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"A future is not given to you. It is something you must take for yourself. "

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 No.44647

What do you think of Black Mirror? Is it a genius deconstruction and criticism of our modern, technological age, or just more pseudo-intellectual bullshit?

 No.44648

there's some irony in the fact that you're posting on this board looking for someone to tell you your opinion

there's some irony in there but i'm not 100% where

the show doesn't even deserve to be called psuedo intellectual it's just bullshit


 No.44649

>>44647

Pretty genius


 No.44650

>>44648

why do you think that?


 No.44654

Pretty good TV show. Reminds me of the twilight zone.


 No.44662

>>44654

no one has ever expressed that opinion before


 No.44663

it heavily depends on the episode. the new netflix episodes are quite bad (all of them but especially the first ones).

concerning the original episodes I think some are ngood (the white bear one) and most have an interesting problem to think about but are rather boring (the one with the dead boyfriend who becomes a android).


 No.44727

>>44647

It's bullshit. Brooker is anti-intellectual and virulently anti-tech. It's propaganda presented with an edgy veneer to make naive viewers believe that technology is bad and transforms normal people into casual sadists.


 No.44750

i loved the episodes i've seen so far. id recomend it


 No.44751

>>44663

i liked episode 1 season 3


 No.44796

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 No.44806

I liked it, but I've only watched the first season. It's something that should be shown to elementary school aged children.


 No.44875

>>44796

good meme kid

I like the few episodes I've seen but they were all Season 1. Can't speak for the rest of the show


 No.45200

Season 3 is mostly stupid, but with a few interesting ideas thrown in (Play Test and San Junipero). I just think they should've spent more time on tackling the core tech issue, in those.


 No.45201

I sat with my girlfriend and watched the first 3 episodes. The first one was…interesting. I can see society going in a similar direction. Reminds me a lot of the Sesame Credit thing the Chinese have going on, just taken to an extreme. The second episode was…forgettable, and the third was just kind of stupid.


 No.45202

Some episodes really makes us think but in general, especially the new Netflix season, is really meh.


 No.45211

>>45200

>>45202

episode 1 season three i loved


 No.45236

San Junipero legit made me cry. I don't think the show has a bad episode either

Whats your top 3 /cyber/?

For me it's;

>San Junipero

>Shut up and dance

>White Christmas


 No.45237

>>44727

Technology turns people into faggots and it's ruining the world. Take a look at US history int he past 15 years for proof


 No.45318

Just got around to watching this and was very entertained. I don't agree with a lot of it but I'm not really offended by the assertions that they made. It's not a new idea. A lot of postmoderns wrote similar stuff in the 80's. Jean Baudrillards theory of second and third order simulacra is an interesting read.

The effects of abstraction and simulation on society aren't all bad or good but they do exist. Writing was the first abstraction, and without it we wouldn't have nice things. Looking at pixels on a monitor is just a logical extension of that. Who knows where it will take us. A 'shared delusion' can be a beautiful thing.


 No.45858

Black Mirror isn't inherently anti-technology, though that is a common criticism I see levied against the show in many places online. It's intent is to explore the darkest parts of human nature that newly emerging and pre-existing technologies enable our species to fall into.

Notice that none of the episodes are merely based around the technology itself failing in some way – rather, it's always about the various ways in which technology can be exploited, abused, or generally misused due to the failings of the characters themselves, or society as a whole in some cases.

That's what makes the show fall into Cyberpunk territory for me – thematically, at least. The themes and issues it explores are very similar to the type of stuff you might find in a Cyberpunk story.


 No.45965

>>45236

anyone who didn't like White Christmas is a fucking goober


 No.45974

>>45318

I hold that a shared delusion is a new reality. It goes for religion, after all. Their "heavens" are real to them.


 No.46948

>>44727

>It's bullshit. Brooker is anti-intellectual and virulently anti-tech. It's propaganda presented with an edgy veneer to make naive viewers believe that technology is bad and transforms normal people into casual sadists.

People *are* casual sadists. Milgram experiment - DuckDuckGo it.

The problem is that information technology amplifies existing issues.

Information placed on the internet is permanent, with global visability, able to be copied by anyone in the world, able to be stored extremely cheaply, and searched instantaneously.

Scaling up technology without scaling up our laws is the issue, and that's not "anti-intellectual".

If you reduce the number of jobs to a point large portions of society will not be able to work, but don't also scale up acceptance of concepts like public health insurance and UBI, you set yourself up for true anti-intellectualism. (Guillotines, cultural revolution.)


 No.47202

Just watched it, it's pretty good

The diversity pandering was pretty bad, especially when it came to relationships, but never really got in the way of the storytelling

Though the best episodes in the series revolved around white couples, go figure

The tone seems to bounce around wildly between episodes and it can be kind of jarring

One episode could have interesting tech and philosophical concepts, while another could be a ridiculous and outlandish extreme where the only point is to deliver a morality tale

I also like how they keep bringing back different technologies in multiple stories to explore their other applications and their ramifications

Bee Hacker Dude Did Nothing Wrong, and is also a great concept for a Bee-list supervillain


 No.47209

>>47202

>The diversity pandering

What the fuck are you talking about?


 No.47220

>>47209

The suspiciously inflated number of black people and people willing to get blacked in britain


 No.47591

>>45237

People have a powerful computer in their fucking pockets and the only use it for stupid shit. People have been stupid for a long time, but now you get to know how stupid they are because of the technology. It's not the tech that makes them retarded, they were retarded to begin with.


 No.48085

>>45237

People are inherently faggots


 No.48092

>>44647

First season was pretty schway

Second season was meh, still ok

Third season is literally hackerman-tier in its shittyness


 No.48093

>>45201

Tell us already you were kissing your gf…


 No.48095

>>45201

>sesame credit

Oh shit this fuckery is real! tho I can tell the producers of this crap show got the idea from that, yay for originality

Back to the sesame thing, its scheduled to be mandatory in 2020

So my chummers how long until we get shit like this over here? place your bets

>>45236

White Christmas was horrible, as in not bad but the things that happened there are legit what governments are going to do once brain implants become commonplace

Still I didn't like that there was no criticism whatsoever about what happened to that guy with his kid

>>45318

>A 'shared delusion' can be a beautiful thing.

Until reality comes crashing on you

>>47202

>Though the best episodes in the series revolved around white couples, go figure

That's because the writers are white pretending to be diverse while living in white enclaves so they have no fucking clue of how to write for a minority character and at the same time they scared shitless about being labeled as a rayciss so they keep shit so neutral its boring as hell

The MC of Fifteen Million Merits was the only one that wasn't cringe-inducing

>>47209

Practically all non-white characters are background or written like shit because they had to check those boxes

That's pandering


 No.48182

>>48092

>Third season is literally hackerman-tier in its shittyness

It's not bad, it just shows the earlier seasons were short for a reason. Bee episode and San Junipero were great, them and the Christmas special would've made an excellent season 3.




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