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As a non doomer I don't get the, "Doomer Mindset."
It's almost like purposefully keeping yourself miserable instead of choosing to revel in life, I mean you always have the option, so why not grab it by the dick and take control?
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▶ No.2478>>2585
>>2476 (OP)
some of us don't have that option. in 4 years I will be 40 and unmarried. some of us don't have that kind of control, esp. in the states.
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▶ No.2488>>2587
to me its just acknowledging that shits fucked and allowing yourself to be not happy about it whats wrong with that
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▶ No.2507>>2589
It's a cycle of counter productive thinking usually triggered by anxiety and a defense mechanism to suppress anger. Because the individual doesn't recognize and correct the pattern, and because to do so would be frightening as the cycle justifies avoiding confrontations with deep rooted fears, a core belief system forms accompanying it which grows stronger and stronger as the state continues and the individual convinces themselves this is absolute reality. Note how everyone is a "victim" in one way or another. Basically everyone here is their own worst enemy and doesn't realize it.
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▶ No.2517>>2520 >>2522 >>2525
>>2476 (OP)
>I mean you always have the option
name one
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▶ No.2520>>2524 >>2527 >>2562 >>2590
>>2517
Righting the wrongs done to you by enacting unrestrained unlawful retribution upon the ones that contributed to your downfall; it beats feeling like an emo anytime.
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▶ No.2521>>3042
>I mean you always have the option
our genetics don't give us the option
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▶ No.2524>>2591
>>2520
boo hoo take a look at my life advice hoo boo, fuck you
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▶ No.2525>>2527
>>2517
instead of thinking "shit's fucked and i'm mad about it" try "shit's fucked and there's no reason to take anything seriously, might as well try and have a good time"
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▶ No.2526
>>2522
this is good advice
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▶ No.2527>>2651
>>2520
>>2525
No, I mean OP said you have better option so I understood it as "life opportunity". Changing attitude isn't opportunity you can grab when it occurs, it's something you either do or do not.
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▶ No.2551>>2563
because i tried taking life by the dick and just partying it up, but at this point that lifestyle doesnt bring me any joy anymore, so i just drink and get high, with or without other people, trying to feel the same feelings i once felt.
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▶ No.2562
>>2520
can't atm, on probation and the American "justice" system is so thoroughly thought out, there's no fucking way unless I an hero. just waiting for one glimmer of hope. JUST FUCKING ONE.
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▶ No.2563
>>2551
I was late to the party on that shit because of my STRAIGHTEDGEHXC phase. made me develop later.
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▶ No.2566>>2573
>>2476 (OP)
I totally agree. I just come here because it's like /b/, /pol/, and /r9k/ combined, but without most of their bad qualities.
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▶ No.2573>>2575
>>2566
Yeah, I don't fully agree with OP (I think doomerism is an exit from the hedonic hamster wheel rather than an active pursuit of misery, ), but I come here for goth music, Jewesses, and late-night drunkposting.
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▶ No.2575>>2635
>>2573
It's a really comfy place. It's where you can discuss your problems but without the immature /r9k/-tier toxic environment. It's where you can post about alcoholism and Jewesses without some sperg from /pol/ writing an essay on why you're a degenerate. It's off-topic enough to be /b/, but where you also have a reason to post your collection of goth bitches, goth art, goth music, goth architecture, etc…
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▶ No.2584
>>2476 (OP)
i remember when i was 12 too. never grow up son.
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▶ No.2585
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▶ No.2587>>2709 >>2720 >>2766
>>2488
heil'd
Poland looks fucking awesome right now, what the hell are you bummed about?
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▶ No.2589>>2671
>>2507
psychology is jewish. understanding some people just have bad lives is objective reality.
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▶ No.2590
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▶ No.2591>>3252
>>2524
you get gayer and gayer everyday BO
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▶ No.2610
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▶ No.2634>>2650
>>2476 (OP)
Keep eating redpills, you'll get there.
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▶ No.2635>>2645
>>2575
I feel like many of the people here are just to the point where life has simply become tiresome. There really isn't a point in having the same arguments over and over again on /pol/, you know the data and are as close to the truth as you can get already. So we come together from around the world after spending 10+ years on imageboards to share stuff we like and our stories because there's no one to relate to in real life. I just wish people would stop coming here. I like the population of this board right now.
