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What are some good fantasy comics out there? Preferably stuff like Tolkien with orcs, elves and dark lords, but anything else is welcome. Are there any good DnD comics?
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No.1014475
It's sorta fantasy I guess, but I'm not certain where else to ask.
Does anyone remember a comic that told the story of a woman who rescued a village's popular hunter/warrior, won his heart by refusing to be seduced by him, and then when they grew old the guy was killed by a rival tribe attacking the village while the warriors were away. The lady entertained them and got them drunk until the warriors returned and killed them. Always thought it was a neat story, just can't remember where it was from…
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No.1014608
Could any one recommend some really gritty 80's style series? Think like Judge Dredd of the era but fantasy. Dark, grimey and all sort of weird monsters lurking every corner.
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No.1014612
>>1014608
Well, Slaine suggests itself. From the same magazine as Judge Dredd, high points about the same era, shares a few creators, kind of like a sleazier Conan, based on Celtic myth.
Apart from that, maybe Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, Frank and Brutal from Phantastique, Kull, Solomon Kane, old Conan comics, and Den.
Across the water, I'd say Lone Wolf and Cub, Berserk, and Claymore.
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No.1014659
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No.1019228
>>958127
This looks awesome.
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No.1019647
The Goddamned, it's about the wanderings of Cain on the early earth and the punishment that befell humanity after they became sick fucks.
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No.1019661
This is reminding me of a series I saw posted on here a long time ago, but I can't for the life of me remember the name.
I'm pretty sure it was based loosely around the four horsemen of the apocalypse thematically, with "death" being the main character. Lots of betrayal, and people going crazy, and it had like 9+ volumes, maybe more that weren't translated or something, or it might have just ended, but it was good and it's driving me crazy not remembering the name. The early volumes follow him and his brother as kids with a wolf mom or something if that helps at all…
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No.1019662
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No.1027535
>No one recommended Mercenary yet.
It is a good old school, pulpy fantasy story, but focus in clearly on combat and the world rather than plot. Art is great, and author's post scriptum at the end is always an interesting read.
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No.1038996
I recently read Arawn. It's good pulpy fantasy. It's a story of a bastard with mommy issues becoming a god of death and revenge. His magical talking cauldron is probably the best character.
Comic borrows a lot from ancient legends. So there is rape, murder, trials, prices to pay, and so on. Welsh and Celtic ones seem to be the main influences, so it has some similarities to Slaine. English translation is kind of clumsy but not horrible.
>>1019661
Was that a European comic? Could you describe the art style or years it could be from? Is it fantasy, urban fantasy or some other variation?
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No.1039013
>>1038996
I second Arawn. It's short yet gives a lot of story. The art is great, and the brutal Viking atmosphere is nice. I'm envious all the characters in the comic are able to get swoll and fit without going to the gym.
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No.1048555
>>1019647
I just checked it out. It's not that good - it's plot with Cain wanting to die and battling enemy after enemy to do so. This premise is a lot like that comic Gene Simmons' son wrote and plagiarized art from Bleach and DA for. Black Noah who acts like a sadistic beast wrangler just takes this comic over the top.
>>1014451
Good thing that Conan is in public domain in Europe now. What Marvel put out so far was mediocre, and knowing them it will only get worse. It would be far better if Dark Horse still had the license.
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No.1057220
If someone is interested in more of an throwback to old Italian and French fantasy, Swords of Glass is pretty good. Plot starts small, with a girl trying to avenge her dead parents. In the process she gets mixed up in a prophecy involving magical glass swords and saving her world's dying sun.
It is good, but a bit strange book, borrowing from thighs like Arthurian legends, Fantaghiro, Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, Moebius, Druillet, and many other influences. However, it's far more original and less derivative than most comics that do that, like Sword of Ages in >>979718 for example. Closest thing to Swords of Glass it is probably Omer and the Starchild animated series, although that's pretty niche in Anglophone world and could probably be counted as lost media.
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No.1057232
>>1057220
>Closest thing to Swords of Glass it is probably Omer and the Starchild animated series, although that's pretty niche in Anglophone world and could probably be counted as lost media.
>lost media
English dub only; fansubs of the original French version may suffice
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No.1057234
>>957826
Does this qualify as fantasy?
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No.1057284
>>1057232
>fansubs of the original French version may suffice
Where were you able to find them? I've been looking for that series for a long time, but all I managed to get are dead torrents and a few random episodes in foreign languages on youtube.
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No.1057769
>>957826
>Are there any good DnD comics?
