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 No.27989

We’ve lost the initiative. There’s absolutely no incentive whatsoever to consider anything radical or intellectual anymore. Intellectualism has been homogenized into a deaf mass of barely functioning literates who fight over banal differences online. The little people of our world who are at least curious enough to read words and use them somewhat coherently are either under the spell of these intellectuals or so turned off that everything about intellectualism leaves a bad taste in their mouth. Yeah, it’s a tribulation in itself to be smart and know words, especially when the only recourse for something even resembling a successful life is to assimilate with the homogenized mass and hope to maybe someday be noticed by one of those ephemeral think tanks controlled by large financiers.

Philosophy is basically dead. Art solely exists as a division of marketing for faceless men in business suits, or it is cast aside for its irrelevance, and the people are cut off from its deeper aesthetic metaphysical relevance for a lack of knowing that it even exists because their minds are purely conditioned for materialism.

As for creative ideas and revolutionary theory? “Nice LARP, bud.” “Oh wow, you’re edgy.”

Nothing has defeated people more than their own acceptance of a banal life adrift in a world without meaning. They have chosen to be battered in the face with a simple life stuck in a cube and there is no escapism accept for maybe video games and movies, or if you’re conservative enough you’re probably terrified that even video games and movies will be stripped from you. As for books, can you name ten prominent writers of the 21st century who had half the relevance as a writer from the early 20th century? Do we have any prominent writers left at all? Nobody thinks about new ideas, so nobody writes them, and the cycle of banality feeds itself.

Conservatives can’t create anything new because it is against their very nature to do anything but hold onto tradition with contempt as the world moves ahead of them. Liberals don’t want to create anything new that does not serve a bourgeoisie madhouse of elites assfucking everything into a chaotic vortex with no meaning.

Social media has guaranteed the exact opposite of what was predicted for Internet culture, or as it was called back in the days of my youth, cyberspace. It was anticipated that a new dawn for conversation would emerge, that the intellectual FREE THINKERS would have their ascending moment, but that is not what has happened. What has happened instead is a miserable reflection of the commodified lives that we lead. How is it that the world has moved with such rapid speed into digitization, and yet people are still stuck with such a basic bitch depth of consciousness?

Society has suffered a cruel inability to create something better in the face of all this nihilism. No one even wants to cultivate anything different anymore. Cool is a bad word. Theories are unacceptable. Suicide becomes the most potent word in the vocabulary, not simply because life is bad, but because people are genuinely pathetic.

How do we snap out of this fog? At which point do we rewrite the playbook?

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 No.27990

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>>27989

>How do we snap out of this fog?

is it even possible at this point? few individuals, some small communities may be able to survive on the edges of society or outside of it, but i simply cannot see a future, where the society itself changes completely. i have a strong feeling that people would rather live in actual cages if you call 'em pods and make some big "innovative" tech company have their logo on them than rethink their way of life.

escapism is a logical conclusion to our current situation, where our basic needs are being met with such an ease. there is not much left to do other than jerk off to porn and watch riverdale for a modern-age kids to young adults. some become LARPers on twitter doxxing their own caste for having a 'bad' opinion, others start lifting iron to get some pussy and satiate the the primordial need to be strong despite it being completely useless nowadays. something something fried dopamine receptors.

in addition to people's addiction there is the whole globohomo bs, which renders any small-scale insurrection / revolution futile – DPRK is the exception so needed for this rule to work + they don't really know what they don't have, which is a blessing.

even if one were to 'drop out' and live innawoods, what next? and most importantly at least for me, an european where? regulations, hikers and (((tree cutting companies))) will not let one enjoy a quiet idyllic life one always wished for.

>Intellectualism has been homogenized into a deaf mass of barely functioning literates who fight over banal differences online.

useless degrees and terabytes of information available to one with few mouse-clicks really made people think they actually know everything even though they have never read a single book and get all their "knowledge" from wiki and memes. also social media incentivize people to post anything no matter how stupid or incorrect – because there will always be someone to like their reply and say some words of support. something something fried dopamine receptors again.

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 No.28014

>>27989

There is nothing new under the sun. All the great works from centuries ago were based off of earlier ideas.

You can only have so much originality. Nature has cycles. Everything in nature is metaphorical to each other.

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 No.28020

>>28011

>We KNOW what people LIKE, dude, and THIS is SO not it

I have a wee bit of a story to tell on this actually. Take it with a grain of salt if you will.