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▶ No.2645>>2725
>>2635
not everyone is a vet. there are antifa here, like the BO for instance, that's why he allows the bestiality and scat porn.
some of the people are alright, but we dont have much in common except depression. i guess some know about race and the JQ,
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▶ No.2650>>2665
>>2634
"Oh why cant everyone just be educated and intellectual like me," the post
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▶ No.2651
>>2527
>>2527
Yes, I should have phrased that better. I'm not skilled when it comes to articulating abstract thoughts like that. Thank you!
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▶ No.2665>>2670
>>2650
"i am an obese female" the post
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▶ No.2670>>2718
>>2665
must suck to be smarter than the rest of us
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▶ No.2671>>3143 >>16182
>>2589
Getting all that shit from cognitive behavioral therapy. All it really is is learning to control your inner monologue. Even the most hopelessly accursed soul destined to live in the blackest deepest darkest pit of utter despair could find such a skill useful.
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▶ No.2674
i mean, when you fucked over your own life and injured/crippled yourself in the process, and then having to rely on narcissistic people for housing, transportation and food, wouldn't you be a doomer too?
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▶ No.2683>>2696 >>2824
i grew up, realised i've not got the balls/stupidity to kill myself, hate most people so i turned to alcohol and here i am lel.
i used to fuck about on halfchan r9k but half the posts there are ">tfw no gf" which is infuriating
i don't think this board is about jerking each other off on how miserable we are, we all know that, it's about just posting shit you can't anywhere else really
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▶ No.2696>>2701 >>2704
>>2683
i kinda get what you mean. It is a generalization say that doomers get off on being miserable. i used to have a lot of familial issues, and my friends fucking despised hearing me talk about it, so I understand the function of a place to talk about it. I think the entire situation is more complicated than it presents itself to be
:(
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▶ No.2701>>2703 >>2766
>>2696
bit of drunk tangent here but i think the internet/image boards are bittersweet, i didn't get proper access to the net until maybe 11-12 years ago and before then i'd keep all my shit to myself or not even realise half the problems with the world (faggy but whatever)
but reading other people's posts, knowing they have the same feelings/mindset as me was refreshing, it's great being able to either shitpost or get things off your chest but fuck doing that irl, everyone seems really superficial and almost zombie like. i find it hard to interact with people now without being fake which i hate doing
the worst part for me is anytime i get somewhat close to someone, or have a genuine conversation i end up showing my power level lel
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▶ No.2703>>2707
>>2701
over time ive discovered that its cool to just reveal the "powerlevel" at the gate, you will attract likeminded people and a lot of faggots will detest you for it, but that's just the way of the world.
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▶ No.2704>>3115
>>2696
>It is a generalization say that doomers get off on being miserable.
there is an obvious tendency to fetishise misery. How many images are already here of someone wearing all black smoking a cigarette with a sour look on their face? That's a pose. Same with the goth sluts, edgy skull art, etc. Nothing wrong with until you start taking it too seriously at which point it shows a lack of self awareness.
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▶ No.2707>>2714
>>2703
you're probably right, and also by powerlevel i almost mean being over-enthusiastic/opinionated
there's a guy in my work who's into gaming, he's fag who owns a ps4 and he was showing me vids of god of war + horizon zero dawn and i find it hard to not just "explain" why they're shit games lol
same with my brother in law
"hey anon, see the new mk11 trailer"
instead of me talking shit about the music and how they fucked it up i just reply "yeah, looks good man"
i never want to appear autistic, especially about trivial shit
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▶ No.2709
>>2587
>Poland looks fucking awesome right now
too bad they're catholic
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▶ No.2714
>>2707
i wish these things could be simpler
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▶ No.2718
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▶ No.2720>>2870
>>2587
is it recent? they had numerous protests like this during this year
also
>Belgium
>France
>Hungary (bigger one after a while)
it's always something happening in Europe
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▶ No.2725>>2734
>>2645
I know some of the doomers are uneducated. I don't have the will to try to change people's minds anymore though. Everyone here knows shit is fucked. Even if they don't really know the truth as to why, I really don't care. I just like commiserating with others. Its cathartic.