The official 4E D&D comics are excellent; way funnier and looser than you'd expect an official product to be. You can find them easily, and they are definitely worth your time.
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No.1057795
>>957826
There is a good comic book adaption of Yvain: The Knight with the Lion, the 12th century Arthurian poem by Chretien de Troyes.
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No.1057798
>>1009054
>saga
I absolutely cannot recommend Saga. It does have enjoyable moments, despite the fact that the author pushes LGBTQ-shit into a setting where it does not make sense. I'll gladly break some of the poz down for those interested, but in short: characters are well written, but often clash with setting and plot.
>pic related
Scion from the Crossgen label was pretty decent. It's a magitech setting mixed with a chivalry.
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No.1057836
>>959205
Hinterland pissed me off. I really wanted to see the return and vengeance of humanity.
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No.1057845
>>1057836
It showed the dangers of multiculturalism and racemixing. Note how the big plague spread to begin with from infiltrators.
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No.1057886
>>1057845
It showed that humanity was right to shun the mythical creatures of old, if outright genocide is their go to solution when it comes to humans.
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No.1057888
>>1057798
>characters are well written, but often clash with setting and plot.
God, this. I enjoyed the comic at first and the science fantasy setting made it feel almost like a more mature Adventure Time. But it just gets way too preachy.
>Petrichor
A transgender character that feels like it was forced in because they wanted an excuse to harp about gender every few chapters. Made extra confusing because the character is an ultra-conservative wizard from a planet of ultra-conservative wizards and is a true believer in the race-war that is the basis of the setting.
>The Will
Introduced as a badass bounty hunter trying to move on after the death of his spider waifu. Just as how arc gets some closure everything goes to shit, his GF and adopted daughter bail and his character becomes completely different.
>Upsher and Doff
Investigative journalists/lovers chasing the story of the century. Actually well written, but every once in a while the comic feels the need to remind you that they bone. Which wouldn't be a problem if their apparently liberal homeworld didn't hate gays for some fucking reason.
I'm sure there's other inconsistencies but that's all I've got off the top of my head. IV deserves a better comic.
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No.1057889
>>1057886
Legends and stories about demi humans are a reminiscence of the actual situation where several hominid species coexisted until Homo sapiens slaughtered/outbreed them. And since history is written by the winner, the message behind them can't be anything else than "we were right to kill them or else they would have killed us."
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No.1057933
>>1057888
Hot damn, Anon, that's a lot of the contrivances I had in mind, too. I'll add some of my thoughts.
>Petrichor
What's weirder is, is that he still has his penis and hasn't fully transitioned. Petrichor is from a magical race that has teleportation helmets and rocket ships grown from trees, yet they can't make a spell that fully changes your gender? This is doubly dumb as we later learn that Upsher and Doff's race can move your consciousness into a new body, which means there are ways to transition (fully) in universe. Speaking of:
>Upsher and Doff
I don't mind that the two are a gay couple, but their planet makes no sense. The planet holds freedom of speech and the freedom of the press in the highest regard. However, they also hate the gays, in fact, they hate them so much that being one can ruin your life permanently. This means that gay accusations should be thrown around constantly, although this is left ignored and unexplored. It's dismissed and we move on.
>Marco
This one pissed me off the most. Marco is shown to be extremely competent throughout the comic, so much so that he still ties up an elite unit of marines, even after having knocked them out and severed at least one dudes hand. When he faces off against the Will, who has just murdered a companion, he doesn't tie him up after knocking him out. The rest is infuriating.
>But it just gets way too preachy
Yeah, no doubt. I saw Marco's death coming a mile off. He was getting more and more useless with every passing issue. It really feels like the author starting putting his virtue signalling before the story. You got me ranting now, I'll drop a couple more things.
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No.1057935
>>1057933
>You got me ranting now
>abortion
This one is just bizarre, on multiple levels. Alana was pregnant with a second child, but has gotten a miscarriage. The problem is that the dead baby is still stuck in the womb. So, they cook up a plan to get it removed. When they arrive at Abortion Town, they then ask for an abortion… even though they need a C-section, which they know… What's weirder is the imagery.
You have a Texan owl willing to give abortions, but then talks about the legislature that forbids late term abortion. A ruling that was of course done by the evil patriarchy. This strikes me as an extremely poor attempt at satire, but it doesn't make any sense. The Texan owl looks like he's supposed to be a republican stand-in, but then surely he would be completely anti-abortion. However, his rhetoric is more akin to that of the pro-life movement. It's so fucking weird and I'm still not sure if there's a political point in there.
