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 No.6189 [Last50 Posts]>>6193 >>6195 >>6212 >>6213 >>6266 >>6268 >>6295 >>6371 >>6389 >>6469 >>6586 >>6718 >>6746 >>6783 >>6935 >>14179 >>14452 >>15190 >>15276 >>16918 >>19942 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

We are currently living in the absolute best time to ever be alive. With regards to standard of living, decline of global poverty, decline of genocide, epidemics, etc.

If you live in the US or Europe, you likely have a higher quality of life than the wealthiest person in the world did 100 years ago. You have drinkable water out of a tap. You have air conditioning and heat at home and in your car. You have hot water out of your faucet. You can fly across the world in a day, visit any country, culture, or monument. You can drive down around the city and eat cuisine from 50 different countries. You have medicine to cure most issues that would have killed you 100 years ago. You have access to entertainment in every form.

If you don't wake up every day thinking about how absolutely amazing and fortunate you are to be living in this time, then you're missing out on a lot of joy and gratitude.

Yea there's still a lot to fix, but even 50 years ago, most of the above benefits didn't exist. Be an optimist!

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 No.6193>>6393

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>>6189 (OP)

fuck off, Whig Historian.

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 No.6195

>>6189 (OP)

I think this is the best time to be alive when it comes to comfort, or standards of living but you have to keep in mind this comfort is what is ultimately poisoning us. We are not living in times when we have advanced technology enough to make electricity without ruining the environment, everything is getting buried under tons of concrete, forests are disappearing, society became totally alienated, everything has huge impact on our health, and so on. Not even speaking about politics and economy. Just because you have your iPhone it doesn't mean you won the historical comfort lottery. After reading this post I'm starting to believe this board should be only for people with IQ at least above 80 unironically and I purposefully said so low number.

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 No.6212

>>6189 (OP)

>We are currently living in the absolute best time to ever be alive. With regards to standard of living, decline of global poverty, decline of genocide, epidemics, etc.

no

>>6189 (OP)

>If you live in the US or Europe, you likely have a higher quality of life than the wealthiest person in the world did 100 years ago. You have drinkable water out of a tap. You have air conditioning and heat at home and in your car. You have hot water out of your faucet. You can fly across the world in a day, visit any country, culture, or monument. You can drive down around the city and eat cuisine from 50 different countries. You have medicine to cure most issues that would have killed you 100 years ago. You have access to entertainment in every form.

ah yeah the ol washing machines = happiness argument.

>>6189 (OP)

>Be an optimist!

*sigh

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 No.6213

>>6189 (OP)

well at least he included a selfie with this materialist drivel.

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 No.6214>>6218 >>6913

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>If you live in the US or Europe, you likely have a higher quality of life than the wealthiest person in the world did 100 years ago.

That's retarded.

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 No.6218

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 No.6235

thank you life coach-san

you changed my life and today I will be a different person

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 No.6266

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>>6189 (OP)

>life coach posting

>hides his flag

Schlomo got out of the oven and is farming (you)s again.

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 No.6267

Material quality of life is higher in many ways, but we don't have the familial or racial connection. I'm not sure being alienated is worth the trade off.

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 No.6268>>6359 >>14072

>>6189 (OP)

If your goal in life is to acquire more material goods and have access to more services, like every good goy should, then life is great. But I feel a need for meaning in my life; the only way I can truly apply myself is if I believe in what I am doing. Satiation of my desires for instant happiness is not enough. It may be for some people, who have tricked themselves into believing their modern soulless lives have meaning.

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 No.6291>>6359 >>14722

How is my life better?

No seriously, explain. Because my boomer faggot parents who I live with say this shit too. Well lemme correct that: my boomer faggot mother. Even my father doesn't say too much but agrees with her cause he's a cuck and needs her vindication. But she's an imbecile but acts like I'm supposed to heed her words like they came from God.

>Can't financially support myself despite how I work full time

Wow, talk about great standard of living fam. Those boomers got to afford a house and take care of kids on one salary. I can't even take care of myself. And the same people who know this hold it over my head "what would you do if we died?" Honestly probably be happier even if alot hungrier.

>Boomers got to enjoy stable relationships

Must be nice. I've fucked 30+ women. Where's my bitch to grow old with? It's not like I'm afraid of commitment or something. It's not like I'll only date super models. But nope, I'm expected to die alone ANNND work like a nigger. What a whiny millennial I am.

>All my friends have either overdosed in heroin, lost touch, or have their own problems

So the alienation is real. Don't talk to anyone at work where I spend the vast majority of my time, my friends are absent, can't obviously talk to.my parents about my feelings or problems despite how I live with these ignorant fuckers…

>Maybe I'll unwind shit posting online, oh wait banned

Can't even fucking make some boring ass memes to busy my mind because for one reason or another some child molesting moderator thinks it's their duty in life to ban me. Which btw my family isn't fond of me calling them child.molesting moderators and openly talking about this how I fucking doxx them.on the regular and hate them with the passion of a quasar that there is this entire group of people who wanna have the right to ban you but than when someone fucks up and posts child.porn or copyrighted material they don't wanna be liable. Cunt if cops find drugs in my car they're my drugs now. That's why I can invite who I want or dont want into my car. So either i want every website paying me loads of shekels for bans because they legally weren't supposed to be doing it, or I want them in jail on behalf of Isis, Russian hackers, child trafficking, drug deals, etc. So yes I am linguistically correct in calling them child molesting moderators. They molested those kids under the law. Just the way it works.

But getting off on a tangent…HOW IS MY LIFE GOOD.ANON still waiting

And at that I'm not an idiot. Some of the people here have it worse than I do. My job is actually fairly easy, I can get laid just not have a fulfilling relationship, some of these guys don't even have that.

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 No.6295>>6359 >>6392 >>14104 >>14707

>>6189 (OP)

Lets check in on how my nephew is fairing in this wonderful time of abundance. He's addicted to videogames. He couldn't put down his phone during his grandfather's funeral service and he fought his mom and wailed when she tried turn it on silent. He's a whiny obnoxious brat, because he has never known anything but abundance. His parents found him watching porn when he was 12. He watches youtube constantly. He's not autistic, not retarded; just a normal kid raised by shitty parents in a fucking hellhole of a culture.

Let's check in on my highschool gf. She overdosed and died while pregnant when she was 20.

My older brother goes through the ropes of a good goy's life and gets to live in a one bedroom apartment with a flat screen tv as a reward. He's proudly childfree, hasn't had a girlfriend in a decade plus and watches espn all day unless he's at his soulless office job. When I visit him I an barely even talk to him; He eats his meal in front of the tv with his mouth gaping. He is a shadow of a man. His definition of a good night is going to a sports bar for a finals match. His house is decorated with shitty autographed red sox paraphernalia. What a life.

All my irl 'friends' are twisted perverted self obsessed fucks who club non stop. They parrot these mindless platitudes "you do you, I'll do me" and "life was meant to be lived" to absolve themselves from any guilt from the degenerate things they do. Their entire lives are focused on sex. "Dude I had sex with this 18 year old girl last week and it was really special because she told me I was her first but she was fucking amazing dude." I doubt any of them have body counts below 100.

Life has no meaning anymore. Buy, consume, indulge; that's all people do. Human life has absolutely 0 fucking dignity. Look at abortion. Objectively you are ceasing a human being's life. That baby will no longer live. You are killing an unborn baby. "womans right to choose" "its technically not a human yet". It's all fucking lies. If any of these soulless cosmopolitans had 1/10 of the compassion they claimed then maybe they'd care about killing a fucking kid or maybe they'd think twice before backing america to go into another war which will kill millions. It's all a bunch of shit, nothing ever matters. Who gives a fuck anymore.

Sorry for the low quality post

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 No.6359

>>6268

>spends free time playing on computer

>when he has a wife at home

is this ledditor fucking retarded or something? you can spend meaningful time with someone and replace it with a screen?

>>6291

well, what is worse? crying on r9k how you are lonely or feeling lonely even amongst people. I guess the latter is worse.

but I understand you anon. The economy is fucked and boomers have the gall to laugh at us for beeing underachievers. They grew up in a walled garden, where jobs were protected and nobody wanted to undercut anyone. Then they just imported slave labour from 3rd world and wonder why we are writing 150 applications until we find a job (at the other side of the country).

>>6295

>low quality post

you wish. it is all true

Sorry for your high school gf. this should not happen to anyone.

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 No.6371

>>6189 (OP)

can't if low IQ post or high IQ bait post

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 No.6389>>6511 >>14010 >>14104

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>>6189 (OP)

1. The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.

2. The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine. Furthermore, if the system survives, the consequences will be inevitable: There is no way of reforming or modifying the system so as to prevent it from depriving people of dignity and autonomy.

3. If the system breaks down the consequences will still be very painful. But the bigger the system grows the more disastrous the results of its breakdown will be, so if it is to break down it had best break down sooner rather than later.