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▶ No.2734>>2838
>>2725
I'm just here to subvert the suicidal into snackbarring for my personal causes
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▶ No.2766
>>2587
the thing is, polacks like waving flags and caring about dumb shit all day, while schools and colleges will keep being glorified day-care centers for adults, administration will keep being borderline non-functional, protests are just a pass time for people that kinda care a bit
>>2701
>i find it hard to interact with people now without being fake which i hate doing
i know what you mean man
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▶ No.2779>>2781
I can't stop myself from caring. I literally cannot do it. Believe me I've tried, and believe me I've wanted to; caring is painful, it only invites unbelievable anger and disappointment. It's a crushing burden to care. But for all of the meditation, and all the distractions and sedatives, I have only ever managed to suppress the feelings that I have and deny they exist, but I am never convinced, and they are always there, lurking beneath the fog of my mind.
I only became a doomer when I allowed myself the courage of admitting that I cared, and in doing so, I embraced my torment. There's no getting off this ride.
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▶ No.2781>>3045
>>2779
I don't know your age obviously but I would guess you are too young. It comes with age. Older you are the less shit you give. Maybe we all care but meh, what's the point.
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▶ No.2823
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▶ No.2824
>>2683
you'll do fine here m8
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▶ No.2838
>>2734
I err on the side of skyking rather than aloha snackbar
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▶ No.2870>>3284
>>2720
The one here in Hungary is a fucking joke. Its made up of delusional college sudents, old commies and drunk idiots who want chaos, they have no alternative to offer they just want to bring down muh evil Fidesz. (the only somewhat competent party by far)
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▶ No.3042>>17266
>>2521
>tfw have the genetics but stunted growth from early childhood abuse
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▶ No.3045>>3048
>>2781
I'd peg him for older actually. It was a great post, and a realization that took me until my early 30's to figure out.
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▶ No.3048
>>3045
Maybe that anon is precocious enough to have that realization when his senses haven't dulled enough to a point where having some skin in the game becomes burdensome rather than invigorating. But in most cases, youth is truly wasted on the young. Especially in this era where the means of cultural transmission are so thoroughly broken that a bunch of internet autists dealing contraband redpills play a much greater role than they deserve to.
Godspeed ye good anon, you're gonna make it!
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▶ No.3115>>3119 >>3167
>>2704
> hurr durr emphasizing with something I dont understand is fetishizing it
If you don't get it fuck off. I didnt ask to be born bipolar OP. I didnt ask to fuck up everyone I love because half the time I'm not myself. I didnt ask to not know which parts of me are real and which parts are my illness. I've tried it all, was in a mental hospital after a failed suicide attempt and learned how to make it easier buts its never fucking easy, imagine having to fight a war of attrition against yourself. If you dont understand just get the fuck out and be glad you have the chance to live a normal life.
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▶ No.3119>>3123
>>3115
I enjoy how touchy this place is. I'm not going anywhere biboy. Now if you don't know which parts are you and which parts are your illness you should apologize for all of it because for all you know it's all your fault. Don't forget to take your meds.
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▶ No.3123
>>3119
>posts a jew whining about shit after whining about shit
good troll dude
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▶ No.3143>>3173 >>3211
>>2671
It is arguable whether it is even a "skill" at all. The entirety of Cognitive Therapy is based on studies from the 70's showing people with high self-esteem didn't engage in negative self-talk while those with low self-esteem tended to. The next 40 years of psychology has then been operating under this theory that if we get depressed people to self-talk differently, then they won't suffer from depression. The research since regarding the effectiveness of such therapies has been abysmal and more and more research has arisen suggesting that it is the other way around - that happy people are just born happy and as such engaging in negative self-talk simply never occurs to them.
All of modern psychology hinges on the belief that the conscience controls the subconscious, but my only life experiences along with increasing amounts of research strongly suggests that it to is the other way around, the subconscious is in the driver seat and the conscious mind just rationalizes it as if it originated from itself.
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▶ No.3167>>3180
>>3115
no point in explaining that, anon
people who never suffered mental illness will never understand those who did
it's like trying to explain how color blue looks like to somebody who has never seen the color blue, impossible
http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s11e01-with-apologies-to-jesse-jackson
i really liked this episode because of the talk between stan and token at the end
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▶ No.3173
>>3143
>the subconscious is in the driver seat and the conscious mind just rationalizes it as if it originated from itself
That's some bullshit right there because it just doesn't match up with reality. If I consciously decide to start doing everything with my left hand in time I can render myself left handed. It didn't magically emerge from my puppeteering subconscious it's a conscious decision that then becomes automatic. If the subconcious was truly in control no one would ever succeed at modifying their behavior.
