/cyoa/ - Choose Your Own Adventure

>>11929

I want to burn Leuna and all her followers on a stake

>>11975

So, this was the first iteration of my build, I have since then (and after a lot of sleep) rebuilt and reorganized my thoughts on everything written. Posting in a minute, still looking for an appropriate piccu.

>>12309

Woops, forgot to link, this is me >>12308

So, yeah, Plan "F U Siros" is a go!

>>12307

Enjoy yourself m8, Imma fucking over Siros.

>>11929

so I reduce my mutations without 100% hiding them if I want to try to seem human

>>12293

I know you're probably sick to death of discussing Heroes, but I want to make sure I got the right idea about them from what I've put together from the CYOA and the comments in this thread.

The Gods are primarily interested in amassing followers in the world, with Heroes being one of the most direct and efficient ways of doing so. Having an ubermensch who carries out your will and is proof of your power helps garner followers. As valuable as these Heroes are to carrying out their will in the world each active Hero weakens a God so the gods try to get away with having as few Geroes as possible.

Every other active God in their world means more competition to gain followers and therefore the Gods are at odds with one another and seeking to undermine, and if they get enough of a foothold, eliminate the other Gods. While the creation of multiple Heroes could potentially let a God exert more direct influence in the world it leaves them vulnerable to direct attacks from their fellow divinities.

Then there are Demon Lords, in most cases Demon Lords are not direct competition for followers outside of possibly killing potential followers. In fact the presence of a Demon Lord and their monsters can cause humans to turn to Gods for protection from the possible threat. So a Demon Lord whose forces are manageable by the God's forces in their domain can actually be beneficial. With the added bonus that if the Hero can slay the Demon Lord the God and Hero both gain an immediate power boost.

The downside to that being a hero dying weakens the god's presence in the world for a minimum of 20 years and there's no guarantee that the hero they find will be as useful as the one they lost. As well as of course public backlash in the loss of a great protector for their followers. So going after a Demon Lord is a large gamble that presents immediate gain but long-term potential loss. Unless a God is 100% sure the Hero can kill the Demon Lord it's in the God's best interest to mitigate the problem rather than go for the risk of eliminating it.

Heroes also won't gang up on Demon Lords due to the Gods wanting each other's followers. I figured that the power boost from a slain Demon Lord isn't as important to the God as much as the publicity of "Hey, my hero got rid of this bad dude, you should worship me and not those other guys". Unless of course you plan on going the full genocide route or breaking the technological stranglehold the Gods have on this planet.

In summation while the Heroes are a sort of looming Sword of Damocles unless you do something to severely upset a god, threaten their follower base more than their forces can comfortably manage, start mass genocide or being a technological revolution they aren't a pressing issue. Something to keep in mind when taking action but not an immediate or constant threat.

>>12316

That's more or less correct, though a god can choose to wait 20 years after summoning a hero before they send that hero. If they do that, then they can instantly replace their hero as soon as they die, but the defeat of a hero is still an embarrassment that will be made known to the public.

That doesn't always stop the gods from using their heroes. Eventually you will be detected. When you're detected you can expect a god or two to test the waters to see if you're an easy target. If you survive and it becomes clear that you're not an easy target the attacks will slow down.

Since the gods are not unified and have taken radically different ideologies there is infighting between their followers. That infighting extends to their heroes. When a god decides that it's time to gamble and send their hero into a risky battle they'll have to decide between sending their hero to battle against the followers of other gods, the demon lord of Gadresh, or you. If you're minding your own business, you'll be low on the priority list and you’ll only see a small fraction of the gods full war potential.

>>12313

does it at least get better with time?

More non human heroes when? I want to battle against a gopher boy.

>>12359

Everything gets better over time. In a few thousand years you'll have godlike power and will be able to do almost anything. The limitations that are imposed on your starting powers (like shapeshifting) will eventually be surpassed in a few hundred years. In the far future you could hide your mutations no matter how many you have.

>>12380

Can you hide portals? Make them look like normal doorways?

Can you use hellhounds to work with dwarves with smithing?

Can witches?

Everyone, rate my setup. An other f*ck Siros version coming through.

Mutations.

Eyes. -make them pearly white.

Skin.- blue as the sky, I want to look like a djinn from heroes of might and magic.