4. We therefore advocate a revolution against the industrial system. This revolution may or may not make use of violence; it may be sudden or it may be a relatively gradual process spanning a few decades. We can’t predict any of that. But we do outline in a very general way the measures that those who hate the industrial system should take in order to prepare the way for a revolution against that form of society. This is not to be a POLITICAL revolution. Its object will be to overthrow not governments but the economic and technological basis of the present society.

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 No.6390>>6511 >>14010

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THE POWER PROCESS

33. Human beings have a need (probably based in biology) for something that we will call the “power process.” This is closely related to the need for power (which is widely recognized) but is not quite the same thing. The power process has four elements. The three most clear-cut of these we call goal, effort and attainment of goal. (Everyone needs to have goals whose attainment requires effort, and needs to succeed in attaining at least some of his goals.) The fourth element is more difficult to define and may not be necessary for everyone. We call it autonomy and will discuss it later (paragraphs 42-44).

34. Consider the hypothetical case of a man who can have anything he wants just by wishing for it. Such a man has power, but he will develop serious psychological problems. At first he will have a lot of fun, but by and by he will become acutely bored and demoralized. Eventually he may become clinically depressed. History shows that leisured aristocracies tend to become decadent. This is not true of fighting aristocracies that have to struggle to maintain their power. But leisured, secure aristocracies that have no need to exert themselves usually become bored, hedonistic and demoralized, even though they have power. This shows that power is not enough. One must have goals toward which to exercise one’s power.

35. Everyone has goals; if nothing else, to obtain the physical necessities of life: food, water and whatever clothing and shelter are made necessary by the climate. But the leisured aristocrat obtains these things without effort. Hence his boredom and demoralization.

36. Nonattainment of important goals results in death if the goals are physical necessities, and in frustration if nonattainment of the goals is compatible with survival. Consistent failure to attain goals throughout life results in defeatism, low self-esteem or depression.

37, Thus, in order to avoid serious psychological problems, a human being needs goals whose attainment requires effort, and he must have a reasonable rate of success in attaining his goals.

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 No.6392

>>6295

Adorno, Fromm, Debord and the rest of The Frankfurt School all attested to this.

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 No.6393

>>6193

Historicism is a good philosophy though.

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 No.6395

>life is good because everything is catered to our whims and are constantly entertained

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 No.6469

>>6189 (OP)

And yet, people are still miserable, and they're killing themselves at unprecedented rates. I daresay, it's almost as if happiness cannot be owed to improved material conditions alone. It's almost like all of the people who've been saying that for literally thousands of years may have had a point.

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 No.6493>>6503 >>14104

The modern world has invented an amazing array of useless things in order to distract the average person of the empty void that is their lives. One hundred years ago, people didn't have many of the luxuries that we have, however they had things like family, community, and a chance to succeed, which the vast majority of us do not and never will have. Are things like Facebook, video games, and fast food worth it?

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 No.6495>>16665

And yet suicide and deaths of despair are more prevalent than ever. Weird eh? I guess we're all just emo faggots amirite?

Suck start a shotgun btw.

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 No.6503

>>6493

No, it's the same deluded ideology that when the world is reduced to nothing and we are infinitely comfortable we'll in turn be infinitely happy.

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 No.6511>>6926

>>6389

>>6390

TK was truly a visionary, R.I.P.

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 No.6586>>6643 >>6865

>>6189 (OP)

bs you stupid nigger. Genocide and war are historically only escalating (you are in the pre war period you stupid shit) suicide and drug abuse are at an all time high. Stupid whig commie faggots like you are the worst

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 No.6589

You don't need to appreciate to be happy.

You can be happy that those things exist but can everyone say that they enjoy them? Can you enjoy everything on this list?

Stop being a fag.

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 No.6643>>6663

>>6586

to be fair, liberalism is not communism. at all.

in fact, you're right but at the same time its capitalism and jews doing this shit. to create this mess.

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 No.6663>>6865

>>6643

>implying communism has nothing to do with jews

polpot fan boy GTFO

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 No.6678>>6684

>>6675

and another piece of wisdom

so many good things I found here already

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 No.6684>>6865

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>>6678

thank this man.

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 No.6718>>6836

>>6189 (OP)

Stagnation leads to degradation and you burgers have been living on putrid water ever since Kennedy was killed.

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 No.6746

>>6189 (OP)

Oh anon, you know we've reached the end of the (((peak))), didn't you know?

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 No.6783>>6787 >>6862

>>6189 (OP)

lolno.

centrism is dead. you're either a nazi or a marx-lenninist fanboy. social media has ruined us.

pedophilia is now acceptable. people think being third genders with retarded pronouns is ok. islamic terrorists blowing up people is ok because they're just 'following their religion'.

wouldn't be surprised of a third world war in the next 10 years.

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 No.6787

>>6783

And why this is a good thing, >>>click here to read more

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 No.6836>>6911

>>6718

can't argue with that. of course columbia aint jack shit and never was so…

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 No.6862

>>6783

what if you're both?

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 No.6865

>>6586

actually it was Hegel, who strangely inspired Marx that said "War Is Progress, Peace Is Stagnation"

>>6663

no, make me Dick Land gottem

>>6684

good writer. though I heard Man And Technics was ripped off by Kaczinsky.

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 No.6911>>14080

>>6836

"Colombia" is growing stronger, not in any way good natured people belonging to worthy societies would want to, but thanks to escobar and the disgusting constitutional legacy he left behind we are once again becoming relevant thanks to misdeeds done by "my nationals" both locally and abroad.

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 No.6913

>>6214

I know that second image is supposed to evoke feelings of disgust but it gives me a nostalgic feeling, although I didn't have half as much trash

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 No.6926

>>6511

He's still alive

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 No.6935

>>6189 (OP)

If you consider the only thing that constitutes a good time to be alive the accessibility and convenience of modern life then sure.

But if you consider literally everything else such as the ability to function in this "society" and living a natural life with a family, this is one of the worse and its only going to get worse

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 No.6949>>6956

You are forgetting something very important OP:

Existence is a nigger

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 No.6956

>>6949

you forgot something even more important:

winona is a jewess

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 No.14010>>14012 >>14026

>>6389

>>6390

Luddite spotted. While i agree with almost everything he says, i am not at all convinced, that technology is to blame. The retarded humanist ideology "the only meaning of the Universe as a whole and individual human life in particular is satisfying our every stupid whim" is, imho, the only culprit. Civilizations fell because of similar kind of degenaracy long before the steam engine. If the "economic and technological basis" will be destroyed, then the west will die anyway. Case in point - Ancient Rome, Greece, etc. That is of course if we think that it the reason for the fall and not the consequence. There are theories that countries/nations/civilizations are like humans: they are born, grow, reach its peak, degenerate and die the same way a human body would do. So, maybe socialism and its byproducts are signs of a dying body like wrinkles or cancer.

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 No.14012>>14014

>>14010

>the only meaning of the Universe as a whole and individual human life in particular is satisfying our every stupid whim

Isn't this relatively "new" idea though? Didn't it started with humanism? T brainlet

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 No.14014>>14582

>>14012

The idea itself is as old as humanity. It was simply structurised and reformed into a legit mainstream philosophy instead of being a fringe degenerate thinking. Such ideologies were localized in the past and so only local societies have fallen. Fall of Rome haven't meant shit to Ancient China or India, and was unnoticed outside of mediterranean region and Europe. Right now however with the world globalised this cancer can't be quoranteened and thus spreads like a goddamn plague everywhere. Because most people have little to no consciousness and as long as they can be as degenerate as possible while still claiming moral superiority they won't seriously think for a second about the next generation or the world at large. TLDR: Anthropocentrism always existed and always was shit.

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 No.14026>>14027 >>14037 >>14059 >>14104

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>>14010

The best argument that Technology IS to blame is as follows:

Advances in technology have

>Increased worker productivity

which

<reduces the need for a large labor force of skilled professionals

<increased the amount of leisure time

<driven the expansion of urban centers

>medical advances have increased life expectancy/reduced infant mortality/kept alive people who would have otherwise died

which has

<increased the retirement age and reduced wages of following generations

<caused a population explosion in Africa

<enabled the HIV epidemic to stop culling degenerates

<essentially halted evolution

>Advances in social media/communication have

<made a generation of vapid social media users whose worst qualities and drives are rewarded (e.g. instagram thots praised for sluttiness)

<created a world where work follows you home (cell phones/email/etc.)

<drastically reduced public socialization (pubs, community areas, etc.) in favor of online interaction

>technology with respect to corporations has

<destroyed the small business brick and mortar store (amazon et al)

<centralized communication and censored users (google, twitter facebook)

Society has suffered under your technological "advancement," Uncle Ted was right.

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 No.14027>>14031

>>14026

also, quality of work has degraded greatly. The more low tech the work, the more meaningful it seems. How many people have jobs where it is mostly sending emails, writing spreadsheets or other such tedium? Compare this with planting a field or building a table, simple tasks with tangible, practical rewards.

