not buying anything, just look in every part of the store and make a list of foods you consider to be a fair price. make a blacklist for things you think are a bullshit price and avoid those.

>try to get fresh fruits and vegetables from local farmers (but be careful! this just means they are near you, and has no guarantee they aren't loaded with pesticides or aren't gmo! ask for legal papers and proof because these people will tell you anything to your face to make you feel safe and buy their shit from their stand! find a good one you can trust and buy from them if you can)

>znaturalfoods.com and mountainroseherbs.com are websites that sell kelp, irish moss, spirulina which contain IODINE.

>you can blend them into fruit smoothies so your body can use iodine to bind and then throw away fluoride.

>your body can also use selenium (nuts and seeds) (brazil nuts having A FUCKING TON, read the warnings on too much selenium and do your brazil nut danger research!) to bind and throw away mercury, but that's another conversation

>Toothpaste is a major source of fluoride even if you don't swallow, even if you rinse and spit 100 times.

HOW TO MAKE YOUR OWN TOOTHPASTE

>get a glass jar with a lid

>cinnamon

>brush your teeth with that

>that's it

>THATS IT (this works great if you don't eat processed foods because you reduce the risk of cavities by cutting off your exposure to refined sugars)

>znaturalfoods sells cinnamon way cheaper than any store I have ever been to in my entire life if you are willing to buy it per pound.

another great trick or two for whitening your teeth is to brush your teeth with cinnamon, then put a small spoon of the yellow spice turmeric (related to ginger) in your mount and swishing it around until its a liquid (like mouthwash) for a few minutes. you can swallow the turmeric (but ask your doctor first) and then put a spoon of coconut oil in your mouth and swish it for another few minutes. spit the coconut oil out (in the trash, as it can freeze and harden in your pipes in cold weather, or may present other pipe clogging issues) and before you know it, a few days later you can notice a difference. (doing it every day of course, and changing your diet to a healthier one like this guide mentions)

Warning

Don't swallow any kind of toothpaste, ever. For this type of toothpaste the reason you don't want to swallow is the coumarin content. If you brush your teeth often, and you decide to be a dangerous idiot (absolutely not recommended! do not try this at home) and swallow the cinnamon toothpaste, you will get large doses of coumarin and get very sick or die.

I feel like my mouth is cleaner than ever, and again this is cheaper than any toothpaste you could ever buy in the store.

Method 2. (more difficult and more uncomfortable, but some people prefer it)

>you want to have about 80% coconut oil

>mix in a few teaspoons of baking soda until it dissolves but don't add too much

>(find baking soda and read the ingredients to make sure it only says sodium bicarbonate, NO aluminum)

>then mix in a small teaspoon or two of arrowroot powder (wholefoods has it in a bag)

and its done.

you can make very small amounts to practice until you get the right texture. its like a paste you put it on one finger and spread it onto your underarm.

always remember to read ingredient lists on everything.

RED PILL

>store bought toothpaste and tap water contains:

>fluorine

>sodium fluoride

>aluminum fluoride

>monofluorophosphate

alot of these are from aluminum factory run off but the BIGGEST scam and the reason why dentists and the government pushes fluoride so hard is because it is a waste product of refining plutonium and uranium enrichment for weapons and nuclear powerplants. It's insanely expensive to dispose of it legally so they sell it to dentists and the states to add to water as a supplement, medication without consent. People ingest it and it ends up in graveyards or downstream in the ocean, basically highly indirect illegal dumping.

Body care

if you can wash your hair with baking soda, and then vinegar, you avoid alot of crap from shampoo and conditioner (read those (((ingredients))) and shit your pants. it takes getting used to but you save loads of money from buying all that crap. I rub wet baking soda into my hair in the shower and rinse with water, then I add white distilled vinegar and rinse with water again, and then I let it dry and rub a small amount of coconut oil into my hair as my conditioner. If you can avoid the microwave too, and go organic or at least non-gmo and full plant based food, you avoid so much trash.

>pro tip: you can do your laundry with baking soda by lightly powdering your clothes until they look like you crashed into a bakery, and then throwing them in the washer, but do extra rinse cycles to dissolve it all out. you can also get 20 mule team borax and add it with some home made soap nut laundry detergent DIY's. yes, soap nuts. look it up.

It takes some getting used to but never give up and you will succeed. remember to avoid things that seem expensive, while many companies and corporations that sell organic food exist, many are out to just get inexperienced shoppers money. usda organic oats and flax seeds and dry black beans from wholefoods (dispenser section where you fill your own bag) are usually a good price to compare other things from as "fair"

I am Not a doctor or a dentist. Ask your doctor and dentist before doing anything.