You can either use your concious mind to control your feefees or let your feefees control your concious mind. That isn't even psychology it's just common sense.
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▶ No.3180>>3214 >>3272 >>3274
>>3167
nigger they tried to give me lithium. If you want to keep believing you're mentally ill and use that as an excuse to not try while the shrinks milk you for insurance bux for the rest of your life go ahead, Moo while you cry, just don't expect me to feel sorry for you or not make fun of you. I realized they were jerking me off years ago and nothing happened away from the mental health safety net that didn't happen when I was in it except I'm more functional and I have more money. Everyone is fucked up out here.
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▶ No.3211
>>3143
i have to call BS. im depressed, but dont negative self talk. ive beat the shit out of many men and fucked the hell out of many women, im am confident and careless enough to where that is not the issue. i do however, have a torturous and permanent set of circumstances, imagine negative confrontations, and assume the worst, but this is based on an accurate understanding of how hellacious this world is. maybe part of my problem is information overload, but that still doesnt change the other circumstances. so yeah, i call bs.
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▶ No.3214>>3258
>>3180
he was sympathizing dude
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▶ No.3252
>>2591
pretty soon he'll be posting about his/her/its sex change. YIKES.
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▶ No.3258>>3349
>>3214
sympathy doesn't win race wars
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▶ No.3259
i can't go them since they're retarded but i need a girlfriend again
getting bored of being depressed
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▶ No.3272
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▶ No.3274>>3275
>>3180
I like how people like you try to sound motivational and shit. Basically "lmao just stop being depressed" - that post.
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▶ No.3275>>3276 >>3350
>>3274
And I like how people like you have no sense of accountability and demand sympathy from strangers for your faults.
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▶ No.3276>>3280
>>3275
>demand sympathy from strangers for your faults
that is implied where?
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▶ No.3280>>3286
>>3276
The post I responded to you're bitching at me for. That's what you're defending isn't it? How dare I say what I think instead of "sorry bro, sucks to be us, lets jerk eachother off about how sick and helpless we are" It's so fucking faggy.
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▶ No.3284
>>2870
college protesters are a fucking joke. the hippies proved that. it ain't me.
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▶ No.3286>>3289
>>3280
I'm speaking for myself and all I'm saying is this pseudo-alphachadbro motivational shit is really worthless. What are you trying to achieve? Seems to me like those retards who unironically "redpill" people on internet with their hot opinions and feel like they make world a better place or something. Pretty cringe boomer stuff if you ask me. Instead of what is desired- speaking about your problems openly, preferably with other people, share experiences, try new approaches if psychology or psychiatry failed you, don't give up and so on, you are here to say like boomer father "kiddo just get over it lmao, have you tried be normal and healthy member of society? xDDD". Am I wrong?
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▶ No.3289>>3295 >>3345 >>3352 >>3353
>>3286
Yeah you are. I don't feel any empathy for any of you. I got my own problems and my own family and friends to give a shit about. They get the sensitivity not you. You're all just pixels. I like to vent and say what I think in a consequence free environment where everyone vents and talks all the shit they want. It's healthy. I'm an American. I giving and receiving loudmouth blunt honesty. That's our circlejerk. It's why you Euros hate us so much and it's funny as hell.
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▶ No.3295
>>3289
>I don't feel any empathy for any of you.
That's very fair, you are not forced (at least by me) to give any fucks, especially around here.
>It's why you Euros hate us so much and it's funny as hell.
If I would be so serious about this shit you would be banned, don't you think so? Just because we have different opinions it doesn't matter I will shut you down, but don't take away my right to call you a nigger. I'm not even forcing you to care about people here, all I'm just saying is that having place where you can among other things also talk to other people about crap in your life helps, especially if you are not extroverted scum so internet provides you this connection with people more sufficiently.
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▶ No.3345
>>3289
get the fuck out then
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▶ No.3349
>>3258
way off topic. you are clearly nuts
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▶ No.3350
>>3275
wow, not just a life coach but one with bipolar disorder
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▶ No.3351
>>2476 (OP)
>grab it by the dick
OP confirmed to be homosexual.