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 No.14031>>14104

>>14027

Also, technology is largely responsible for women's role in the workplace and leisure activities as instead of washing, cleaning and cooking, they get to shit up all the stuff men used to do in their free time.

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 No.14037>>14039

>>14026

I'm not sure but I think german here said something like "technology is the symptom but anthropocentrism is the illness". I don't think if he is that much wrong but I'm not philosopher.

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 No.14039>>14040 >>14059 >>14104

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>>14037

It could be construed as anthropocentrism, but it is largely the result of the unintelligent masses being capitalized upon/led astray by "the powers that be" (media/material oligarchs) given people's natural interest in themselves. For this reason I would call it consumerist individualism rather than anthropocentrism. Anthropocentrism is the idea that humans are the most important thing, modern culture is moreso about "I am the most important thing" there is no real altruism unless that altruism is recognized by others and attributed to the individual. People have always been this way, but technology has made it worse. I agree technology is not inherently bad, but it should be available only where and when it improves the world, rather than everywhere at once.

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 No.14040>>14059

>>14039

To clarify, I believe that people will never segregate technology to only where it is needed and does good, so being a luddite is the only real way to remove the bad aspects of technology in our society.

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 No.14047>>14051

If I was a Jew with a 700K checking account I'd agree with you.

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 No.14051

>>14047

what's with people not quoting? are you replying to the OP?

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 No.14059

>>14039

>>14040

So basically Brotherhood of Steel kind of thing. This i can get behind.

>>14026

Problems you mentioned are mostly caused by retarded application of technology. The most glaring examples are medicine (genetic engineering and eugenics ftw) and communications (instantaneous access to any information and ability to communicate with anyone on the planet, just like we are doing right now). As for worker productivity - i admit the complete inability of most people to apply their energy and time for something productive. But it is entirely possible to find something interesting to do even if it is not the work on a factory or a farm. Again all the issues stem from the "humans are the only thing that matters and defines the world" line of thinking, which is only one step away from "my own physical and psychological comfort is the most important thing in the existence". It was always like that and it will always be like that, technology or not, since it is a part of basic human nature.

Also i am not german, just using proxy. Sorry for confusion, will hide country from now on.

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 No.14072

>>6268

I'd say even materially we've more or less been fucked. Sure if you're fabulously rich and Jewish you're spending time in some of the most interesting places in the world, reveling in Marvels of technology, enjoying the fastest cars ever designed, etc.

But the rest of us are eating our fourth fucking burrito and getting paid peanuts to live in apartments with thin walls.

Something went horribly wrong.

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 No.14080

>>6911

You still have cartels dude but most people want Americans to die because they think the opinions of our celebrities/ceos/political leaders = regular Joe's but that's ok. Whatever.

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 No.14102>>14104

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Explain this, brain dead NPC:

Quality life aspects:

My grandfather 90 years ago worked as a bread maker, he was not even the owner of the bakery, married, had 7 children and purchased a urban zone decent sized land in a major city, constructed 5 houses for his 5 older children and the other 2 constructed houses themselves, today i live in one of those houses near my cousins. My grandfather had guns and didn't pay one cent to the government for it, my grandfather had small crops in his house, (he planted and consumed his own coffee because already at his time the best products made in this shithole were sent overseas) my grandfather had a car and didn't pay one cent to the government for it, my father and his brothers were educated at home and at church, 2 engineers, 1 judge, 2 housewives and 1 office worker. At the same time subhuman niggers started stealing lands and creating modern time tribes called "favelas", most of them never worked and the only thing most of them always did was steal, kill and rape decent people, some time after they started selling drugs. Every favelado was and is a uneducated gimmedat, what he doesn't get from the government he steals from someone, and as their nigger natures implies the only culture they have is to be a uncivilized subhuman, while the jew fabricate some media personnel on music and movies to tell you that they are the same as you.

Today i need to work solely to pay taxes and usury, almost everyone have 20% of salary deduct as part of income tax, (yes, only a part) plus 8% ~ 16% to social security, both obligatory, anyone here that have a small sized propriety need to pay something around 5000-15000 US dollars equivalent yearly as a land tax depending the location. All the guns my grandfather had were taken by the ZOG, the crops are impossible to grow because of all the poison they spread through out the city to "kill mosquitoes", (the same mosquitoes that 20 years ago transmitted only 2 diseases, dengue and yellow fever that always was under control, only existing on favelas, now chicungunha and zika appeared OUT OF NOWHERE some years ago having outbreaks every year) to drive a car here you need to pay a driving school, the fees are around 1000 US dollars, to have a car you need to pay a vehicle specific tax, its 3% ~ 4% of the vehicles value, a 2019 corolla for example is worth R$ 100.000, (brazilian minimal wage is R$ 998) equal to U$ 30.0000, it needs around R$ 4000 yearly on tax, something about U$ 1500, after 4 years of life the government obliges your kid to attend a shitty subversive (((school))), filled with homosexuality, favela nigger culture, thought control and the shamming of christian people and anyone with common sense, if you don't agree with the subversive university teachers and political organizations related, you are expelled or imprisoned depending on the case. Favelados pay nothing for all the stolen land, they also steal electricity and water distribution, most of their income is from welfare paid with my taxes, drug dealing and favela culture like brazilian funk, shit rap and prostitution, since almost anything they do is legal there is no tax, they have smuggled firearms to support all of the robbery and assassinations they commit everyday, although they have stolen land to cultivate food, all they do it's fill every space, including rivers and forest, with trash and waste, the only vehicles used are motorbikes, most of them are stolen, favelados go to (((schools))) and (((universities))), in fact we even have quotas for niggers on universities, since they have a IQ lower then 80 the level of education is extremely low, most of time teaching how to be offended by anything and how systemic racism is the reason for everything bad.

Do you know what is this, /doomer/? Subversion, just plain war cultural subversion. Did you red this text? It's literally a crime do say or think something along these lines, to relate reality is a crime, we have all kinds of laws to suppress rationality common sense, (((racism))) that also have parts related to (((xenofobia))) and (((religious discrimination))), laws against online (((discrimination of woman))), (((feminicide))), etc… ZOG control is bigger than ever, (((democracies))) are the biggest enslaving systems ever created, our good goy bolsonaro already went to China to use their face recognition system while the credit system is rising from (((mainstream internet social media))). We are in the biggest human war ever, i didn't even talked about 1/10 of everything happened until now, christian religions being attacked from the inside, mental disabilities being ,

>muh, jungle nigger

Eurafrica and Cuckda has reached this level of kikeness before us and the United Cuckstates is quickly becoming a subhuman country.

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 No.14104>>14177

>>14102

>mental disabilities being motivated.

Fix'd.

>>6295

Society deliberate subversion is to blame for all of this.

>>6389

Wrong, technological advancements couldn't be maleficent to individual humans or to society by themselves, this is a fallacy, what is happening is that the jew and his agents are using recent technologies with the intent of control, to destroy liberties, to eradicate the truth. Your way of thinking is the same when (((they))) say that guns are bad:

>people use guns to kill other people

<guns are bad

>the jew is using new technology to attack western culture

<technology is bad

>>6493

Same above, you are in a illusion.

>>14026

There is no problem in the first example.

Retirement is a personal choice outside sports, only being affected by economy depending on the chosen investment, example: If you spend less on your working period you can retire sooner than someone that someone that spent 2x more or retire at the same time but with more money. Population explosion on Africa is result of (((international political actions))), technology was used, but it only changed it's efficiency. About the HIV, that is true, really is sad.

What you called "advances" in social media was a cultural change made by subversion, the creation of instruments is not to blame.

The cult towards corporations is political media brain wash, caused mainly by the choices made on the "smart"phones shitty market, where uneducated people were introduced to media exposition 100% of the time on the (((mainstream internet))). Mobile computing devices were used, but they are not to blame.

>>14031

No, this is cultural as well, Saudi Arabia don't have a married woman workforce.

>>14039

How this phenomenon can have "individualism" on it's name when everything related is social in every aspect? Since decades ago we have been exposed to (((marxist))) ideologies and (((corporatism))) through (((democracies))) and (((fascism))), i can't see anything that appeals to individualism, in fact, it is completely opposed.

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 No.14113>>14114 >>14126 >>14145

>Today i need to work solely to pay taxes and usury,

This is why I quit working anon

Honest work is for cucks and suckers

Real men are either crimos or gamblers

We should team up with colombia-san and get this cocaine JOINT-venture going.

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 No.14114>>14145

>>14113

Call me if you want to expand into the US. I'm close to the border and it's damn near impossible to get the real stuff out here so we would make a killing.

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 No.14120

>when an internet forum site for failed romantics and hopeless youngsters turns into the breeding ground for the next multi billion dollar cocaine trafficking enterprise and normalshits start reporting on this phenomenon to the degree of triggering hollywood kikes to make a movie about us and capitalise on our tales

Ryder Cartel

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 No.14126

>>14113

>Real men are either crimos or gamblers

icycalm knew this.