>Wow Shwow look at all those ingredients!? like dude bro why come you don't just buy normal cereal instead so much easier rite?

First of all, all of those ingredients are just possiblities. You can choose to add or not add any combination of them and make your own custom cereal.

Secondly, you must probably not bring a calculator and a scale with you when you go shopping!

Do you even remember looking at cereal at any store and seeing how much it costs? I remember when the boxes of cereal were HUGE and only cost 2$ for a double pack. now cereal costs 7$ or more a box in most cases and the boxes are less than half the size they used to be. Not only that but cereal has become less dense. Cereal companies are literally selling you boxes full of air with "some cereal". Cereal has become the new potato chip bag and this is exactly why I want to stop supporting them, but I love cereal so much and I know other people do to, so I want to teach everyone how to be independent and self sufficient enough to make their own healthy and affordable cereal without any unhealthy additives. Screw the cereal companies. We freedom now.

I am not a doctor, a nutritionist, professional, or chef. ask your doctor before doing anything.

and don't give me smart assy replies like

>HEY BABE U WNT SM FUNK Y DONT JUST YOOZ GUYS FUKKEN THROW THE FUKKEN TITANIUM ALLOY CUT OATS INTO THE FUKKEN MOOSELY LIKE A CANADIAM WITH THE BIG FUKING NUTS YO BRO DO YOUR NUTS HANG LOW DO THEY WOBBLE 2 AND AFFRO?

if you read the OP you would realize that's basically what I did.

Stop Whining. You are on /fit/ where bros pump iron and eat squats and oats and you are too fucking lazy to hold some nuts in your hands for just a short moment and dunk them in a bowl so that you can feed your body the construction tools it needs to GAINS?

what shills and the misinformed all the way to the disinformed say and some really good responses to them (hope this helps you out /fit/! it's amazing how attacky the shills get when you talk about getting healthy, because the healthier you are the clearer your mind is. they can't have critical thinkers or their jobs will be more difficult when they shills you in other ways!)

>no meat?

>Gay as fuck!

>n-no meat please

>gay ass fuck

where do you like YOUR meat?

>you want me to limit butter, cholesterol, fat?

>fuck you! fats are needed for test!

instead, stop eating cheese and butter.

eat avocados and nuts and seeds. best fats in the world.

>Eat red meat!

>Guys develop by lifting extremely heavy things and eating bambi.

>muh manly meme says eat red meat

enjoy eating heart problems retard!

>eat alot of eggs!

you mean bad kinds of cholesterol?

>eat wheat, rice, and potatoes!

nice simple carbs m8. have fun when they all get digested and turned into sugar that creates insulin resistance and stubborn bellyfat

>You will be big and strong that way

you mean big and fat

>and they aren't hard to prepare.

eat lazy! this is better! obviously!

>gewgule will help you.

yes trust big brother to make dietary decisions for you.

>hurr eat fruit

>fructose kills gains if it isnt used up IMMEDIATELY

>also don't drink coffee and tea!

>are diuretics and result in net water LOSS

(Sarcasm) no no! don't eat fruit that has natural sugars bound to fiber and other nutrients, don't drink coffee and tea and avoid all antioxidants! why? because they will make you PEE!! and it's impossible to drink more water like nature intended! don't pee, and don't filter your blood with your kidneys! just drink the big brother approved high fructose corn syrup "enriched" soda! ((with big brother approved caffeine additives))

>eat nuts for protein

>hurr we should increase estrogen!

>avoid nuts! they all contain plant estrogens or structural components for estrogens!

(Sarcasm) Hurr! completely disregard that flax seeds lower prostate cancer risk in men, and soy reduces breast cancer risk in women! disregard that both males and females both make testosterone and estrogen and many other kinds of hormones! manly men must only eat testosterone! avoid nuts like the plague! hurfy durfy!

>avoid red meat

>what kind of a fucking retard made these reccomendations?

OH NO MANLY MEN NEED THEIR MEAT! suck on that delicious meat! how dare you get your protein from hemp or spirulina! how dare you eat nuts and beans! how dare you avoid sources of protein that contribute to increased cancer risk!

>vegan foods are purpose made to produce hipster liberals

ANYTHING HEALTHY IS AUTOMATICALLY LIBERAL HIPSTER SJW FOOD FOR GAY VEGANS

>You sound like you don't even lift

OH! you discredited me. just because you said that.

