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 No.9040>>9057 >>9183 >>9232 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Violence against the citizenry demonstrates to them the unrest they have fomented through their statist politics; the random deaths of otherwise innocent statists proves to the survivors that their government cannot protect them, and that their totalitarian pursuits such as military interventions and domestic surveillance do not in fact keep them safe from the enemies they have made.

I really believe in the non aggression principle, I really do, I believe in peaceful anarchy, but not in our time; I'm certain of the end, and there is nothing that peace will preserve. Can we really save ourselves when the next dark age could last for centuries on end? If nothing can be saved, then what does violence accomplish? Part of me really wants to do it, bomb football stadiums and derail trains. But I know it won't satisfy me, if it accomplishes nothing. Do you guys like violence? If so, do you think it is practical, or is it just an emotional thing for you?

 No.9046

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>There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror---that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


 No.9048>>9058 >>9060 >>9234

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We are animals, we are not enlighted creatures different from all the others and touched from God, we just have higher IQ. In a primal situation the levels of agression on a individual dictated his chances of survival and procreation, and because of it humanity as a whole developed it. We never evoluted as animals past the beggining of society, we still the same, same instincts, same standards for finding mates, same reactions in life or death situations, and like you or not, violence and agression are a fundamental and indivisable part of every human being.

>I believe in peaceful anarchy, but not in our time

I don't believe in peaceful anarchy in any time, any system that needs only 1 (one) smartass to break the rules and take advantage of others, is a system bound to fail. Even if you build a "smartass genociding foundation", the bloodbath will enrage the common citizens, the ones that follow the unspoken agreements, and in a few time your system colapses.

>Part of me really wants to do it, bomb football stadiums and derail trains

And you don't do it because your rational mind or your lack of willpower and confidence tells you not to. But not all people are that much influenced by those things, that's why an anarchic society would never work. Hell, I am not even the most transgressive person around, I'm kinda of a cuck, but even still I have already slipped in agrary reform movements even tough I don't believe that shit just to pick up some land. In the end we are just mamals, and unlike bees and ants, mamals group in societies because it benefits then and their offspring as individuals, not because of the protection of the said society itself. When his safety and the safety of the colectivety are conflicting, their instincts are to preserve thenselves and their kids, and the same applies to humans, the only ones that don't follow those rules being the ones that have put their personal morals above their instincts.

>so what if we make everyone be rational

A human is born, it grows up, it acquires knowledge, and at some point puts rationality above their primal instincts, women never do constantly evoluting it's rationality, until the day it dies. Every human pass trough that cicle, every human will feel the need of breaking current norms, and so on. Unless you pick a bunch of old people, freeze their ages, and stop then from having kids, that kind of society is unachiveable by nature.


 No.9057>>9060

>>9040 (OP)

>I really believe in the non aggression principle, I really do, I believe in peaceful anarchy, but not in our time

Yes, maybe one day, until then I'm egoist-illegalist. Shit will maybe hit the fan, who cares, the only thing I want is to feel excited when I will loot the boomer's shop and his car. While people will fight for spooky shit like politics, race, human rights (top kek), I will be there just to loot like an existence itself, like a nigger. I don't even need the stuff, I just want to loot and laugh at people bleeding out for their ideals on the pavement, got it? And then, maybe one day, maybe then we can sit down in our communities and talk about peaceful anarchy.

>If nothing can be saved, then what does violence accomplish?

>Do you guys like violence? If so, do you think it is practical, or is it just an emotional thing for you?

Nah but there option to kill money as well. Think about it, you don't have to enjoy the violence, you practice it, but you don't feel bad about it either. What if violence will be again a way how to survive in general population, and I'm not talking only about crime, I'm talking about protecting yourself etc.


 No.9058

>>9048

>any system that needs only 1 (one) smartass to break the rules and take advantage of others, is a system bound to fail.

Taking advantage over others is the rule of nature. You won't have system without ways of taking advantage over others even if you dumb down everything to pure caveman life, nor if you build transhumanist utopia outsmarting even the nature itself. It's the natural circle of life, the balances of power, we are doomed forever to this world of leverages, trying to keep the balance and sometimes the blood will flow down the pavements. There is nothing we can do about it.