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 No.14145>>14163

>>14113

I'm going to live in the wild, there are many biomes here to choose. Even if i gonna probably die from dysentery shitting my guts out, starve to death or something dumb like that i going to be free from these chains, i got to do it while there are still time, it's not going to take a lot of time until vigilance is 100% efficient, soon i going to burn all my documents, maybe my house too, and disappear.

>>14114

Living in a US border and can't have access to drugs? What?

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 No.14162

>decline of global poverty and genocide

Tell that to Africa, southeast Asia, and South America you faggot mongoloid.

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 No.14163

>>14145

Yeah believe it or not most cocaine in America is actually just amphetamines mixed with an opiate. If we do get any real stuff here in the South then it gets all used up here and never makes it up North because all I ever hear from my older Gen X friends in the North is that the coke days are over and the real stuff hasn't been available since '92.

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 No.14177

>>14104

>i can't see anything that appeals to individualism, in fact, it is completely opposed.

Do you mean self sufficiency? If you do not, you are missing some things.

You should also consider that while the jews/media/whatever are leading people astray, it's still what people want. It is just glorifying and promoting bad/self centered behavior.

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 No.14179

>>6189 (OP)

You materialistic nigger.

Nowadays it's almost impossible to have 6 to 10 children with good standard of living and education. The generation of my grandparents were able to do it very successfully, they could have as many land as they would be able to work on and, in very few years, they built many of our cities out of tropical jungle (it's the worst terrain as possible to build and transport stuff, since we barely can use our rivers for transport), even though they came to Brazil bringing nothing of material value, even got thrown in debt for being transported to America, and came to be used as slaves (nips and luigis; I'm not talking about niggers).

To make things worse, we barely can find a good adult woman to marry and the young ones are getting corrupted more and more as time passes. Nowadays most people, even though deep down they know it's the right thing, they would take as a joke if you would demand virginity and just a small amount of submissiveness. They would take as a joke if you'd say you want more than 2 kids. They would take as a joke if you took traditional catholic religious values instead of protestant shit (spread to us by Masons) or their idiot atheistic artificial values.

How are we living in the "best time" if we can't raise our kids as we want, and, if we try, we are getting sent to jail? How are we living in the "best time" if there's barely any good woman to marry with? How are we living in the best time if having more than 2 kids is so troublesome no one are having them?

The fertility rate here is around 1.2 kids per native woman. Our cities only get bigger because of waves of immigrants who come from North to South. Our IQ is acceleratingly dropping and Brazil is the country that loses it more quickly due internal migrations only. It's hell and it's getting worse.

Republican masons emasculated our people, brainwashed them into thinking Democracy is some higher value and there's none of it outside of our political system, dominated now by socdems - who are trying their best to bring Haitians and Venezuelans to make us even shittier. State kiked totalitarianism's become the norm. Everything is centered around materialism or victimhood, and our legal system is completely, and intentionally, bloated so the "victims of society" (criminals) are overprotected. If we try to change our laws and retarded bloated Constitution, we are taken as criminals by the legal system.

I'm more enslaved now than the generation of my grandgrandparents and above, who had just come here to be used in place of the lazy freed niggers. And it's not a matter of situational "slavery" but rather it's an institutionalized one, where everyone is slave to niggers and chastes of subversives.

It's way harder to own lands now than it was before and it's way harder to keep your kids in a straight path as well. It's way way harder to educate them in the best way, as our schools are leveled down BY LAW to nigger levels. You will be thrown in jail if you tell your daughter to don't mix herself with niggers and tell basic "red pill" knowledge any of my parents were able to do. You will be thrown in jail if you demand your son to "be a man". I can't even fish and hunt anywhere I want, for fuck's sake. I will be a criminal if I do so.

Keep in mind I'm talking about Brazil as a Southern Brazilian and I know there's worse institutionalized crap out there. I know we are a reflex of the rest of the world as well.

So… Do we really live in the "absolute best time ever to be alive"?

We live in the most retarded era. An era where entire nations are suiciding themselves moved by subversion. An era where men can't find good women and barely can have any kids, a basic thing for the survival of our kind. An era good values, knowledge and culture are being destroyed and replaced by their inverse. An era our religion is being replaced by something alien to us, or replaced completely by nihilistic materialism.

An era of generalized slavery, of suicide and of eternal death.

May God have mercy and help us.

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 No.14351

Existence is the only thing that can possibly justify positivity in our lives, but there is an argument for even existence being the most terrible thing in our lives. I constantly feel like my head is spinning thinking about this stuff. Wanting to do well in school and make my family proud to have me as a part of it but also feeling stuck inside this box of existential isolation that tears at me day and night as it first was an entertaining thing to experience different worldviews and abstraction, but soon enough the world becomes a nightmare that you don't wake up from. This may sound like exaggeration at first, but when you're so opened to the truth and start attempting to process all this shit it starts to get very overwhelming. Life is kind of like hurrying to shit on the toilet with someone yelling at you but your shit won't come out fast enough and you're trying and it fucking sucks and then once you're all done taking a shit and forcing your organs down into your rectum by the force of your ass trying to lower your body's shit content, you check the toilet paper and you're down to the fucking cardboard.

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 No.14352>>14358

You've been throughly brainwashed by the jews to masturbate to money, never before in western history have things been as bleak as it is right now.

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 No.14358>>14373

>>14352

Weimar had families openly prostituting their own just to afford food. It's really fucking awful, but you're simply incorrect in saying it's the worst it's ever been.

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 No.14372

OP is a house nigger debt slave.

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 No.14373>>14394

>>14358

I hate to break it to you, but in many former great western nations this is already happening.

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 No.14394>>14405

>>14373

Ok jew, the Ukraine literally committed cannibalism due to your oppressive policies. It's not that bad yet, but I'm sure you want it to be.

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 No.14405>>14406 >>14407

>>14394

Poverty is overcome with time and doesn't happen everywhere. Even though the hunger and gomminism were hard on Ukrainians, they have overcome that. It's ridiculous how "easy" is our life right now and how at same time it's getting to a bad, almost inescapable, ending. The very opposite from that Ukraine.

What we have now is an accelerating and omnipresent extermination of what we love and what we are, and it looks like there's no way to reverse it. It's a cult of suicide and death aimed for our people, not only for our civilization as a whole, but for all of its peoples. It's our imminent doom awaiting for us. Everything our ancestors have worked for, to survive and to pass on to their children. Everything. Destroyed and despised to be demonized in the future.

There's no worse thing to a man than feeling powerless, emasculated, while what he was supposed to protect crumbles before him. That's what take men to suicide. Nothing more fitting to the Age of Suicide we are in.

While I haven't still lost my hope on a bright future, everything points out to our extermination. That's where things are moving and accelerating into. It's harder and harder to have any hope as the "future" gets bleaker.

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 No.14406

>>14405

And the only thing you have to do is stand up and give the jews the middle finger. If you commit suicide, that's basically admitting that you're a weak faggot and that the jews won.

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 No.14407>>14413

>>14405

You underestimate slavs. Say word "genocide" around balkans and you will have internet war instantly bringing up injustices in that area back to fucking stone age. Ukrainians didn't forgot about the past either, it's stigma on a nation which will last forever and again, they are killing each other because superpowers have to have their playgrounds of blood. Such is life in buffer zone. Be smarter.

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 No.14413>>14415

>>14407

I at least hope that kind of stigma can work on the favor of your southern neighborhood like a vaccine, avoiding the silent genocide that's very likely going to happen to the West and probably to the East in Russia as well. Let's see how the native populations will decrease in the future on these different areas.

(By the way, are you safe up there from Mohammedans' immigration? Down here we have more problems with internal migration; memezuelan immigrating is like they are pissing in a sea of piss. The upside here is we still have vast areas of empty isolated land to colonize and our immigrants don't behave like rapidly reproducing plagues. But your fertility rate looks better than mine.)

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 No.14415>>14461

>>14413

>By the way, are you safe up there from Mohammedans' immigration?

Depends which countries. Migrants want to go to rich countries like germany, france, UK, etc. There were numerous routes during migrant crisis. One went through balkan: greece->serbia. Serbian police was accused of robbing and beating the migrants, so then when they reached hungary or croatia, forces promptly put them on train to western countries and that was it (I think they were unloading them in Austria but when austria had enough, trains were going straight to germany). In Bulgaria some people were hunting them down on borders (literally) so they avoided route through Bulgaria if possible. One route went through Italy as we know and also there was one I think via north, somewhere through russia or finland? I'm not sure. So far nobody wants to live in eastern europe because you won't survive with money from government even 1 week, so even if you catch them and put to camps, they just escape to west. So far so good but it's getting worse, I have no hope that if this will progress, we will have them even here. The problem is even that middle east is not the only source. Russia has a lot muslims from countries like Chechnya. Maybe the last stronghold will be Belarus? or Poland?, who knows. Also there were some rumors that Bosnia is again source of muslim extremism in Europe and a lot Bosniaks joined ISIS and vice versa - a lot middle eastern extremists came to Bosnia, don't know if this is verified info or not. Civic nationalism kills western Europe and young people on east are becoming more progressive. Just because we are not flooded with migrants right now doesn't mean we won't be in near future.