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No.1057937
>>1057888
>The Will
>his character becomes completely different
The Will is probably one of the best characters in the comic. He has many sides and they all make sense. He has multiple arcs and they all have, at the very least, decent motivation behind them. Just when you start to soften up to him, he becomes the villain again, it was rather well done. However, I dislike the shortcuts they took to get there, as described in >>1057933
Alright, I think I'm done…
For now.
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No.1057953
>>1057798
>characters are well written
Maybe compared to most big two and popular creator owned books. Saga is some of Vaughans's weaker writing, and he almost goes full Wheadon at times.
>>1057888
>>1057933
>>1057935
>>1057937
Pozz and contrived characters aside, Saga is just The Walking Dead for hipsters
>Story with no clear goal
>Father, Mother, and a Child are the main protagonists with more and more focus upon a child as the book goes on and one parent dying
>Each arc introduces a few new major characters - one or two of the get killed towards the end of that arc, remaining one or two join protagonists and get killed or depart the group in later arcs
>Story follows the cycle of: run -> peace and safety -> everything going wrong -> run
>One of the main characters gets badly hurt in each arc
>Every few arcs one member of the protagonist group makes a heroic sacrifice for the good of the group
>Groups of very disposable enemies with one prominent antagonist per arc that's an actual character
Worst thing is just how repetitive, predictable, and uncreative Saga is. Just like The Walking Dead, it is creators spinning wheels and going nowhere. Whole arc of nothing happening as main group is just hanging around on a ruined planet with some sentient rodents? Sure! Vaughan tries to trick readers into thinking that something is happening by killing characters frequently. However, he abuses that trick to the point that death loses its impact. It's not 'will they get out of this alive?' anymore but rather 'Who's turn it is to die this time?'.
Besides following the walking dead loop and relaying on the same cheap tricks, nearly each volume has:
>Someone getting shot in the shoulder and surviving
>A new cute mascot character
>A Seth Rogen movie tier gross out moment - usually involving dicks and balls or gore
>One sociopolitical issue at the forefront
>Prince Robot being pathetic and having bad luck
>Hamfisted pop culture parody
Art is pretty lackluster too. Very simplistic blocking and angles. Obvious reuse of art. Lazy backgrounds. Characters are always shaded the same way, regardless of lighting conditions, which makes backgrounds look like bad green screen backdrops. Poor visual storytelling. Characters are very stiff. Staples also gets lazy with perspective, which ends with characters looking like cardboard cutouts at points. First panel in second image in >>1057937 is a one example of that. While I'm at it, look at the panels 2 and 3 as well, especially at man's right arm in both panels. Why did he let go of the girl right before executing a swing? I have no idea why these low effort drawings take Staples so long.
Alien designs are shit too. They are all basically:
>humans
>humans but with x
>human-animal hybrid
>Animals
>Animals but with x
When old Doctor Who series and generic 50's Sci-Fi serials with no budget have better alien designs, you fucked up.
Same goes for alien societies. Most of them are modern USA societies but with x. Down to suburbs with white-picked fences and cereal commercials. Despite existence of animal-shaped aliens, everything in the world is built to accommodate bipedal, human-sized beings with two arms for some reason.
And yet for some reason, people praise Saga for its originality and high quality of both writing and art. Good thing that at least it won't drag for as long as the Walking Dead.
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No.1058366
>>1057886
I dropped Hinterkind shortly after those two issues that illustrated the backstory behind the virus. I found it to be a wee bit retarded.
Like, when the last president died and his subordinate ignored his orders to look for human survivors because "fuck immigrants".
Also, a virus can only kill off a species if that species was already on its last legs.
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No.1058876
>No mention of Requiem Vampire Knight.
C'mon guys, its practically required reading
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No.1058902
>>958432
The collection also has an Elves and Orcs and Goblins and spinoffs.
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No.1058961
>>1058876
its OK
it's the coolest thing i've read in my life
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No.1062925
>>998564
>>999361
You had it seeded? I'm trying to download it now and there don't appear to be any seeders.
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No.1063034
>>1062925
I dumped it on vola and mega if you want to grab it from there. I am actually seeding it right now too, and will until midnight EST. I seed on Wednesdays or Thursdays and last week of the month. That way I can be certain that I won't go over monthly data cap.
https://mega.nz/#!qEx3SYCT!E2nJsDKu6aMvbYeNfFrieOjlHF7BNnhPcl4ZM2X_VoY
https://volafile.org/r/kVIkT3
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No.1063071
>>1063046
>I dont spreak fromage.