Free stuff- pretty self axplanatory.

Not free stuff.

enchantment - 2*2 special

regeneration

shapeshifting - blend in with humans ftw

elementalism - power 10 lightning gonna hurt

illusions

restoration - i wanna be the wandering sage, helping around, but not too much

spacetime - so i can travel the world and learn about magic, and when the need arises I just pop home to help out Yoko and the others.

debilitation - is this een an option? agains heroes this is a must.

magic eye

silver tongue - i want to trade my knowledge for money so I can bring stuff home

scry - when the core guardian feels there is some real threat, I dont want to be surprised at all

power automatic - I want my base to be in the north, up in the icy mountains where no medieval army can go, so no humans to help me out

army:

(forsaken spec)

skeletons - preety neat that after I gather ike 6 gorillion of them I can threaten everyone everywhere (2)

succubi - great spyes and assasins, will help me build my invisible empire when I travel the world around. (2)

witch - help me work the foundries with black flames, so no mere coal fuelled flames, but dark magic will help forging the weapons and armour of my soldiers (2)

gargoyle - have a commando of respawning ones with enchanted armour and weapons, and some non resurrecting ones to be my leuitenants for the skelly army (1)

lich - as I dont want to take any global points, in the first years I need to create as much undead soldiers as meat shields as much possible without loosing DPU (2)

angels - in the later years I will create some resqawning ones for the commando, and some as generals (1)

servants

dwarves - I need a fortress and a foundry in the north, they will use dark flames and created titanium, plus anything we mine out from the earth with magic.

enchanters - I need coal free foundries, sunshine generating stones for the underground gardens, also loads of traps enchanted. Also around my base there should be a permanent snowstorm raging.

elves - i want an undergroung forest and gardens up in the north where outside there is -25 celsius in the sun.

stuff i create

alarm - so i can roam the world freely

talisman of warding- there is no cheating mode for heroes in my dungeon

interference crytal - did I stutter?

lesser demon core - more skellingtons for my skellington army, again to save DPU

core gardian - Yoko - there will be NO clue for the ordinary people where my base is.

Starting place - Maloris (I want to go up north and be bothered by no one.)

meet - the other demon lord, tell her that I am coming to this world in the next twenty years (not exactly lying, and I need time to prepare)

I first establish a base up in the north. As north and as cold as possible. Use earth magic and removal to carve out the multi levelled dungeon. Use servants to help me with it later.

I will roam the lands with a witch and a Succubus waifu (both respawning ones) to gather money and resources for my home base. The wandering sage with his helpers.

So I can learn about magic in Edeomea, and the state of things. Dropping stuff at home every once in a while. Raising as little suspition as possible.

In a few years I will have hundreds of servants, a lesser demon core and a lich, so when i find a corpse during my travels, he can make free undead monsters for me (bears, boars, whatever).

I will try t lay low and gain power through learning. In the meantime the dwarves can build their own brewery, the elves their own forest and the enchanters get some book I get during my travels.

So all in all I can be somewhat of a good guy while gaining power and preparing for the heroes to arrive (for anything else will die in the white wastes, where the skeleton warriors wait under the snow.

If I get the chance i even rescue magic active children from maloris to Edeomea.

>>12380

okay, good

I have this idea for armor, but some of the mutations would get the way of that

>>12382

Looks good to me!

>Can you hide portals? Make them look like normal doorways?

No, portals are pretty obvious.

>Can you use hellhounds to work with dwarves with smithing? Can witches?

Yes, your minions can assist as needed.

>>12445

Red eyes and fangs as mutations. So I can pass for a human.

>i'm only of you fellow human, you can trust me

>>12445

grope her titty before she you die.

>>12445

>responding to the old version

Here you go: >>11929

>example 3 is unreasonable

The rules of the hero game is much more relaxed in the updated version. The heroes are beasts though.

Just want to thank the autistic teenager and the straight man, you guys are hilarious.

>>11519

>literally a redditor

>>11501

>Authoritarian caste system that empowers nobles and enslaves the lowest caste

This is a good thing, libshit.

Since OP is here, let me give some ideas.