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 No.14452

>>6189 (OP)

>If you live in the US or Europe

>even 50 years ago, most of the above benefits didn't exist

Can you please tell us which benefits didn't exist ? Literally the only one I can think about would be Internet and computers, and the more I spend time on it, the more I think it has been a disaster for society.

Apart from Internet, everything else was already a thing in 1970 (50 years ago), be it tap water, air conditioning, heat, hot water, planes, cars, correct medicine (though I must admit it keeps getting better and better), entertainment.

Within 50 years we lost much more than we gained as a society. Literally 1 out of 85 europeans relying on antidepressants, divorce rate tearing the roof up, financial crisis and so on.

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 No.14461>>14468

>>14415

>Serbian police was accused of robbing them migrants

>accused

lol, if you knew what our pigs are doing

BTW, I read another fun story about some taxi driver. Some arabis came to him, asking him to drive them to Subotica (border town on the border with Hungary). The fine gentleman just took a table and wrote "Subotica" on it, placed it next to some road and drove them there. Then he charged them 800€ for nothing. Betrugo economy is florishing one taxi driver scammed me out of 10$ once but fuck it, I just wanted to get fast to hotel

>Bosnia is again source of muslim extremism in Europe and a lot Bosniaks joined ISIS and vice versa

The jihadis never left. They were imported in the 90s to fight in the civil wars. After the war they were allowed to stay. Then Saudi Barbaria started buying up land and giving it away to Wahabi sects. Also funding already established Wahabis. Those then recruited people into being wahabis and paid them money to do so.

Today you have entire Wahabi zones where they bullied out any nonconforming people. We often joke that regular Bosnians will have worse war with the Wahabis compared to Serbians. But Albania is the same. Many jihadis waiting to let out some steam. Entire balkans region is once again ready for a big spectacle

>divorce rate tearing the roof up

tbh from a accelerationist point of view this is perfect.

Let the cuckbois learn it the hard way and let them pay the bill while at the same time gaining nothing. Let women waste 20 years in the corporate rat race only to find out they wanted to have families. This entire

>nobody marrying -> nobody wasting money on dating -> nobody buying houses -> nobody buying cars -> nobody buying pampers

will be very interesting phenomenon because it will fuck up the economy even deeper

History has shown that change in society only occurs when an ever-increasing number of men is unhappy with their environment. Maybe we just need this to trigger the change into a better society.

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 No.14468>>14474 >>14586

>>14461

>Then he charged them 800€ for nothing

Pretty based if you ask me. But when it comes to taxi driver scamming you, I think that's the issue everywhere. In some countries they are organized criminals, literally.

>They were imported in the 90s to fight in the civil wars.

I know about this but I thought they maybe left when times got calmer. Maybe back to middle east because another wars or to west for some good ol' terrorism.

>We often joke that regular Bosnians will have worse war with the Wahabis compared to Serbians.

Are you from balkan by any chance? I'm kind of sensing you might be by how you phrase your sentences. I don't really buy into "peace in balkan because EU" either. All that it takes to bring back there war is just little spark, even though generations changed, people have it in themselves. Time will tell but brotherly wars never bring any good, especially among slavs since they are not really hesitant to kill each other. We still have Ukraine going. About Albania I know only they will kidnap you and steal your organs so i avoid it.

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>>14468

of course I am

>peace in balkan

>ever

this is the best meme ever and EU will one day understand that multiculturalism does not work. It will happen when the economy slows down and people start having it worse. People will accuse each other of being the cause of the problems and naturally tribal mentality of humans will ensure they kill each other

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 No.14492

>>14474

>pic

This is gold.

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 No.14529>>14628 >>14666

>>14474

Would you advice me to visit Montenegro or Slovenia? t. wants to run off to mountains

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 No.14582

>>14014

This isn't the first time we've had globalism. It's been tried before and collapsed in a very similar manner. Get a fucking clue Kraut.

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 No.14586

>>14468

In the UK the taxis are all run by muslims who get the jobs to work as sex traffickers. They use the taxi services to run young girls around to get gang raped. It's an easy cover.

The Jihadis won't leave Western nations until things completely collapse. They have no interest in wiping their ass with sand and camel spit. And ultimately they have the training, funding and smuggling connections to do well in any sort of mass conflict. They can definitely take territory and declare it a nation while everyone else is fighting for survival.

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 No.14592

>best time to be alive because muh material goods

>community and relationships with neighbours doesn’t matter

>just get more instagram followers

>reliance and purpose don’t matter

>just buy something

>having to work to get heat or food or water is shit

>just pay your bills and get it delivered to your door

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 No.14628

>>14529

Austria has the most beautiful mountains

Switzerland is overrated as fuck and too expensive

But yeah slovenia is good too.

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 No.14666>>14681

>>14529

your money will go farther in Montenegro. it is actually not very densely populated and is still less developed (in a good way) than many other places. Slovenia is a better functioning country though with less crime (and fewer shiptars). depends what you're looking for.

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 No.14681>>14845

>>14666

>depends what you're looking for

I'm looking for off-grid cheap place (some people use word shithole), preferably out of EU cancerzone and not bordering with Russia. I'm just fantasizing, that's all, I'm getting old and likelihood for me moving yet again is going very low. I have good memories about balkan though, I liked it down there.

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 No.14704>>14705

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>standard of living

Everything is more expensive except for televisions and smartphones. Smartpho>>6189

nes are just normal phones except for tonnes of garbage apps and a connection to an increasingly cheapened internet, along with premium costs to access that internet plus a worse interface that a keyboard and mouse, which were invented decades ago. Smartphones are still more expensive than plain phones. Everything is designed to break down just after the warranty expires, which is a few years tops.

>decline of global poverty

Every poor country that recieves our money in whatever form responds by upping reproduction rates or else just funnelling it into their already affluent and decadant ruling class.

>decline of genocide

Hot genocide, as opposed to the cold genocide occuring in Europe and the US.

>epidemics

People have been more unwell than they've ever been.

>If you live in the US or Europe, you likely have a higher quality of life than the wealthiest person in the world did 100 years ago.

Food is mass produced and mass manufactured according to industrial techniques counter with elemental nutrition, We are served heapings of muscle meat without the skin, organ meats or connective tissue of the animals they come with, and we have deficiencies in glycine relative to cysteine and tryptophan. Animals are fed and sustained by diets that do not resemble the requirements of their digestive tracts. We are encouraged to eat veggies that our bodies do not need and do not crave, including vast amounts of watery lettuces that are rarely washed correctly if at all. Water itself is encouraged in mass intake despite its high prescence in all our foods beside artificial dried-out box foods, the body automatically rendering it from energy production, and its simple harmful effects in overdose by thinning blood and leading to the excretion of nutrients. Fruits are picked unripened off the tree and then artificially "ripened" with chemicals on-shelf so they look ripe, but have half the nutrients. When this is unsatisfying, we are proffered artificial refined white cane sugar and high fructose corn syrup. When this gives us acne, we are encouraged to eat starchy carbs in bulk to stretch out our intestinal lining and induce symptoms of schizophrenia from the endocrinological effects of gluten. Some people die from this alone. We are encouraged to drench all of this in polyunsaturated fats and avoid saturated fats, despite the former's link with massive hypothyroidism and estrogernic effects and the latter's countering effects. We are told that polyunsaturates are essential oils despite the bodies ability to make effective substitutes from regular foods. Our clothing and upholstery are made from artificial textiles with allergenic properties. Everything about our person and property is kept clean with antibacterials that hurt us as much as the germs without properly ridding us of the germs either.

>You have drinkable water out of a tap

Filled with fluoride, and despite the proclamations of its elimination, loopholes mean many in the first world stick drink water from lead pipes.

>You have air conditioning

Only in America

>and heat at home

In homes designed for poor insulative properties, at the cost of destroying the earth's natural gas reserves and at an increasingly steep price.

>and in your car

Which the structure and layout of civic centres and jobs demands that you own and maintain in order to make more than lower six figures. Increasingly large numbers of adults, especially the young, do not own cars due to the increasing costs. Cars are also infinitely less interesting and more boring to drive on clogged roads with safety features based on the padding instinct used to swaddle small children, and have no value as a pleasure pursuit outside of extravagant purchases unavailable to the populace.

>You can fly across the world in a day

To visit other first world countries as bug-ridden as our own, or third world countries without any controls on their disorder, at an increasing pricetag and a reckless destruction of fuel reserves, and all the while subjecting oneself to one of the most degrading and pathetic death risks imagineable.

>You can drive down around the city

Increasingly slowly through clogged traffic in the back of a taxi driven by a minor peon of a child trafficking ring

>eat cuisine from 50 different countries

40 of which are composed of "basic meat, starchy slop and a spice", 6 of which are other basic first world foods, 3 of which are France, Italy and Japan and 1 of which is what passes for your own "native" cuisine. All deepfried in vegetable oil, full of nightshades and musclemeats and served with hops at a marked-up price. Enjoy the service - not that you could get a job doing that yourself.