>niacin vitamin b3

Bell Peppers

Asparagus

Green Peas

Carrots

Tomatoes

Cantaloupe

Collard Greens

Brussels Sprouts

Fennel

Parsley

Chili Peppers

Swiss Chard

Mustard Greens

Eggplant

Turnip Greens

Cabbage

Spinach

Broccoli

Green Beans

Bok Choy

Beet Greens

Kale

>pantothenic acid vitamin b5

Broccoli

Turnip Greens

Avocado

Lentils

Cucumber

Celery

Beet Greens

Asparagus

Dried Peas

Bell Peppers

>pyridoxine vitamin b6

Spinach

Broccoli

Garlic

Bok Choy

Bell Peppers

Turnip Greens

Cabbage

>biotin vitamin b7 also known as vitamin H

Almonds

Tomatoes

Oats

Onions

Carrots

Banana

Strawberries

Watermelon

Walnuts

Raspberries

>phosphorus

Soybeans

Oats

Pumpkin Seeds

Peas

Lentils

Broccoli

Spinach

Asparagus

Tomato

Kidney beans

Black beans

Sesame Seeds

Cashews

Sunflower Seeds

Almonds

Flax Seeds

Onions

>potassium

Spinach

Beets

Broccoli

Tomato

Carrots

Kale

Asparagus

Celery

Lentils

Kidney Beans

Peas

>sodium

just eat some natural salt (food grade obviously)

>chlorine

(I very rarely add small amounts of natural salt to my food for the sodium chloride)

I dont always use salt, but when I do I use a little.

>magnesium

Spinach

Pumpkin Seeds

Soy Beans

Cashews

Sesame Seeds

Black Beans

Kidney beans

Almonds

Dark Chocolate

>molybdenum

Kidney Beans

Lentils

Peas

Black Beans

Oats

Tomato

Celery

Carrots

Walnuts

Almonds

>manganese

Spinach

Oats

Pineapple

Raspberries

Strawberries

Turmeric

Kale

Garlic

Soy Beans

Basil

Lentils

Peas

Almonds

Celery

Kidney Beans

Banana

Onions

Black Beans

>iron

Spinach

Cumin

Parsley

Turmeric

Asparagus

Soy Beans

Lentils

Pumpkin Seeds

Kale

Black Beans

Peas

Broccoli

Kidney Beans

>zinc

Asparagus

Lentils

Spinach

Cashews

Peas

Pumpkin Seeds

Broccoli

Sesame Seeds

Oats

Tomato

>copper

Asparagus

Sesame Seeds

Kale

Cashews

Soy Beans

Spinach

Sunflower Seeds

Walnuts

Almonds

Lentils

Peas

Flax Seeds

Pineapple

Raspberries

Grapes

Broccoli

Kiwi

>iodine

Spirulina

Kelp

Strawberries

Dried Seaweed

>selenium

Brazil nuts (has alot! don't eat too many)

Mustard Seeds

Sunflower Seeds

Asparagus

Sesame Seeds

Flax Seeds

Spinach

Broccoli

Garlic

>Chromium

Oats

Tomato

Broccoli

Apples

Bananas

Green Beans

Molasses

Prunes

Dates

>boron

Broccoli

Carrots

Almonds

Dates

Prunes

Walnuts

Lentils

Kidney Beans

Avocados

Bananas

Onions

Cashews

>silica

horsetail is one of the best

do your research

amino acids

(hemp protein powder is great for this since it contains ALL the essential and non essential amino acids!)

eating both hemp protein powder and spirulina powder is an excellent way to stay on top of your essential and non essential amino acid needs.

I like to sprinkle spirulina and hemp protein powder on my cereal. turns it an alien blue green color, tastes the same. smells chalky though.

hemp protein powder is great to add with some cacao powder and raisins in the blender with just water, you don't even need milk. makes the best the best the best chocolate protein smoothie I ever drank.

other good sources of plant protein include

(they may or may not be as complete in the amino acids as hemp, but eating a variety of different plant foods is a cool way to overlap their nutritional content so you get a bit of everything from each)

peas

beans

nuts

seeds like chia and flax

oats

peanut butter (get the natural stuff. no ingredients other than peanuts)

broccoli

best fiber

oats

beans

flax seeds

chia seeds

peas

broccoli

lentils

best healthy carbs

beans

oats

peas

lentils

best omega 3's

walnuts

chia seeds

flax seeds

pumpkin seeds

remember to buy your chia seeds and flax seeds whole, store them in a dark cool place, and grind them at home right before use. you don't want fats that went bad. those are vulnerable to spoiling even if you don't notice.

best fats

nuts

seeds

avocados

>Choline

broccoli

asparagus

spinach

peas

nuts

>inositol

citrus fruits

nuts

another way of getting phosphatidyl choline and phosphatidyl inositol is to find a good source of non-gmo organic soy lecithin (if you don't mind soy)

Warning

there is a connection between eating meat, choline, carnitine, getting cancer and cholesterol problems, and TMAO. this is a great video explaining this. what's the funny part? doesn't get digested the same way in people who eat a strictly plant based diet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3yp0oTd1YA

I am Not a doctor or a nutritionist. Ask a doctor and nutritionist before doing anything.