>Core range starts as 6km diameter

>increase by 2km a year to a maximun of 100km

>Option to buy more range, hardcapped at 200km

<mutations can't be shapeshifted

<mutations give bonus

You could also replace the maids with Human Traitors who are average at everything compare to the others, and can be male or female. Also, can those workers and other minions reproduce or is that exclusive to elves and goblins?

Working with Blood faction, now there is a space left in the section. Let us fix that.

<new faction: OTHER

<cannot be specialized

Tier 1: Poltergeist - Cannot be injured, can go throught even warded walls, cannot communicate even throught telepathy, very basic sentience and cannot be detected even with Magical Eye. Can only exert a gentle push but hey, what if you want a lamp to fall on hay or an enemy to trip when charging at you?

Tier 2: Golden Sentinel - The default is made of gold, but it can be made of any material with your interference. It has an humoid form and 4 strength. Basially a sentient golem in human shape. Cannot talk and is very greedy, always hoarding whatever material it is made of. Can only be healed by absorving whatever it is made off.

Tier 3: Darkling - Calling those things "plant people" is a double mistake, they are not plant much less people. A mix of what seems mushrooms and pumpkins, those things come in many forms and stats and can reproduce fast. Parasitic in nature.

Tier 4 Biomechanical Manfucker - "It doesn't think. It doesn't feel.

It doesn't laugh or cry. All it does from dusk till dawn Is make the soldiers die." Has 1 tire, 1 big Magical eye, and 2 arms with sickles.

Tier 5: Brain Slug - Put it in someone's eye and they will dig their way to the brain. Not even demigods will resist this creature, it will bring them permanently into your control. (Reminder gods will simply take their fragment back from heroes, greatly reducing their stats) Get 3 per summon.

Guardian: Giant Poltergeist??? While a poltergeist can only exerce a gentle push, this entity can crush heads of normal men. It has 1km effective range and moves very slownly at 1meter/hour. It has no demands, it takes no space, and it cannot be injured.

I also recommend adding Star Vampire as an Abyss creature… or separate Abyss into Eldrich and Dark Arcana(corruption).

Hey, pass by >>>/adventure/ later, help me with my own cyoas or make a meta thread for yours.

>>11755

I don't think thats how succubus work, my dude. You must be thinking of demoness, succubus overspecialize.

And what's the purpose of room 3? No one is going there.

>>11929

Only orcs and goblins can reproduce? Do orcs have females? Do lizardmen lay eggs? Do slimes split in two? Intelligence? Which ones can improvose tactics and learn to use ranged weapons? Do they feel fear when within 10km of the core? Why all the aime you cockeater? Can those spectres dry up heroes as quick as you dry dicks? What's the difference between demons and devils?

This is important dude, you got put it in the descriptions.

How does one get a Shadow Dragon?

Leuna is literally Satan, because her worshippers are fucking JEWS!

The Mighty is the only real danger, all others can be stomped or illusioned. No Magical Eye = drowing or infighting, or even sing a contract with me. Do they need to be aware of that contract, do they need to actually read it or can I just use illusion?

Time travel is impossible and retarded and a jewish concept. Remove it.

>>12465

>all others can be stomped or illusioned

Heroes can see through illusions

>>11931

see page 7

>How does one get a Shadow Dragon

You can trade minions with Gadresh's demon lord for shadow dragons

>>12463

Thanks for the recommendations. I'll think about it.

>>12465

>Only orcs and goblins can reproduce?

That’s right. When you create a minion it's normally sterile. Of your tier 1 to 4 minions orcs and goblins are the only exceptions. I tried to make most of the minions unique and have a purpose. The creation of vast rampaging hordes is the purpose of orcs and goblins. The stats of orcs in general are lower than most of the other tier 2 minions. So, if a demon lord was trying to lay low they would be better served by the other monsters. Orcs are for demon lords who want to wage a war of open aggression against a country by raising a vast horde. I think it’s OK for servants to be fertile since their stats are so low. That’s not really a balance issue, and long-lived races reproduce extremely slowly. Any offspring they have would have free will and not gain sustenance from your demon core though.

>Do orcs have females?

Yes, there are orc women.

>Do lizardmen lay eggs? Do slimes split in two?

Since your tier 1 to 4 minions can’t reproduce, your lizardmen do not lay eggs. Slimes only have one core. Any slime that disconnects from this core does not become another slime.