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 No.14705>>14708

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>>14704

>You have medicine to cure most issues that would have killed you 100 years ago

Through anti-bodies that decrease in efficacy every year and careless vaccinations that prevent a small chance of later infection in return for a lifelong drop in mental and immune fitness. Most medical interventions affect newborns that would've died in previous eras, without curing the fundamental problem that would've killed them, resulting in an increase in physiologically weak and disabled individuals that cannot improve their own lives or the lives of others. Meanwhile 100 new medical issues arise from the dietary deficits, overprescription of SSRIs, reckless antibodies and vaccinations, lack of control over the third world, beta blockers, proton pump inhibitors affecting the digestive tract, massive push to prescribe artificial estrogen over thyroid hormone or basic androgens, and the increasingly general stress of living in an increasing false and demanding world where power is held in secretive and unnaccountable hands and every democratic election is an opportunity to rob people more while they're distracted fighting each other.

>You have access to entertainment in every form.

Crass, mindless entertainment that only forgives when it's forgiving the political allies of its makers and only cruel when its targetting its enemies, and is generally neither and amounts to the intellectual equivalent of slop.

If you don't wake up every day thinking about how absolutely cornered, deprive and fooled you and your contemporaries have been since generations before you were born, you've been lucky enough to stumble from situation to situation in life without being forced to encounter and examine its realities. Senseless positivity and "gratitude" towards a social, economic and ecological climate that does nothing but take, decieve and let down out of sheer fecklessness is mindlessness, ignorance or masochism in order of likelihood. Forgiveness can only come after a fitting - in this instance substantial - dose of criticism and cruelty towards the insufficient party.

>Yea there's still a lot to fix

There was little to fix in the first place.

>Be an optimist!

Aside from all of the above of points: "being" anything, putting yourself willing into a box, means restricting yourself for no reason. Being optimistic is infinitely superior to being "an optimist". Optimism means recognising that no climate cannot be improved by giving it the right balance of savaging and loving to correct its errors. We can save this world with a little brain and a little backbone.

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 No.14707>>14708

>>6295

Not low quality at all, entirely on point.

The notions put forward in the OP make sense if and only if the selfish individual just wants to "survive" as securely as possible. The design principles and priorities of circa 2019 are a disguised form of subsistence lower than a peasant serf's living standards. Eventually humanity will reduce to the level of a yeast-like slime or mold slop, reproducing and spreading with ever increasing efficiency at a cost of everything else. If this horrifies you, then you get that merely "living" means nothing. Our world is deficient in glory.

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 No.14708>>14711 >>14720

>>14705

Chronically ill people aren't living much better than they would 50 years ago. Medication is still poorly understood and the people who hand it out know about as much as they would of back then. Except now you're lucky if they can speak English

>>14707

People don't survive these conditions though. It leads to suicide and poor health. Look at obesity.

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 No.14711

>>14708

Precisely true re: medicine.

>People don't survive these conditions though

They make to their fifties, which is "survival" enough for some double digit IQ type. Like our technology and infrastructure, people are being optimised to be short-term and disposable. The aim is absolutely fungibility of all resources, resulting in a world of mold. Lemmings fall for it and indeed originate and further it because they have little to no perception of the fundamental glory of the universe. Only basic comforts and securities, which they will do anything to shore up. Hence the monetary and material wealth arguments proffered in OP.

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 No.14720>>14851 >>14865

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>>14708

Medication would have been cheaper if there was no copyright to give any company a monopoly on a certain drug. That would have led to HUGE advances in innovation with drug research being shared.

There's also the thing with companies having the ability to sell shitty drugs that disable people and cause other illnesses and they will not pay reperation to the victims because "we did everything according to the rules, the government gave us the license so we aren't resonsible".

As usual, everything is fucked up when the gov gets involved.

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 No.14722

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>>6291

This. OP has a delusional boomer mindset.

We're living in a world where you're reduced to being a consumer. You go to your fucking job just to be able to watch TV in your fucking prison cell of an apartment. On TV you of course get lectured by some faggot, that it's people like you who are the problem. Life is just some never ending humiliation, and at the end you die alone in your own piss in some hospital.

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 No.14845>>14865 >>14877

>>14681

>off-grid cheap place

>out of EU cancerzone

>not bordering with russia

>good memories about balkan

Serbia or Montenegro are pretty much your only shot.

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 No.14851>>14877

>>14720

>abolishing copyright is somehow an ancap economic principle

Maybe /pol/ was right about you /liberty/ fags being anti-capitalists in disguise. Be honest, are you an accelerationist, or do you genuinely believe that blood-sucking usury is a good economic system?

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 No.14865>>14877 >>14900 >>15036 >>15107

>>14720

This sounded almost like something leftist would say. Anyway I don't really like the drug innovation thingy you spoke about. Fuck meds. I'm not anprim but what doctors pump to regular people is insane. It's not about that we have bad medicine, our medicine is on good level (with exception of specialized meds like for cancer treatment, here i agree it's still expensive and would need more research), but problem is they pump to us so much shit that we are losing our own immunity. Living in concrete blocks doesn't help either. The pharmabusiness is just tiny part of the problem, we have Mengeles in whole medicine field, where they treat people with pumping chemicals into them every time they get tiny flu. I know you will probably disagree with me but in this case I'm almost certain "freeing the market" wouldn't help, unless we will go back a bit and treat people how they should be treated. I know wagies have to be back at work tomorrow, so when they get flu they have to get pumped with meds asap but I'd rather stay at home for week or two and just rest it out.

>>14845

Montenegro has beaches, which might be a plus because I also like sea, but from what I know they are full of albanians washing their shitted kids there. Not everything is perfect.

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 No.14877>>14900

>>14845

>not bordering with russia

Not to be a dick, but last I heard, Montenegro was colonized by Russian tourists.

>>14851

The government is an anti-market institution. Copyright basically means you can cheat your way into having a monopoly by asking the government to beat up your competition with a similar idea. What's ancap about this?

>usury

You illiterate nigger, that's the only word you know and will ever know, and even the meaning of that word is ambiguous to you, you just throw it around because you're a retard.

>>14865

>This sounded almost like something leftist would say.

Thank you very much.

It's fucked up how the first resort to any illness is to pump people up with antibiotics. I have a neighbour who's taking antibiotics for a disease he doesn't even know, because otherwise he might die by the time the government healthcare gets around to properly diagnosing him, and he's not just some быдло either, he's a smart guy who also complained about antibiotics and how they're the reason we'll get drug-resistant diseases that will fuck our shit up, but he doesn't really have a choice right now. Hell, I was also almost killed in a government hospital where they pumped me with the wrong antibiotics for 2 months until my family took me to a private one and paid for proper treatment, and I distrusted government services ever since. This is just the kind of shit you get when the government steals most of your money and only throws pennies at actually curing people like they promised, and why wouldn't they do this? The government isn't competing with anyone, they have a monopoly and they can do whatever the fuck they want.

>unless we will go back a bit and treat people how they should be treated

Exactly. In the past, you had a doctor come and check up on you and make sure you were well, and you paid him a small fee regardless of whether you were sick or not, so it was in his interests to keep you alive because you put the bread on his table.

With government healthcare, patients are not a source of income, they're a burden and the faster they die, the faster the bureaucrats who handle taxes could buy themselves the nice cars and big mansions that they want. We shouldn't have to pay anymore taxes for that shit, we need to keep the money that we pay in taxes for these worthless "free" services we get and use it on highly competitive medical insurance instead, where medical professionals regularly examine you and prevent you from getting sick in the first place, because if you get sick then they have to spend money on making you well, if you die they lose their source of income, and if you agreed on life insurance they will have to pay your family members a shitload for failing to keep you alive.

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 No.14887

Those that start thoughtstopping when you bring shit up like "40 hour workweek is an invention of the industrial revolution and is worse than even peasant farming labor" and talk about smartphones and penicillin aren't people so it's okay to kill them.

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 No.14900>>15010 >>15107

>>14865

>Albanians

Blerim is everywhere anon. They are like church - a globallized crime syndicate.

>beaches

here ironically Albania is the better bet because Montenegro and Croatia are so overpriced that I wonder how normal people can afford vacation there. Albania is cheap as fuck and their beaches are beautiful. Also food is cheap and housing too because they are a complete shithole country. But at least those are the rather acceptable albanians. The complete subhuman squips are those that dictator Hoxha expelled to Kosovo and Macedonia. I also heard they don't like each other that much.

>>14877

Russky oligarchs used Montenegro for money laundering and stashing their cash outside of Putins reach. They also bought shittons of real estate there. However, sentiment turned and russkies are not that welcome anymore.

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 No.15010

>>14900

>Russky oligarchs

Aah, so that's what it is.

>outside of Putins reach

Oh, you can bet they're doing it with Putin's help. He never gave a fuck about where they keep their money, businesses, mansions, or children. These oligarchs all live in the west.