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▶ No.3352
>>3289
>You're all just pixels.
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▶ No.3353
>>3289
>caring about your family
normie get out REEEEEEEE
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▶ No.14653
>>2476 (OP)
>choosing
fuck off bloomer with your Nike-teir philosophy
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▶ No.14657
>>2476 (OP)
>doomer mindset
The self-help book to end all self-help books.
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▶ No.14658
I use to would have agreed. However, the problem is that all is unfulfilling. It isn't that I demand special attention or society is a nigger, it is that existence is a nigger. Doomerism is essentially the philosophy of Schopenhauer. Nonbeing is better than being. Suffering is the nature of all things with the flitting moments of desire masquerading as fulfillment.
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▶ No.14660
>>2476 (OP)
Im not miserable, It's just the way I am.
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▶ No.15988
being here is like reliving the 8th grade ffs wtf am I doing here? lol
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▶ No.16009>>17269
>>2476 (OP)
I actually hate that Doomer/Boomer/Gloomer bullshit. It's funny how a single wojak edit could spawn an entire community, but if you think about it it's really unsettling because it only happened because people could relate so much to that image.
Doomers don't choose to be Doomers, they've been shaped into it. Childhood is as much brain developement as it is body developement and if something goes wrong there (neglect/trauma etc) it's very hard to reshape that failed developement.
there's also the ones who just happened to have bad genes and develop mental illness out of nowhere, but the recent rise in mental illnesses isn't caused by a sudden change of human genetics, it's manmade and it's a snowball running down a hill
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▶ No.16182>>17920
>>2476 (OP)
Since this was already necroed, stop me when I hit an option/something we have control over.
>Being born at all.
>Our inherited genealogy from our parents and ancestors.
>The socio-economic class we're born in.
>The generation we were born in.
>The race and gender we were born as.
>The country we were born in.
>>2671
And CBT is based on Stoicism, the stop hitting yourself of philosophy.
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▶ No.16373
I think PTSD plays a role in it aswell. Some shit fucks you up and is hard to bounce back from. Prolonged shit is no good, it can change people for the worse. I ballance out the alcohol with speed and test boosters. This leads to some craziness but fuck em if they can't take a joke.
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▶ No.17266
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▶ No.17269
>>16009
>Doomer/Boomer/Gloomer bullshit
Next big thing: That 52 year old Glower
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▶ No.17289
>>2476 (OP)
>As a non doomer I don't get the, "Doomer Mindset."
pack your bags and go back to normalfag town where your brethren are
>It's almost like purposefully keeping yourself miserable instead of choosing to revel in life,
sure, people CHOOSE to be different than the kids they grow up with
they choose to have different values
they choose to look different
they even choose to get bullied by fellow normalfags because you know its only fun
they also choose to fail on their jobs or let alone even getting an interview
they choose to fail college as well
yes, being a doomer is 100% choice
what you say is basically:
>holy shit you are fags, why are you not running as fast as we are
when the person in question has weak legs and asthma
>I mean you always have the option, so why not grab it by the dick and take control?
what option? to magically unfuck your mind? to from one day to another become a normalfag
>inb4 fake it until you make it bruh
sure, let me play a role my entire life because the true me is not wanted at least I will be one of the farm animals, right?
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▶ No.17920>>17930 >>18403
>>16182
>And CBT is based on Stoicism, the stop hitting yourself of philosophy.
I swear this is the funniest thing I've read for at least two weeks
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▶ No.17930>>18403
>>17920
…and I thought CBT was based on how our brains conflate intense pain with intense pleasure.
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▶ No.18403>>18406
>>17920
You're welcome, anon.
>>17930
It's more of determining your issues and modifying your behavior and thoughts to overcome the problem than BDSM. Which funny enough is the same thing life coaches and Jordan Lobsterson preach.
>Are you sad, anon?
>Why don't you just stop having sad thoughts and go outside? :^)
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▶ No.18406>>18457
>>18403
>having to explain the joke
CBT also stands for Cock and Ball Torture.
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▶ No.18457
>>18406
I got the joke. I just didn't find it funny, anon. Though to be fair I never got the Cock and Ball Torture meme.
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