>Intelligence? Which ones can improvose tactics and learn to use ranged weapons?

Most of the minions would range from below average to slightly above average intelligence (when compared to humans). If I were to assign an IQ value to them, almost all of them would fall into the 70-110 range. So, they can improve their tactics and learn to some extent, but it would take more effort to teach the minions on the lower end of the spectrum (like ogres and minotaurs). There are a few minions that are outside of the 70-110 IQ range. Adamantine golems can only carry out very simple orders. Plaguebearers, fairy queens, and witches are highly intelligent. Sphinx, liches, and demon scholars have genius-level intelligence.

>Do they feel fear when within 10km of the core?

Most creatures feel nothing at all in the presence of your core. Only the hero can sense your core, and that sensation does not feel like fear.

A wraith can kill an adventurer with 4 resistance and 4 health in one second of contact. It would take about 8 seconds for a wraith to kill a top-ranking adventurer with 7 magic resistance and 7 health. Two wraiths could kill a top-ranking adventurer in 4 seconds if they worked together. It would take over a minute for a single wraith to kill a hero like Magnus with 10 magic resistance and 12 health.

>What's the difference between demons and devils?

Elrineth is an archdevil and is part of the demon faction. Just consider “devil” to be a race within the demon faction, and "archdevil" is a title that he has earned.

> Do they need to be aware of that contract, do they need to actually read it

They do need to be aware of the true content of the contract for contract magic to work, and you can’t mind control them to force them to accept the contract against their will. You can threaten them into accepting the contract though.

> This is important dude, you got put it in the descriptions.

I’ve posted this thing in numerous places and received hundreds of questions. If I put all those answers into the CYOA it would become so bloated that most people would TLDR it. I do intend to add the answer to most of the questions that you asked to the CYOA when I get around to updating it. The struggle is to keep everything concise so that people will actually read it. What I’m thinking is that a separate question and answers section maybe warranted for less critical information. I know that there are other long CYOAs that went that route. Those who are inclined to TLDR it can just skip that section.

Damn look at all those walls about how damage ,defence and meat works. Just say that 2 squares = a healthy men. Thus 4 squares = 2 healthy men and that it takes items/enchants into account - put the item bonuses in blue if you must. Sure a giant monster will be more, but fuck it, godly legendary magical shit and Weight/size are a stat by themselfs.

And remove that Save point from the pirate girl.

>>12012

This. Some starting items would be great. If I could just grab my guns, not even for the dwarves but for my own defence, that would already be great. A fucking camping kit, too.

>>12113

>offering easy mode

kys

>>12165

>The main problem is you are still trying to apply the exact same kind of durability and health to all creatures

>all creatures are snowflakes, stop using the game system used for all of them for all of them, that's not how it works!

<samefagging this much

btw you are, much like everyone else, severy overestimating the flexibility of half of a human comming out of a horse's neck. Unless if you make them truly monstrous, of course.

>>12480

Creation Powers: Alarm, Interference, Practice Arena and Talisman of Warding.

You know, same as what every one else with IQ above 110 will want.

>>12480

>When I asked about fear withing 10km of the core, I meant if the minions can be intimidated and just run away from the heroe instead of charging at them. When you tell a gobbo to kill a hero, i'm pretty sure they'd rather flee.

Minions lack free will and have to obey your orders, but only while in a normal state of mind. If they are so afraid that they can’t even think then they can’t process your orders in the moment and may temporarily go against your orders and flee. In that case it's not that they are directly going against what they know they need to do, it's that they are so afraid that they can't even understand what they need to do in the moment. If they are not panicked to that extent, then they would be forced to go against the hero whether they want to or not. If they are so panicked that they temporarily ignore your orders, then they would be forced to carry out your orders again the moment they calm down enough to regain the capacity for logical thought.

>>12480

>increase Combat Speed and Movement Speed X3 (giving me 12 total of each)

According to page 8 you can't have more than 10 in each stat right now.