No need to. The Order was written in English and published by Rebellion - although for a Brit, Kek-W is oddly familiar with German, Polish, and Czech languages and history.
All four series initially ran in 2000AD. First two were collected into a standalone volume. Third one was in progs 2011 - 2022, and fourth one last year in progs 2087 - 2099. I haven't read them yet, so it's hard to say how they compare to the first two. Rebellion will probably collected them into a single volume this or next year.
I just dumped these progs into mega folder below and to /co/'s vola as well.
https://mega.nz/#F!zYwlnYga!umJ4m-3Dds2wRFNvz_p_Zg
https://volafile.org/r/kVIkT3
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No.1063094
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No.1063268
>>958434
Sasuga france, also askin for sauce
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No.1065978
>>959205
>>1057836
Ehhhh, I disagree. Hinterkind would have been more interesting if there were no humans in it at all. Not because they are extinct, but its implied they've gone into hiding. They are the new mythological race, the new fair folk.
Maybe you felt their presence at times, like if they find a seemingly deserted bunker but then realise that the lights are still on and there is freshly prepared food on the table. Perhaps some campfire stories about meeting humans deep in a mountain that are easily brushed off.
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No.1070764
>>958432
>>1058902
Oh, yeah, the world of Arran series.
Not "like Tolkien", it's dark-ish fantasy (not Black Company level though). Also, awesome.
>>958432
Some of those characters reappear in others. Redwin several times, not only in Dwarves.
Also, the exorcist (Sriza), reappears in Elves, in "retirement".
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No.1070845
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No.1070847
>>1057888
I'm sure there's other inconsistencies but that's all I've got off the top of my head
But those things are established in more than one issue first? Unless the author is schizophrenic (which would show), it's strange. Written by a committee? Renamed characters from somewhere else?
>>1057935
> It's so fucking weird and I'm still not sure if there's a political point in there.
Because these distinctions don't matter, anon. It's all one big ctrl-shift-alt-right-MRA-MRE-white-cis-hetero-patriarchal-nazi conspiracy against poor little anita, anyway. Emmanuel Goldstein is behind them all.
Unlike the intersectional progressive movements which are all glassroot and independent.
In other words, see SJW Law #3.
>>1057937
>, will2.PNG
Dat tongue.
Someone who can draw please add another panel when the kid is were-pepe. Just for the hell of it. If you want to be unsubtle about it, also give him speech bubble insisting that's his brother.
two_buttons.jpg
(sage4offtopic)
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No.1074306
A lot of old CrossGen stuff is fantasy and it's almost all worth reading. Sojourn, Scion, Mystic, The First, The Path, Way of the Rat, Brath.
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No.1074309
Some interesting stuff:
>Slaine
>Tales of Telguuth
>Mazeworld
>The Dark Judges: Fall of Deadworld
>The Order
>Aquila
>Absalom
>Caballistics Inc.
>Absalom
>Defoe
>Nemesis The Warlock
>Kull (Dark Horse)
>Solomon Kane (Dark Horse)
>Judge Anderson Case Files
>Disenchanted
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No.1074340
>>1074306
>CrossGen
My nigger!
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No.1074434
>>1074340
Hell yeah, love to see another CrossGen fan. Best comics of the 2000s hands down. That guy who replied in your cap is correct except that I'm pretty sure story 1 is the Crossgenesis special, not CrossGen Chronicles.
Definitely don't stop at those series though. Ruse, Sigil, Crux, El Cazador, The First, Way of the Rat and The Path are all out of this fucking world excellent. Only in-continuity series that were meh were Route 666, the Silken Ghost WoTR spinoff, and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and all of those had bright spots.
I'm gonna be making an issue by issue reading order for the main continuity stuff from CrossGen in the near future if you're interested in reading it all in order (it's all on readcomiconline if you're not aware of that). I've read it all in order before going by release dates with a couple things shifted around cause of some plot elements and it's an amazing ride, although one that's very sad by the end. Stupidly didn't keep track of my order cause I figured there was one out there somewhere but there isn't. I'll post it on here if and when I'm done with it.
Also got legit scripts for the unreleased issues of Negation War (that crossover event they were releasing when they went bankrupt). Pretty underwhelming frankly, at least compared to the quality of those first 3 years of CG but I can post those too if anyone would like.
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