>their instincts are to preserve thenselves and their kids,

Absolutely false in this time and age. Thanks to overpopulation the price of human life dropped to zero. That's why people are not having enough kids, that's why people destroy themselves, that's why we are not getting rid of violent crimes, that's why you are nothing else than a number of government statistics. Plus it's nature, it's how it works, it's again nothing else but nature trying to balance out humans. If there would be a need for survival, people would have more kids.


 No.9060>>9061

>>9048

Even if the next civilization does escape the trajectory of previous attempts, I know it won't be a utopia, for sure. Just an equilibrium at best. The more stable and trusting and prosperous a society becomes, the more opportune it is to steal things; the more people steal, the more security there is. So one doesn't eliminate the other, we just reach a workable equilibrium. Morals don't exist the same way gravity exists, like a literal force of good that prevents evil, but it's a name given to the expressed preferences of individuals, which I believe boil down to freedom, or an opposition to opposition. Which is also why I experience conflict when trying to justify or practice violence.

>>9057

>loot the boomer's shop and his car.

Yeah, my main point in favor of violence is that it is retaliation against people who threw the first stone. My state's capital city recently billed the citizens $1.6 billion to construct a new sports arena and then more to demolish the old one next door. They've also been enslaved to maintain it and pay for upkeep for the next several decades. And of course if you refuse to pay for the stadium by withholding taxes, they will come to put you in prison and seize your property; if you resist them then, they just kill you. So in my understanding of things, sports fans who go to the stadium are in favor of this, and they are the aggressors. Blowing up the stadium and killing the people inside is therefore retaliation against their theft, and should morally be classified as self defense. Like if someone steals my car, and I go take my car back, I'm not a thief just because he doesn't want me to steal it.


 No.9061

>>9060

If you want push things to the real level, you should ask yourself if you really need a spook of morality behind your actions. Why not to blow it up just because you felt like it? I'm not just trying to be funny or something, I mean, if we talk about violence or literally anything, do we really need to justify our actions? Look around yourself at this world, feel it, smell it, grab the essence of it and then tell me it's really worth to spend even 1 second trying to excuse your own actions. You won't be a martyr, you will be just a headline in news for 1 day, that's it.


 No.9066>>9187

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AKs and tomahawks for everyone

let the mayhem begin

the great purge is long overdue

everyone against everyone

royal battle

until we are all crippled or dead

just like in technolyze


 No.9143

>ancap bullshit

nah m80 I'm good.


 No.9144

mostly I believe in a primitive totalitarian society ruled by rural poor people over rich fucks so they can be humiliated and beaten to work in our corn fields, ole Jeb and Cletus can beat the fuck out of business suit wearing capitalists at gun point with crowbars if they don't produce enough crops for the proletarian ruling class, while J and C's wives are forced to be indentured sex/reproduction slaves/glorified dishwashers for them and catch these hands if they speak up against them or try and divorce (divorce will be illegal, as will protesting). they are to make Jeb and Cletus kids and lots of them, forcing disgraced stockholders and wall street goons to work harder as glorified cattle for the rural outlands.


 No.9183

>>9040 (OP)

Violence generally demonstrates a lack of power because you wouldn't need to use it if you could control or influence others in non violent ways.


 No.9187>>9253

>>9066

Great Anime. One of my favourite characters ever. I have nothing for love for that fictional man…


 No.9232>>9236

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>>9040 (OP)

if you are going to do it, consider this

>high value target

>high value/symbolic location

>noble reason

>plan to escape so you can do it again

dont just be a r9k weenie and shoot up a yoga studio please.