Have you ever wondered how a book gets a review into the New York TImes? Yes, that NYT, the one which spear heads modern trite "news and entertainment". Well it goes like this. You publish a book, even self publish it if you have the money! Then you send a copy to the NYT. It gets tossed into a massive pile of books (Imagine about 6 large tables full of boxes stacked two high, each box filled with books). Any old employee of the NYT can then take one of the books, read it, then fill out some form of what they thought... They submit the form, and if accepted, they get the chance to send the book on to one of their "professional reviewers". Where then, if they like it enough, a review will be published through one of the NYT's many media outlets.

So first, your book must be chosen out of a literal heap. Next it must pass the thoughtpurity test of your average New York Times employee. Finally it must be accepted by a salaried "professional reviewer". All this just to get a review in the NYT. BUT!!! A review in the NYT is a golden rubber stamp of success! But in reality, that rubber stamp is nothing more than a sieve of thought purity. Any book that isn't a feminist powertrip or other feel good BS won't get that stamp of approval. It has to go through too many people who all are part of the same groupthink.

Source: I interviewed at the NYT and my friend has worked there for two years. Almost everyone who works there is under 40 and metropolitan in mind and body. Kafkaesque bugpeople, every one.

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 No.28027

Originality is overrated. You can't just spew out new and new prototypes all the time. Somebody needs to refine them as well. What you're lamenting is the decline of insanity, and the fact that due to the popularization of the scientific method, nowadays many more people think twice before publicizing their baseless schizo ideology.

>>28011

>Remember when Frank Zappa pointed out how nothing experimental or creative gets recorded anymore because the hippies became the arbitrators of the public taste?

Zappa isn't remembered for not being full of shit. The guy lived during the one of the most turbulent and exciting times in music history, and to give credit where it's due, his legacy had its part in it as well. But his peers included book-rewriting giants like the Velvet Underground and King Crimson, and even they didn't exist in a vacuum.

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 No.28036

>>28020

Thats not very different with how Twitter asigns the blue checkmarks. That feature now became simply a mark of corporate sponsorship or a political filter. The verification makes absolutely no sense when looked from the outside but it is explained when looking at their revenues stream and the accounts of people who actually have gotten them and how they did it (production companies with an inside on the gatekeeper staff for example)

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 No.28037

>where our basic needs are being met with such an ease.

This is so not true for pretty much everywhere but america and certain high income parts of Europe

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 No.28045

>>28041

The reason why there's no authenticity now is bc people are too obsessed about authenticity. Yet anytime someone makes something new and creative thats not ripped off or inspired by some timeless work, people shrug it off as a fad.

In fact, alot of our great works were shunned or patronized in their time. The Beatles were punned as a fad by their first American label Decca.

("Guitar groups are on the way out.")

The founder of IBM supposedly said " There's gonna be a market for maybe five computers."

Hell, one of the Warner Brothers founders said about talkies: "Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"

Hell, "Bohemian Rhapsody" almost went to the vault for good.

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 No.28046

>>27990

Whats the differences between wikis and books? Why do people think reading up about stuff online is cheating or shallow? How is it?

Because it's not physical?

Books can lie, you know. Also, people do skim through books to highlight passages they like and forget about everything else. Even before wikis, there were pop science books people read that made them feel like an expert.

Looking up something in the dictionary is no different from Googling it.

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 No.28055

>>28046

>Whats the differences between wikis and books?

wiki entries can only provide you with some of the most vital info (according to the author of wiki entry) on one problem, while reading an actual book may give you a better understanding of many other important things, such as how did one arrive to the conclusion or why is the problem actually a problem etc. problem is, people think they are experts on the said problem after reading excerpts and summary on wiki or after seeing some memes on jewbook and think they are on par with people who dedicated hours on end to contemplation.

>physical

yeah like pdfs don't exist lol, you're completely missing my point there buddy, guess should've read more when you were a teen

>pop science books

yeah, same thing but not so widely popular and accessible. but in the core it is the same thing.

>books can lie

yes. don't disagree. what's your point tho?

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 No.28058

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>>27989

Philosophy runs in cycles too. Now that books are being written at a rate that humankind has never before experienced, it has only become more apparent that all we can do is regurgitate. However, most schools of thought, most philosophies, were in existence in some way or shape in the time of the Greeks. Even before perhaps, however we don't have any written record of it. Through the Roman era, the Middle Ages, the Renaissance, the Early Modern, Modern, and Post-Modern eras, most philosophy has simply been a regurgitation of what has already come before. This is because there are only a remarkably small number of ways to conceive of the universe and our place in it. Most philosophies simple shuffle and rearrange previous ideas. Now that anybody can philosophize, the regurgitative nature of philosophy has made itself more apparent to everyone.