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 No.15036>>15040 >>15058

>>14865

It's easy to say we don't have bad medication until you get thrown into the shark pit of requiring medication for a serious illness or injury. Take opiods getting people addicted to them as an example. For day to day stuff we have good medical care, but for long term conditions we have very poor medical care.

The lefty is a retard who doesn't understand there has to be an incentive to make people act. Copyright as a concept is not a bad idea, the length of copyright on the other hand is. Having a monopoly for 5-10 years is enough to encourage people to fund research into new treatments. You always have to chase new better things or your monopoly money runs out. As we have it now they can sit on 1 medication for decades and need to do nothing but repackage it every once in a while.

Commies think people will do stuff for free and they simply won't. Capitalism and Communism both need to die in a fire but an Ancap believes people need incentive to act and won't just invent things requiring thousands of man hours for the fun of it.

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 No.15040>>15043 >>15044 >>15058

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>>15036

It must be revolutionary to be an ancap pedophile in finland or russia where socialism is accepted in mainstream circles, but here in america being and ancap nigger is normalfag shit. Imagine actually defending copyright. Fucking normies.

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 No.15041

materialism isn't everything, boomer

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 No.15042>>15120

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tfw no gf

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 No.15043>>15046

>>15040

>Posts a wall of text

Hello /leftypol/. Kill yourself.

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 No.15044>>15046

>>15040

>Posts a wall of text

Hello /leftypol/. Kill yourself.

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 No.15045>>15094 >>15120

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tfw no bf

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 No.15046>>15060

>>15043

>>15044

<doubleposts in response

Hello /liberty/. Kill yourself.

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 No.15058>>15059 >>15060

>>15036

Fuck off. You're not ancap, you're just another Keynesian neocon rat. Next thing you're gonna say is breaking windows is good, because it gives people an incentive to fix them.

Copyright, along with the state that enforces it must go.

>>15040

Imagine being a nigger, wanting to turn the rest of your country in to Detroit.

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 No.15059>>15060 >>15070

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>>15058

Detroit wasn't ruined because of Socialism, but because of Democrat's welfare slavery of the populace. Their industry failed because of bad economic practices on behalf of liberals. I want to turn my country into a new Soviet Union, meanwhile you want to turn what was once a proud nation into a Pinochet-tier hellhole.

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 No.15060>>15061 >>15070

>>15046

>He's such a newfag he's never had a server fuck up.

>>15058

Are you clinically retarded? Why would I ever be an ancap or a neo con? I'm simply stating a fact. Short term exclusivity is a good way to drive innovation. People want a reward for doing hard work and some asshole stealing that reward at the finish line will destroy any incentive. A short period of exclusivity allows for the researchers to make a profit on their investment and then other researchers can use the knowledge to progress further along the tech tree so to speak.

If you disagree then explain why any one would make anything new if a guy from China could immediately rip it off and sell it for 1/4th the cost? He had no development costs, no infrastructure costs and has no need for future income to invest in further research so he can have rock bottom prices. Your argument is the old one about CDs costing pennies to make so they should be cheap as pennies.

>>15059

<I want to turn my country into a state which mass genocided multiple populations while giving Jews immense amounts of power which they extensively abused

Now we know you're just a troll or incredibly stupid. But I hope you get your wish, you will starve to death, very slowly and very painfully.

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 No.15061>>15070

>>15060

It was an expression of my appreciation for Soviet power, not an appreciation of historical repetition. Of course, there are a few populations here that could use a genocide treatment. Fuck pretty much the entire establishment. Good thing our mammonistic tendencies are leading us straight into a recession next year - perhaps the greedy scum will think twice about worshipping money when they're getting fucked six ways from sunday. Words cannot express my hatred for the right-wing liberals permeating the entire country. They've even manipulated words to pit us against each-other in favor of them.

>"conservative" (conserving the establishment which fucks us)

Vs.

>"liberal" (more freedom for the establishment to fuck us)

Also,

>implying jews are not fully in control already in the USA

Any alternative is better than this doomed shitpile.

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 No.15070>>15073 >>15117

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>>15059

>Detroit wasn't ruined because of Socialism, but because of Democrat's welfare slavery of the populace.

SAME SHIT, NIGGER.

>I want to turn my country into a new Soviet Union

>giving more power to Jews than they already have

You are fucking stupid, but even if this gulag shithole was run by white people, they will still not be saints, they will have their own interests in mind, and they will not be obliged to give a fuck about you or the things you ask for.

>you want to turn what was once a proud nation into a Pinochet-tier hellhole

My nation was already proud before you animals murdered and enslaved everyone, but now we know better. Pinochet prevented his country from being another third-world South American shithole.

>>15060

>If you disagree then explain why any one would make anything new if a guy from China could immediately rip it off and sell it for 1/4th the cost? He had no development costs, no infrastructure costs and has no need for future income to invest in further research so he can have rock bottom prices.

First of all, you're a fucking idiot if you think copyright actually helps with innovation. Second, I don't have to explain jack shit. If you think resorting to a gang of robbers and murderers to beat up your competition is "good for the economy" or ever a fucking a good idea, then good for you, just don't embarass everone else by calling yourself ancap. We are not ancaps because there will be X amount more bathtubs in a free society, we are ancaps because we despise the injustice, robbery, murder, and enslavement that always comes with violence or outsourcing it to government.

>>15061

Just admit that you don't know what the fuck you want. Stay out of politics and let adults sort shit out.

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 No.15073>>15110

>>15070

>Pinochet prevented his country from being another third-world shithole

I'm gonna give you a chance to take that statement back. You surely aren't retarded enough to think this. Pinochet killed National Socialists as well as Communists. He's an enemy to anyone who actually calls themselves nationalist, he was a traitor to his country, and you surely cannot actually look up to him for betraying his people.

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 No.15094

>>15045

>tfw waifu not real

I feel you

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 No.15107>>15109

>>14865

>Montenegro has beaches, which might be a plus because I also like sea, but from what I know they are full of albanians washing their shitted kids there. Not everything is perfect.

Montenegro has more Shqips than Serbia. Still would recommend the nicer places in Montenegro.

>>14900

>Blerim is everywhere anon. They are like church - a globallized crime syndicate.

Yeah.

>acceptable albanians

that's what they said about the diaspora ones and I can assure you that they are not.

There is a Serbian national renewal coming. The weakening of U.S. Hegemony and the relative improvement Russian power projection means that Serbia will probably never join the EU and that things will improve in the Balkans.

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 No.15109>>15125

>>15107

>Diaspora squips

they are all either from Kosovo or Macedonia, practically all of them muslim and involved in some kind of illegal shit. I only got to know 1 who was from Albania and he was different and catholic family background.

>There is a Serbian national renewal coming

I doubt that but I hope you are right…

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 No.15110>>15112 >>15117 >>15188

>>15073

>Pinochet killed National Socialists

Why do you automatically assume that I must give a fuck about national socialists? Are you fucking 12?

>and you surely cannot actually look up to him for betraying his people.

Those who idealize the Soviet Union shouldn't be allowed to talk about treason. Tens of millions of innocent Slavic families were murdered by artificial famines, inhuman work conditions and slavery, war communism, purges, and NKVD maurauders competing for employee of the month, riding into villages and massacring people at random just to fill up their kill quotas and get their promotions at work. If you have the arrogance to defend this and other "mistakes" of that Jewish regime, you are a subhuman in every sense of the word.

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 No.15112

>>15110

Mammonists will pay for their crimes, and Ukrainian grain-burners are on the list. Kulaks owe it to the Russians.

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 No.15117>>15118 >>15229

>>15070

>Pinochet prevented his country from being another third-world South American shithole.

Hahaha. Look at Chile. How much ideology do you have to be on to believe this exactly retard?

>>15110

Seriously though, nobody cares. the more dead russians the better, as far as i'm concerned. GJ Stalin!<3

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 No.15118

>>15117

Baste!

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 No.15120>>15154 >>15193

>>15045

>>15042

If you are unironically sad that you don't have a 'gf' or 'bf', then you need to go outside.

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 No.15125

>>15109

>they are all either from Kosovo or Macedonia

many of them yes

>practically all of them muslim and involved in some kind of illegal shit

true of those we get from albania itself as well.

> I only got to know 1 who was from Albania and he was different and catholic family background.

OK that changes it. Most Orthodox or Catholic albanians are of albanized greek, or albanized italian (sometimes also aromanian) ancestry respectively.

He was probably one of those.

>I doubt that but I hope you are right…

I started having confidence when the EU slowed its expansion and when Dodik got elected in RS. In the past the U.S. has acted directly and removed any remotely nationalist serb but this time they were too weak to do so.

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 No.15154

>>15120

I hate the outside world people are just judgemental af and it's no use trying to reason with robots

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 No.15188>>15229

>>15110

It doesn't matter Pinochet hated the poor. It's not a good way to make a country work.