Questions and Answers

just so you know: without a doubt this thread will be swarmed by shills or people claiming that I'm gay just because I like plants. I'm gay for completely different reasons I swearjk or screaming "whear u git protons?" or "muh organ meats!" "eat animal brains!" just do your research. don't fall for the rigged studies and everyone who is trying so desperately to confuse you so that you are not the best you can be

make sure that you don't trust me! I'm just a plant faggot! do your own research!

pro tip: when you go full plant based, you get the BEST shits. even better after you learn how to toilet squat safely. (don't try this at home)

>SAGE!

>Great thread, if only we had IDs, we'd see >(80).

Yea maybe more. I'm an involved OP and I don't just pump out a thread and dump it on you guys. I stick around and answer questions because I'm a good fucking person and a real human bean. alright bro?

>Nobody cares, OP. Go be a passive aggresive cunt somewhere else.

>Nobody cares, OP. - they say as they post in the thread

>Go be a passive aggresive cunt somewhere else. -they say as they passive aggresively post in the thread and tell the OP to get out of their own thread and go somewhere else (so they can complain there too)

you really need to sort out your own life out before you provide deconstructive criticism and point out problems in everyone else.

>Also what is OP's opinion on an old fashioned vegetarian diet? I have purged all meat, all soda, virtually all GMOs, most processed sugars and carbs, but still consume some limited eggs, milk and cheese, etc.

ask your doctor the difference between the health of people who are fully vegan (and doing it correctly with all vitamins and minerals and necessary nutrients and amino acids and omega 3 accounted for) vs vegetarians who still eat milk, cheese, eggs. you will be surprised.

>What do you do about all the phytic acid?

>nuts and seeds

eat em roasted occasionally or just soak raw nuts and seeds in water overnight and rinse them out to "activate them" (you can't really activate cooked or roasted nuts and seeds)

>beans

soak overnight and drain, add new water, and cook really really well.

>grains

cooking them usually works, toasted rolled oats tastes great as home made cereal.

also, it's important to eat lots of garlic and onions (avoid a few days before going out on a date or something) because they help with vitamin and mineral absorption, and they are great cancer fighters.

also here are some links on phytate, tell me what you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufsZ3PtMKLQ

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17044765

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKvT8kcbSYg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKW4S2Nw6Jw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgihTBZrOvY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmg9kLe3tQI

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9808648

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8777015

http://www.phytochemicals.info/abstracts/phytic-acid-antioxidant.php

>Also, why be plant based in the first place?

you could do it for a combo of sad animal reasons and health reasons or you could say "fuck it, I'm only doing this for me" in that case, you still want to avoid meat, chicken, and fish and anything that comes from animals. even if it came from a clean place top KEK in 20XX when you cook animal products they become carcinogenic. the youtube channel nutrition facts mentions alot of this. I'll post my link list. ask for it if I forgot, and I will gladly post it for you.

>"but muh plants make acrylamide!"

don't burn your vegetables you stupid fuck

>you say meat doesn't contribute to the healthfulness and I strongly disagree. Vegetarians and especially vegans have to jump through hoops to get proper levels of nutrition without meat. And just to be clear when I say meat I'm also talking about organ meats, which are woefully underrepresented in most modern diets. Especially liver, absolutely packed with nutrition. And fish are very important for your diet as well, and that's meat as far as I'm concerned.

Don't underestimate the amino acid content of hemp protein powder and spirulina. I can also eat beans and nuts and cacao beans and I actually get too much protein.

as for fish, I rather get my Omega3 fatty acids from walnuts, pumpkin seeds, flax seeds, and chia seeds. if you are only interested in the liver for vitamin A content, why aren't you eating spinach like our favorite sailor or carrots like our favorite rabbit? seriously, ask your doctor about this.

>You could just get all your nutrients the natural way without having to plan your diet so much and take supplements, which every plant based person I've ever met has to.

you what MVIII? hemp protien powder, spirulina, moringa powder, maca root, fruits and veg ARE my multivitamins. I only supplement D3 and B12.