 No.9234>>9252

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>>9048

>We are animals, we are not enlighted creatures different from all the others and touched from God, we just have higher IQ. In a primal situation the levels of agression on a individual dictated his chances of survival and procreation, and because of it humanity as a whole developed it. We never evoluted as animals past the beggining of society, we still the same, same instincts, same standards for finding mates, same reactions in life or death situations, and like you or not, violence and agression are a fundamental and indivisable part of every human being.

brazilians in a nutshell

White people on the other hand:


 No.9236>>9247


 No.9247>>9248 >>9249

>>9236

>The bus stop itself was largely undamaged.

good song name

yeah this seems like a waste

>random working class people

>bus stop

>no clear and obvious message

these were just stupid niggers, doing nigger shit


 No.9248

>>9247

>A militant environmental group claimed the attack on its website. Two years ago the group -- identifying themselves as “Individualists Tending to the Wild” – said they were behind a parcel bomb attack that injured the head of state-owned copper mining giant Codelco.

this sounds more promising.

seriosuly, are they against people taking the bus or something? this is dumb


 No.9249>>9261

>>9247

>>no clear and obvious message

There is literally a communique and an interview. go and read ya lazy fuck.


 No.9252>>9253

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>>9234

500 years ago our country was just thicc woods from all sides, habitated with natives that haven't even reached the bronze age yet. We only became independent from portugal in the XVIII century, and only left the monarchy to become a republic in the end of the XIX century. Most of our culture, values, and law system are copy pasted from portugal and other european countries. Even art and artistic movements, if I show you pictures of brazilian catholic churches you will think I'm posting european ones. If anything, I say we are not doing too bad, actually even better than some countries in the middle east and oriental side of the world that have millenials of history. If anything, I am proud of how we don't get too stuck up into "going back to the roots and give a middle finger to the eevil colonialist countries culture" and actually try to learn from the mistakes and good things done by other countries.

Also, I was talking about human instincts, not about their rationality and achievements past the centuries. Even nowadays the way and standards to wich people choose partners is still the same as the beggining of civilization, as animals, biologically speaking, we didn't change that much at all. If you don't insert into a kid the values of society, the knowledge we gathered during the story of mankind, and the morals of your social group, he will be no different than an animal.


 No.9253>>9256

>>9252

Is it true that Brazillian women like to whore around and that Brazillian men are womanbeaters?

>>9187

supreme taste


 No.9256>>9275

>>9253

Those statistics are overly inflated by feminists. If anything, our laws against domestic violence are way more agressive than yours. There are police stations that specializes only in domestic violence, and high discrepancy on the laws of domestic violence giving favors to women. If a woman beat you, for example, it goes for a normal police station, while if you beat her, it goes to the "women's deputy", that is almost always in control of an angry feminazi judge straight out of college. Not bragging, I actually think it sucks, and if the common folk knew how much a woman can ruin their lives by just saying "he was emotionally abusive", not even phisically. Also, since it is "a crime that happen indoors, just the accusation is enough to get you jailed they would never get in serious relationships.

About women being whores… You're asking the wrong guy. The only answer I can give to that question is "every women in every part of the world are whores".


 No.9261>>9273

>>9249

not in the article you posted nigger


 No.9273

>>9261

ddg it, nigger.


 No.9275>>12371

>>9256

Turning women into indentured cattle is what I want you can't keep your foot on the accelerator forever


 No.12209

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Relevant again because >>12094

Though it tells us all we needed to know. Fascism, eco- or otherwise, is very old; the idea that righteous violence for the greater good (through domestic cleansing, imperialism, etc.) can bring about peace has not materialized, and will never materialize, most likely. It is an accessory to violence that is not believed in any genuine capacity, only out of convenience: the communists do not wish to help the poor, they simply hate the wealthy; the nazis, whatever truly racist ones there were, did not really care about the purity of their race, only the removal of designated foreigners from their presence. It is a very common tool of violent people, to adopt an apparently gentle habit that does not interfere with their real desires (Hitler being a vegetarian who loved animals).

There is such a thing as just violence. Besides self-defense, defending the weak is admirable, and there is nothing morally wrong to it. When pondering violence, question whether it comes from a place of personal strength and a desire to create life and preserve beauty, or from a place of personal weakness that seeks to destroy and sacrifice the future to ease the pain of living in the present.


 No.12371

>>9275

>Turning women into indentured cattle

woke




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