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 No.15190

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>>6189 (OP)

>you likely have a higher quality of life than the wealthiest person in the world did 100

try adding another 0 to the right and maybe that may be true

>You have drinkable water out of a tap

i don't know what they are putting in that water but, it's turning the frogs gay

>You have air conditioning and heat at home

my parents home, cos inflation and unemployment won't let me get my own place anytime soon, and with all the niggers diluting the work force, good luck getting any job that won't exploit you like a nigger

>and in your car

implying cars are cheap

>You have hot water out of your faucet

and a nice gas bill to go with it

>You can fly across the world in a day, visit any country, culture, or monument

implying plane tickets are cheap

>You can drive down around the city and eat cuisine from 50 different countries

mostly junk food and it usually comes at the cost of having neighbourghs from 50 different countries, chances are none of them will either look like you or even want to asimilate to your country

>You have medicine to cure most issues that would have killed you 100 years ago

you also have like a millon new diseases that didn't exist back thenj until farma companies invented them to sell more useles pills to people

>You have access to entertainment in every form

if only it hadn't been turned into blantant political propaganda i could still be able to loose myself in it and forget that i'm a doomer every now and then

>50 years ago, most of the above benefits didn't exist

50 years ago we still had hope

faggotry was shunned and shamed instead of gloryfied, identity politics did not exist in the mainstream, teaching tranny bullshit to elementary school kids wouldn't even be considered, there wasn't such a massive influx of low IQ nigger in rich countries so megacorps could afford to lower salaries thanks to the low demnand and high offer of workers, entretainament was mostly concerned with entretaining instead of beating you over the head with sanctimonious nagging and social commentary, women weren't such entiteled and promiscuaous sluts and society was not so biased against men

i could go on but i'm starting to get depressed

OP is a retarded boomer

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 No.15193

>>15120

Silence infidel

You will be slain first in the coming waifu Jihads

Youre wiafu a shieet

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 No.15200

Having such a high standard of living is the reason why we don't have to preoccupy ourselves with worrying about basic survival, which means we have time to think about deeper subjects and shit.

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 No.15205

Still wanna die

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 No.15229>>20149

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>>15117

AHAHAHAHA an actual nigger appeared to defend his low IQ ideology.

>>15188

Don't pretend to care about the poor. The only thing you ever did for the poor was make more of them.

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 No.15276>>19612

>>6189 (OP)

Human history just consists of a bunch of psychopaths gaining power and telling the masses what useless shit they need. Be it the holy land or iPhones. Until very recently at least they tried to disguise it behind a greater purpose but nowadays that is gone, making people miserable as a result. What use has a good living standard if you're dead inside?

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 No.15278>>15280

>>15203

The Image you posted is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. "I already know all the answers, actually being able to defend my positions against criticisms is irrelevant."

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 No.15280

>>15278

>implying it's not true

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 No.16665

>>6495

Maybe we're all just emo faggots. Well yea i guess we all are at some point in our lives. I rember that. 42yo neet

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 No.16918

>>6189 (OP)

>If you live in the US or Europe

And thats my problem, I dont

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 No.19612>>19724

>>15276

>Human history just consists of a bunch of psychopaths gaining power and telling the masses what useless shit they need.

I've been saying exactly this for so long myself. All of doomerdom should eventually reach the same conclusion - you can't save society because THIS is WHY we have a society in the first place. It's when you recognize that you were born into this clown world without your consent, to mediocre at best parents who probably didn't want you but were obligated by "muh laws" to keep you around, in a decaying society where nobody cares about anything because they want to be everything but themselves, that you reach the doomer equivalent of Nirvana. Think about it, anons. There have basically been no changes in the human condition or what motivates people in all of history. Only technology has changed. Humans and their attitudes towards most things have not. The silent majority of all human societies only care about fucking, eating and shitting. Everything else is irrelevant - look at all the white pride types who hook up with Asian broads. Sure, it contradicts the whole idea of being into white racialism, but ideology can't trump biology. You are basically at the mercy of the genetic lottery. If you are born attractive, then nothing matters because you just have to do the bare minimum and you'll have it all, but that's not always enough as Bourdain's suicide showed. However, if you weren't born attractive, then you better hope you were born into a well off family at least. No? Then suicide is your best bet unless you want to LARP around on some imageboard thinking that slacktivist shitposting and going after "muh SJWs" counts as a life, let alone an act of revolution. You literally live in a world where the great works of art and the like were largely made only for the benefit of some rich cocksucking sociopath, where you only got into space because two psychopaths wanted to see whose cock was bigger, and so on. The blackest of black pills is to recognize that life isn't what you make it, it's what life makes of you.

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 No.19723>>19727

You could give me all the wealth and money of the world, but if I'm not allowed to use it to defend my religion, my nation, establish my family and sustain ourselfes it won't worth shit. Material well-being is not enough. In fact I'd say I have most goods and commodities I need, it doesn't make me less depressed and it certainly doesn't satiate my hunger for the aforementioned things and plans. Sorry if my English is bad, but as a Hungarian rabbit farmer it's hard to get a good teacher :/

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 No.19724>>19727

>>19612

My complaint is that it is obvious that the rulers we currently have aren't rulers genetically. There are genetic rulers, but we live in a peasant society ruled by peasants. Filth wherever you go.

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 No.19727>>19744

>>19724

>My complaint is that it is obvious that the rulers we currently have aren't rulers genetically.

Preaching to the choir, anon. Just makes me wish I could trade lives with >>19723 because I'd gladly be farming rabbits over what I'm doing now, which is pretty much jack shit.

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 No.19744>>19747

>>19727

>I'd gladly be farming rabbits

Then why don't you just start doing it? Rabbits don't require too much food or space, they could be sold at relatively great prices, they breed fast and their meat is delicious. You just have to clean their shit like every 2-3 days a week, give them exactly a handful of corn/hay/lucerne per 2 rabbits 3 times a day, give them like 2,5 dl of water per 2 rabbits, sometimes give them whatever you peeled from the potato/carrot you were cooking to eat and you are good to go.

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 No.19747>>19800

>>19744

Because I live in the city, anon. If I had my own plot of land, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Right now I'm just some wage cuck trying to keep from imploding on myself a la Frank Grimes.

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 No.19800>>19802

>>19747

Well thats sad. I think you should try to move to the rural areas. Try to buy a house and atleast some kitchen garden in a village, growing vegetables and keeping a few animals around gives you food, work to pass the time and generally, living in a village is much more beneficial to your mental health than living in those concrete-metal jungles.

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 No.19802>>19829

>>19800

It's been my plan for a long time now - i've been saving and living as minimalistically as I can. I'd like to get some peace and quiet in before the shit really hits the fan…

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 No.19829>>19893

>>19802

Good luck with that. I'll pray for you in the church for God to help you.

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 No.19872>>19877 >>19893

Take the Evola-pill.

We are in the Kali-Yuga: a state of continual spiritual degeneration.

Ride the tiger. Hang on tight. You just might make it through the night.

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 No.19877

>>19872

Totally, dude.

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 No.19893>>19895

>>19829

Although I'm a committed skeptic of organized religion (no, not a fedorafag, just someone who hasn't felt any of them appeal to me), I appreciate your prayers and thank you, sincerely.

>>19872

I took that pill a while ago, before I became a doomer. I don't know how much longer I can ride, though.

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 No.19895>>19950

>>19893

>not a fedorafag

Kind of sad this is the atheist stereotype today, even if I'm not one, it's sad that being against religion it's now just some sort of stylish thing to do.

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 No.19942>>19944 >>20173

>>6189 (OP)

Our bellies may be full, but our spirits are empty.

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 No.19944

>>19942

>pic rel

wtf i like SJWs now.

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 No.19950

>>19895

I think, like a lot of stereotypes, the fedora meme was and still is far more prevalent than the people it attempts to ridicule.

Really, it's sad that anyone ever took it seriously. It was stupid even by the standard of most stereotypes.

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 No.19989>>19992

Yeah those T levels that are half what they used to be sure do show how good things are! Screw birthrates, and it's not like half the population has a chronic illness or anything. Those cancer rates sure are going down too. Culture? Who needs it, we've got faggotry. Home schooling? Fuck you, you are ours for the first 20+ years of your life. Food that is what it looks like? Fuck you you eat poison. Join up with the rest of the gays or live in a computer! Why aren't you happier????

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 No.19992

>>19989

>Those cancer rates sure are going down too.

Cancer is inherent to ageing, if people avoid deaths of violence, accident, fatigue or disease, then cancer rates will go up.

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 No.20045>>20063

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>I believe that I have won the greatest lottery of all time. I am alive. I walk the Earth. I live in America. Above all things, I am grateful.

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 No.20063

>>20045

Imagine being grateful to work like a slave for the rest of your life.

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 No.20149>>20164

>>15229

Yeah because being a rich political prostitute is SO MUCH BETTER

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 No.20164

>>20149

You would know?

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 No.20173

>>19942

This image was great, thanks anon. Often thought about how easy it would be to put incendiaries in the clothes sections of these mega-stores.

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