>So, uh, what does all of this have to do with /pol/? Not news, not events, not happenings. Mostly just a bunch of "eat like me, faggot" blogshit.

because /pol/ is important. many people want you to succeed. if you eat healthy you will live for longer. you will have influence on the world for longer, and be able to teach others for longer. what you say and do, does and will continue to have an effect upon the earth.

>The fact that he admits that he supplements b12 and d3 blows his argument that meat adds no nutritional value out of the water.

go ahead and do some research on people who get deficiencies on b12 and D3 (even people who eat meat and eggs get this, but they don't want you to know that)

b12 supposedly shows up in dirt alot, because the bacteria there make it

supposedly some people who study the past suggest people got more b12 because they didn't rinse off root vegetables or other plants very much before eating them because they didn't consider dirt as dangerous of a think as we do (or something along those lines) and ate more dirt accidentally. then again, great way to get parasites and other horrible diseases.

d3 is a controversial issue as well. alot of people just say "just go outside without a shirt on for a while every day"

and their advice is good and bad. yes, you will get some vitamin d just from exposing your skin to the sun, depending on your race you might need more or less….

but we also have to take into consideration the fact that our atmosphere is all fucked up. weather or not you believe in global warming or climate change doesn't matter a shitting bit. the fact is that for some reason, known or unknown, agreed upon or not, our atmosphere has some fucked up shit going on. alot more UV is getting through than it used to. this means more skin cancer, more sunburn, and more eye cancers or eye health problems.

so the b12 and d3 issue is a controversial one.

you can:

>eat alot of eggs and meat and get alot of sun hoping to get some b12 and d

>comes with bad things like increased skin and eye health problems and circulatory system health problems

OR, you can do what I do: (and honestly I rather do it this way, plant based fegget lel or stronk manly meat man stereotype) and just get them from a brand I can trust.

>wear protective clothing when outside

>wash and cook my food properly

>still get my b12 and d3 with less risk

I think it's silly but very sad that meat eaters get the b12 only because the animal is also given the same thing as a supplement, and we then watch those same people still get b12 deficiency anyway because it absorbs so poorly into the animals who are given the supplement (injected or added to food) and we again absorb it poorly when we eat the animal products.

I'm just saying.

VERY IMPORTANT TO AVOID PETTY ARGUMENT DERAILS

>we are predators! no! we are prey! no! we are carnivores! no! we are herbivores! no! we are hunter gatherers! no! we are apex predators! we are born with powertools in our moms vaginas! no thats not true because you actually are not! but wait! the samurai considers their sword an extension of themselves. Oh shit, I've thrown a wrench in the already wrench filled gears. no! we are omnivores!

>but humans don't have big pointy teeth because as they became more intelligent, they didn't need to kill stuff or fight with their teeth

I will say this. have complete faith in the bible and you will falter. have complete faith in science and you will do the same.

the last thread got derailed fast. if you aren't shills, why do you argue about the most stupid shit? Muh technology, muh guns, muh petty random shit. all I'm saying is eat your fruits and veg, and avoid shit thats scientifically proven (yes I know some science is shit, see red shift) to be bad for you. we can all jerk around pretending to know everything about ourselves, and I'm slightly guilty of this by association of trying my best to understand and making what I only believe are fair logical guesses, but it all comes down to this:

we all know that even the mightiest predator in the wild is preyed upon by the smallest of parasites, like mites, worms, and mosquitos for example. there are rare, if any at all exceptions for this. nobody is really immune to everything. we are all technically each others prey. you see, perfection is a dead end in this reality. the reason we are all so simultaneously tough and weak is because everything on earth can in some way fuck the shit up of someone or something else, while also being vulnerable to getting it's own shit fucked up by just about anything, even by accident.

since there is danger everywhere, we are all forced to constantly try our best, and that is what makes us weak, but also monsters.

>bla bla bla we are the sculptor but also the marble

Yea.

just take a look at the aboriginal peoples. they looked strong, but after the globalists reached them and gave them tshirts and alchohol, they look pathetic. they are a destroyed people. it's very sad.

just because we are capable of doing many different things, like the aboriginals were capable of accepting the tshirts and alchohol and other globalist bullshit which ruined their lives, doesn't mean that we should.

even if we are omnivores, and are capable of eating both plant based foods and animal based foods it doesn't mean that we should

if we are capable of getting all of our nutritional needs in a way that poses the least risks to us, and benefits us the most, then that is logically the way that we should do it.

which brings me to one of the most important points:

AVOID EATING SHIT, EAT GOOD THINGS.

go learn all about how the government subsidizes most of the worst and most unhealthy shit out there and ask yourself why they do that? ask yourselves why so many people that work in big pharma and other corporations work double jobs/double positions in the government. ask yourselves where the money goes when you buy food, and where your money goes when that very food makes you sick. who benefits from your ignorance and suffering? who throws millions and millions of dollars at the government crying and begging them to stop them from labeling GMO foods so that people are uninformed and unable to make a free choice in the store? who cries out in pain as they strike at the innocent?