>How do we snap out of this fog?

Create something new; accept what is; be destroyed. These are your three options. As I have already implied, I do not think there is anything new to create. There is only time to bide until we reach a more tolerable section of the cycle.

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 No.28060

>>28041

>why are teen romance novels written by senile kikes instead of teens?

Because they're not a testimony, they're a fantasy. Actual teens, the ones living their teens, write stories about not being a teen because they know it isn't so hot as they say and they want their own brand of escapism. An exemplary teen novel is Eragon.

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 No.28061

I've been thinking about how useless it feels to try to create something new for a long time. I'd like to write - I have since I was a kid. I've always been obsessed with coming up with dumb theories that could never stand up and test them, just to see if I could do something new. As of yet, I haven't come up with anything profound and I highly doubt I ever will, for various reasons.

The most crucial one to me IS the political climate. I'm left, yes, but I wouldn't consider myself far left in the least. It's so… draining. The far left squeezes life out of every concept because there will always be something wrong with it. It will have traces of hate somewhere that were never intended or even important to the theory. The left won't let new things come to life because there's so many old things to focus on - xenophobias that must be fought. In that way, we're stuck in an endless loop that doesn't give any room for growth. THAT is my problem with it all. I'm tired. It's a blackpill that I've accidentally been cultivating since I was small, and I live with a far left girl who just…. mansplains (excuse the word, I'm not sure how else to put it right now) every little thing as if she knows all, calling herself smarter than others (and she has said that outright). As I said before - draining. I'm not allowed to have opinions because they are always wrong, or based too much in "theory", or… whatever.

The far left won't let anything live. That's my point.

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 No.28062

>>28061

And the far-right is so virtuous? They like to whine about new aesthetics. In fact, politics and philosophy in general is just whining about aesthetics. That's why I said fuck it and went back to watching astronomy videos and reading about some entertainment history. Nobody cares about learning about the natural world. All they care about is their dumb metaphorical abstract mumbo-jumbo.

>>28060

This is why I'll never understand people who unironically want to relive their childhood in entirety. All childhood is just posh incarceration. It's not bad, but it's not something you'd want for long. You have no right to speak or get a job or roam as you please. Adults smother their silly idealisms on you and curse you for not having the same passtimes. As an adult you have more say in your life. Granted life can still fuck you over but you have a chance to get out. Not when youre a kid. CPS will cart you away to foster care or boarding school. Adults who think childhood is the golden age of life are just sore losers.

>>28055

>guess should've read more when you were a teen

Except I did read alot as a teen.

Guess you didnt read my post. Again, books can lie and people often skim through books to highlight passages they like and forget about everything else. If you ask most people's knowledge of any book they read, they give a summary of the vital key points. They won't remember the dross.

Speaking of books, back in the first century AD Greece, the public figurrs of the time thought writing and reading was evil becuase it meant nobody had to rely on oral lessons anymore.

Fast forward two millennia later, and now people are saying the same thing about wikis.

People do care more about aesthetics than meaning. Anti-pop sentiment and alternative news is just about breaking fashion sense.

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 No.28068

>>28065

Politics is the new religion of the West. Despite the fact that we sent space probes to distant planets in our solar system or photograph distant stars thousands of light-years away, despite the fact we sent submarines to photographthe ocean floor, and have avant-gard artists making wickedly cool masterpieces, people rather whine about limp-dick manchildren in suits says about whites or browns.

Then people wonder why theres no history being made.

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 No.28070

>>27989

cringe

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 No.28075

>>28069

>Pseudo-intellectual rapist has nerve to talk about not being bored.

Why is it that the people who whine the most about electronic entertainment are the ones with "analog" vices?

>video games are rotting the brains of youth.

>acid builds your brain, kids.

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 No.28108

>>28099

If there's no mystery left in the world, there's space. And hyperspace. I dont think we humans will ever see nature in its entirety, no matter how long we live.

But should that day come where their is no more mystery left in nature and pretentious manbabies whine about that, there's always heat death or the cosmic crunch.

Nothing lasts forever, which is probably a good thing bc with higher beings being run purely on sentiments, we'd anhero anyway.

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 No.28250

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>>27989

just read this book. its underrated as fuck

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