I'm really enjoying this CYOA so far. Its not often that I pour hours into a build thinking about things that extend well beyond the scope of the CYOA. With that said if you are taking suggestions one idea I had was for another minion type. The Corrupted. Unlike the Fallen where they turned to the demon lords to survive the corrupted willingly did so in exchange for power. Tier 1 you have the Cultists who turned after being exposed to corrupting magical from the rituals they performed. Stat wise they may be weaker physically but have an emphasis on magic and for their appearance they could possibly pass as normal humans since only their souls have been tainted but can't sustain social contact for long as their madness and insanity would give them away. Tier 2 or tier 3 I was thinking maybe a Dark Knight, basically a corrupted paladin who turned their back on their original gods in pursuit of power. They would use dark magic in place of holy magic and would have combat skills more focused on killing people. For the core guardian I don't have a really good idea but someone with a yandere personality would seem to fit. They would be willing to please you by following your commands but is also just as likely to go against them if they believe it isn't in the best interest of you or your demon core regardless if you believe it is or not. At the same time they may do something that you don't wont them to do because they believe it is in your best.

That's all the ideas I had for minions right know. Though I would add that there should be more powers and items in the creation section. You're tied to a powerful life form that directly provides you with energy. You should be able to do things that no mortal or hero would be able to do. So having more varied magic and powers as well as items to create would be nice. I know you gain more stuff with time but additional starting powers wouldn't hurt. For instance along with elemental magic maybe have something like arcane or evocation magic, something that directly projects magical energy in a harmful form but has little other uses outside combat.

Any way that was just my two cents. Like I said I've really enjoyed this one so far.

>>11364

Would contract magic work if someone signs with a fake name or a symbol? If an animal signs a contract with a pawprint is that fine?

>>12584

They have to be capable of understanding the terms of the contract. If they are, then accepting the contract with a paw print or a symbol would be fine. If somebody uses a fake name then they did not really accept the contract and you'll be able to immediately tell that they're faking it. You have a sense for whether or not the magic was successful.

>>12517

Glad you liked it. I'll think about it.

>>11366

I feel like there weren't enough locations. None of them seem particularily appealing.

Does the false core send the heroes a false distance signal as well? Otherwise they are quite useless tbh.

Do heroes feel the distance between themselves and the core when the core is within a pocket dimension?

>>12685

>Does the false core send the heroes a false distance signal as well?

Yeah it does.

>Do heroes feel the distance between themselves and the core when the core is within a pocket dimension?

They do.

Can we have the next version good sir? Please, pretty please?

>>12480

I really like this build

>>12714

I haven't had much free time lately. I've been very busy. The next update may be a while off.

Pease, please Anduin, dont let this thread die, we need the next version! We beg you for it! I already started a tabletop RPG campaign on this theme.

Anduin, will you post v1.3? I am very interested in the thing you would tweak, this cyoa should not die.

>>12726

Thanks. Why?

Rest in peace

Cmon man, at least post what you had in mind for version 1.3, this is an awesome CYOA, do not let it die so young!

Just a little math for everyone who is crying about the difficulty of the game:

Let's say, you dig deep within the earth under one of the bigger cities of Maloris. Sure, you will have to leave in 17 years (maybe 16 if you want to be safe). In that time no one can detect your demon core, and the gods dont care so far.

You dont even take any global points, just insubordination, because you can pretty much counter it with contract magic.

You take emotion and life.

Lets say the average dude has 2 on the scale of 1-10 on avg. in emotions. That is 4 dpu per person per hour. Let's say you can gather from 8k people (and that is entirely possible according to what the creator said about populations and pop densities in this world.)

Now you wait for 16 years under the city, 100 meters deep, probably even dig an escape tunnel for emergencies.

You can build a civilization anywhere else. After 16 year, you just run, and never look back.

Go and live under the earth at the middle of nowhere with a small village above you.

Now lets see what you gather in just 16 years:

(2+2)*8000*24*365*16

4.485.120.000 DPU

Lets say you spend a lot on regenerating tier 4 bros.

that is 80 regenerating minion. Coming back after each and every heroes if you treat them right.

Plus 2800 dwarf/druid elf/spirit enchanter to create the perfect deathtrap ever imagined. Plus5.120.000 DPU on other stuff like alarms, interference crystals and succubus catgirls to fuck each night.

After 16 years.

If you don't do shit, the gods wont even know you exist.

Your biggest problem is that you should not be a dick with your minions.

Any updates

Please, v1.3 when?

guys, 1.3 when?

V 1.3?

diffculty level and DLC updates anytime soon?

Are there any fan made DLCs for this