>so you're telling us you like the taste of nut milk?

yes I like nut milk. bitchs love my cashew sauce

>natural

I'm going to eat what's healthy, not because it's called natural. I avoid synthetic multivitamin shit, but I eat plants like spinach for the vitamins. I could say that the spinach (if it's organic, or I grew it myself) is more "natural" than the synthetic multivitamin and be fairly "fair" by doing so, but you got to be careful. not everything that's natural is good.

snakes. snakes are natural.

watch this funny fucking video.

guaranteed to make you laugh really hard, or you have a shitty sense of humor

http s://www.y outube.com/watch?v=AftZshnP8fs

>no soda or juice. drink clean water, eat fresh fruit and veg

>What's the problem with juice?

make your own juice at home at least. store bought juice is just mostly sugar water, even if it's organic. But even then! why drink juice when you can eat the fruit itself? I would rather eat an apple and an orange than drink apple juice or orange juice.

>Why is fluoride bad?

thyroid and endocrine system disruptor. makes you wonder why so many people get cancer? honestly there are alot of reasons and it's just one of them. lots of people also say it calcifies the pineal gland. people these days get loads of fluoride exposure. they drink it in their water, they brush their teeth with it, they rinse their mouthwash (some contain fluoride) then they go to the dentist and get a cleaning. guess what's in the stuff they use, and then the dentist gives you a fluoride rinse as well. it's way too damn much. alot of kids and people get "dental and skeletal fluorosis".

>If you had to make a pantry/refrigerator from 15 foods, what would they be?

scroll to the the section where I mention foods for every vitamin and mineral. honestly lots like those.

nuts, seeds, beans, greens, onions, garlic, fruit, veg, oats, favoring complex carbs, avoiding simple carbs and simple sugars and most if not all proccessed foods. whole food, plant based diet avoiding pesticides and gmo's. organic if possible, non-gmo at the very least. shop where you can afford it. don't get ripped off. (whole food, not the store wholepaycheck)

>Many of your recommendations for vitamins are sources of goitrogens, which are bad for the thyroid.

I don't think there are nearly enough of those in plant foods to hurt anyone. I have been eating plant based for quite a while and never had any problems.

>Unbalanced sources of nutrition is one thing that happens when you avoid animal products at all costs.

which is why I mentioned a list of what foods correspond to each vitamin and mineral.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goitrogen

https://archive.is/nAocO

>Goitrogens are substances (whether in drugs, chemicals, or foods) that disrupt the production of thyroid hormones by interfering with iodine uptake in the thyroid gland. This triggers the pituitary to release TSH, which then promotes the growth of thyroid tissue, eventually leading to goiter.

this is why you eat iodine rich foods like I mentioned in my thread (did you read or skim?) it's important to get a good amount, but not too much as it can also be harmful to have too much iodine.

>iodine

Spirulina

Kelp

Strawberries

Dried Seaweed

>This article has multiple issues.

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>This article needs additional citations for verification. (October 2007)

>This article possibly contains original research. (September 2014)

seems fishy

>but protein deficiency

if you research the amount of protein that people actually need every day, and then research the amount of protein found in plant foods, you quickly realise that vegans are doing alright. even potatos have some. I wouldn't depend on them though. variety is very imporant

>why don't you like storebought multivitamins and similar things in general OP?

Okay, listen. go to a store. pick up a bottle of any popular name brand multivitamin.

read all the different ingredient lists (usually more than one) and tell me you want to put that synthetic shit into your body. tell me that's healthy. protip: it's shit

even the vitamins themselves in the multivitamins are shit quality, not even to mention the horrible additives.

if I can eat spinach and nuts and herbs and other plants and get the same vitamins and minerals and nutrients, I'm definitely doing it that way.

>vegetarianism has been a dietary fad for thousands of years--but there's never been any sustained culture that ate meat-free, except for brief periods when no meat was available

>in fact--it was only until very recently (the 1950's) that all the necessary nutrients humans needed were even identified. which pretty much guarantees that all the vegetarians before that were technically malnourished

that's a big assumption to make considering that rice and beans has been a staple food for certain cultures for very very long and rice and beans just happen to contain amino acids that the other is missing. (they both have amino acids that the other doesn't and make up for each other) and how do you explain ancient cultures eating hemp seeds? (contains all the essential amino acids) many ancient cultures also ate chia seeds.

>meanwhile, the Inuit have been eating meat-only for roughly 5000 years.

they are different obviously. how? I don't know.

>if eating only meat was bad for you, all the Eskimos should have died off a long long time ago.

because the Eskimos eat the same meat that everyone in America does. right?

>You can make arguments for eating healthier all you want but can you make any arguments for why I would want to live on this earth as a decrepit fuck even longer than I would just eating what I want to?

>Or how sacrificing the enjoyment of unhealthy food for my entire life is somehow worth having a few more years to be an old potentially dementia ridden bag of bones that nobody in the world cares about because everyone I've ever loved is dead?

>Yeah no thanks, I'm going to enjoy things in life despite them decreasing my lifespan because I'm of the opinion that quality is better than quantity.

do you want to live every year taking tons of prescription drugs for all the health problems you're likely to get on the standard american diet? do you want a higher risk for diabetes, atherosclerosis, high cholesterol, prostate cancer, breast cancer (men have tissues there too), alzheimer's, dementia, and many other cancers and health issues?

or would you rather maybe live the same, or maybe even live a little longer but have a higher quality of life until your day (hopefully naturally) comes?

>I'm of the opinion that quality is better than quantity.

then you just proved yourself wrong buddy. if you eat shit you will live years in health problem hell before the natural end. alternatively, you can eat healthy and there's a higher possibility that you will live more years peacefully and in good health.

quality of life, over quantity of junk food experiences. you choose.

I'm Not a doctor. Ask your doctor before doing anything.

>salad is horrible!

set aside some space for when you want to make it fresh. get your fresh ingredients somewhere that sells them at a fair price. make it fresh at home and then eat it right away.

fun salad recipe for beginners

>can of corn

>can of black beans

>can of red kidney beans

>some fresh dark green leafy vegetables

>balsamic vinegar

>cucumber (diced)

>some mild salsa (if you can't handle the hotter stuff)

>diced carrots

>diced celery

>lime

>lemon

wash everything really good then squeeze some lime and lemon juice in a cup with water for your drink (just lemony limey water, kinda nice actually unless you're brainwashed to drink soda)

and then squeeze the rest of the lemon lime juice in the salad greens after shredding them into bite size pieces, add everything else in, pour in some balsamic vinegar, drain the canned beans and corn and add them in on top of the greens after washing and mix it all together. leave the salsa on the side and eat a spoon of it every few bites after the salad. take a sip of your drink and chill. nice.

want to share some recipes?

here is a good one:

>peas

>carrots

>corn

>tomato paste

>potatoes

>(you can skip the potatoes and corn if you are trying to lose weight)

>onions

>garlic

>celery

>add to a pot with some water

>make veg stew

or

>don't add the tomato or celery

>use all the other ingredients

>put it in a pyrex in the oven

>onions and garlic at the bottom so they caramelize

>slow bake it until the onions underneath (don't make this too thick or it wont cook evenly!) are caramelized and the top of the veg is crispy and golden brown

protip: you don't have to use oil, just cook on a lower temp for longer so you get some crisp

anyone else got some good plant based recipes?

oh and I forgot, you can add some soy beans (out of the pod) (and remember always non-gmo at the very least!). they blend in nicely along side the peas, but add alot of extra texture contrast and some nice after flavors.

I am Not a doctor or a nutritionist. Ask your doctor and nutritionist before doing anything.

>"Monsanto accused of hiring army of trolls to silence online dissent"

https://archive.is/qNYon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKw6YjqSfM

>"The FDA Doesn’t Even TEST the Safety of Genetically Engineered Foods"

https://archive.is/La7km

>"Five Ways the FDA Has Failed Consumers on Genetically Engineered Foods"

https://archive.is/SfJ9c

https://archive.is/aArtH

https://archive.is/X5WfG

https://archive.is/Pqubt

https://archive.is/Z9PmL

>"WHO: Long-cleared Roundup ingredient ‘probably’ causes cancer"

https://archive.is/UWwji

>"Roundup weedkiller 'probably' causes cancer, says WHO study"

https://archive.is/zYf8e

>"WHO Report Links Weed Killer Ingredient to Cancer Risk"

https://archive.is/BcI10

https://archive.is/Y1H2d

http://www.gmwatch.org/index.php/news/archive/2013/15007-complete-genes-can-pass-from-food-to-human-blood-study

https://archive.is/TQa5

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1388888/GM-food-toxins-blood-93-unborn-babies.html

https://archive.is/7Dip4

http://naturalsociety.com/monsantos-gmo-bt-toxins-93-pregnant-women-80-unborn-babies/

two great videos

http s://www.y outube.com/watch?v=AftZshnP8fs

https://www.y outube.com/watch?v=ovKw6YjqSfM

>GMOs are just doing what we have been doing to plants for thousands of years, artificial & selective evolution, just on a must faster scale.

>Botanists and farmers could eventually breed crops that do everything GMOs do, but it would take much, much longer.

WRONG

selective breeding =/= taking something into a lab and genetically modifying it often times with the gentic material of other plants, animals, microorganisms, life forms, or artificial gentic material, and then drenching it with pesticides.

while selective breeding would eventually lead to alot of cool things, there are many things that selective breeding would be highly highly unlikely to ever lead to. genetic modification isn't a short cut, it's an instant artificial change that is extremely likely to have never occured.

>I am allowed to be who I want to be

>Criticizing me on my weight is oppression

>Obese people deserve special treatment

>I am not fat, I am simply curvy

>Health at every size

>It's genetics

FAT ACCEPTANCE IS WRONG

Obese people will make the most irrational decisions and will find any way to justify their unhealthy eating habits and lack of aerobic exercise. Attempting to brief obese individuals on why their obesity is negatively affecting them is considered going against political correctness and is considered discrimination. However, a quick look at the scientific articles that I have provided below will show that obesity is truly bad. Not only does it increase your chance of diseases such as heart disease, malnutrition, stupidity, hormone imbalances, and many other harmful effects, but it can permanently damage your brain and cognitive abilities and may leave you not as intelligent as you use to be, assuming you were intelligent in the first place.

Cognitive Effects:

https://archive.is/32k2U

h ttps://w ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3951958/

https://archive.is/IzEGk

h ttps://w ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3768113/

https://archive.is/5Fedr

h ttps://w ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2748863/

https://archive.is/lLAeH

h ttps://w ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3147174/

https://archive.is/ZgeRq

h ttps://w ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3872007/

https://archive.is/pWeht

h ttps://w ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4237034/

https://archive.is/s4djy

h ttps://w ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3321396/

>"More than two-thirds (68.8 percent) of adults are considered to be overweight or obese."

>"More than one-third (35.7 percent) of adults are considered to be obese."

https://archive.is/pRI5D

h ttps://w ww.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/Pages/overweight-obesity-statistics.aspx

shills in action

frying foods create alot of carcinogens and frying plants creates acrylamide and might increase the risk of cancer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9GIJ9KyV38

http://www.globalresearch.ca/monsanto-controls-both-the-white-house-and-the-us-congress/5336422

http://rense.com/general33/fd.htm

http://occupy-monsanto.com/35-individuals-who-worked-for-monsanto-andthe-u-s-government/

http://occupy-monsanto.com/

http://archive.is/HC8hv

https://archive.is/OKNB1

https://archive.is/ItUla

https://archive.is/zqbM0

http://archive.is/uEdN6

almost forgot

this too

updated with small info.

>>122063

a-anon kun, please d-don't do that…

>this thread

I am without words…

>>122258

>how do you explain some of the female body builders then?

>Test injections or 3x more effort than a man with test.

nice try you manipulative fuck, you edited what I wrote in my post before replying to me. you think nobody goes back and reads the thread to see who's replying to who and what they said?

>>122166

>do you really believe that phytoestrogens kill gains? how do you explain some of the female body builders then? the ones that don't use drugs

>There is no other option.

because you would be in no-argument la-la-land.

>did you know that men and women both have testosterone and estrogen among many other different hormones?

>Did you know that your anus and a dick are made of very similar cells? That must mean your anus needs a dick in it.

very mature and 10/10 argument. now go back to 4chan.

>look up how much hormones make it into your steak or your milk or fish

>They give growth hormones to cows jackass, look up the half life of growth hormones in the body.

Yes, that's my point.

>>122261

oh yes yes, please drown me in your artificially engineered synthetic atmosphere of mock disapproval! that will surely convince no one to read the thread and improve upon their health and well being! everyone will stay cucked! good job globalist shills, you win *obama wink*

http s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id6nCa_OTEM

>>122288

kneel before me shills and wash my feet in public before a large crowd.