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Not bad. Makes me miss Sokora Refugees…

looks like manga studio with 3d models traced over and perfect speedlines/hatching from digital brushes. sterile looking art. nothing dynamic about perspective. proportions almost identical in every page and character is not good art - its traced art, even in manga/comics. slight curvature to make a 3d model look real or backgrounds appear like they were drawn naturally is obvious, too. characters look like they are floating. no depth to anything. Dialogue is stiff and everyone sounds the same. Get an editor.

>>1043571

Ya know what, in this age of our threads mostly bashing on the miserable state of modern ahit or praising nostalgia from days past I think it's actually pretty upstanding of you to storytime a comic you're sincerely interested in OP.

but next time get rid of the tumblr filename

>>1043587

I don't think models were used at all here, and I'd be interested in knowing where you think models were used. Personally, a better example of model/sketchup abuse would be Inuyashiki. The fact that it is digital doesn't mean much either, a good chunk of artists, professional mangaka use csp now.

>>1043800

Anon, you are on point and that is the major flaw of this comic. There is so much focus put on the detail in the image that most of these pages are completely "unreadable" to the naked eye. it's Dresden Codak, but instead of too many bubbles, there's too much everything. They could have some fantastic compositions here but they're essentially destroyed in a mess of lines. It wouldn't even be so bad if they just gave the focus of their frames more space- either by increasing the white lines around each character, or making their outlines much bolder.

I can speculate why this happened, because it was the reason I quit drawing comics digitally. It's because when you work digitally, you have the ability to zoom in- but sometimes it equates to treating the panel like it's own page.

On the other hand I do really admire the fact that they're doing manga instead of half assing it. The details are pretty damn good and it's well put together, the action is has a lot of impact.

tl;dr artist needs better composition skills

>>1043800

Its typical manga paneling, its always cluttered.

>chapter 1

Oh its gyro's monster versus nemo with pandora to finish it off

>chapter 2

Oh its the science club physicist versus kazu then pandora topped off with a nemo ex machina

>chapter 3

Oh its cold bitch siccing hot guy to fight with pandora with hitori covering for her with/as a b plot for pandora's fashion show

>chapter 4

Huh okay so there's the principal getting into a wacky situation with this antagonistic rival school's principal and so they form a team to defeat the rival school's team all the while subbing in and out random teammates and maaaybe pandora for a back and forth game of ball and oh wait hitori shows up too for some gag?

>chapter 5

Okay so it turns out that the rival school is part of some conspiracy of the pure breds who aren't actually the rightful inheritors of the giver's something versus the racemixed abominations and there's a whole cabal of shady people with different ranks and they have to find out all about it and then pandora duked it out with another big tittied fetish elf and they get another nemo ex machina and is this even from the same chapter oh what the fuck its a 4 parter did anything even happen in chapter 5 oh right they had this role playing character with her alter ego's crush stealing a talking guitar with superpowers and they fight the boss of her brother oh wait he's not the real boss oh wait he works for the school and stuff and isn't racemixing story arcs done to death wait did anything even happen in the third part of this plot arc wait is this bunch of faggots and their gay little story going to span across the duration of the entire comic's run now it's already part four with no end in sight to this story arc isn't this a monster of the week comic wait why is pandora a bitch all of a sudden in chapter 4 how the hell does cowards ghosts blood or her sudden loss of sense of belonging or hatred for her creator or something who fucking knows lead her to this and why hasnt it been addressed in the same chapter it was introduced has it even been resolved yet why is this comic now about some dumb parenting arc why hasnt nemo shown up at all yet why is kazu following these chucklefucks around why is pandora being paired up with that bucktoothed bastard why is the comic railroading them together does their relationship even have any redeeming qualities or is this just gonna be her high school boyfriend during her rebel character phase oh what the fuck why is he feeling sympathy and caring for her better yet why is it so badly done why does she need it why would he feel that way why is he acting so out of character is it cause the writer wants it to happen that badly did they just watch too much anime and forgot all about subtlety and realism is clarence supposed to be seen as shallow by treating kazu and friends as a piece of shit and putting pandora on a pedestal isn't pandora shown to be very apt at separating right from bad and earnest from malicious early on which is a good thing cause having her hook up with random douches that hit on her would make for a pretty shitty story what the fuck caused the 180 in her personality what happened at hitori's exactly is it just the writer being a hack did they just decide on a complete plot arc for the comic mid way like many others and didn't even bother to make a good segue into it why do we even need this shift was the original premise not good enough for the authors we haven't even explored kazu's angst with his parents and the reality of the world he lives in his parents' trips are pretty cool too we don't even know nemo's parents or lackthereof and wouldn't kazu and hitori's relationship be way more adequate in helping kazu reconcile his younger worldview with the superheroes with how it's actually like in the real world than fucking rebel pandora butting her head into some random shit concerning others barely concerning her and kazu even lesser so besides nemo is a cool enough character on his own with his cartridge weapon why is pandora considered as main character anyway she has zero redeeming qualities now besides generic anime girl after her personality was completely destroyed in chapter 3 oh wait nevermind she was shown to enjoy playing with video games that's gotta make at least 75 percent of the fanbase call her their waifu if they haven't already look they've completely forgotten her flaws and stuff already if they've ever even noticed them they probably fetishize her attitude and shit and this is exactly the reason I stay away from japanese cancer and tumblr cancer the fans excuse everything as long as their favourite character or progressive couple exists and acts the way they want them to story and everything else be damned and it makes it impossible to separate

the signal from the noise when discussing shit like this especially so with this comic with how it combines japanese and tumblr together to become even larger cancer I already knew it was overrated trash but decided to read it anyway because this is the first time I read anything from the original chapters and fell in love with it instantly to be honest I just want kazu and nemo and hitori and maybe gyro old pandora principal and the gym skeleton go on with their lives in the same school setting and develop as characters with the help of each other instead of yet another tragic story of a webcomic artist(s) feeling themselves too much and biting off more than they can chew and their retarded fanbase slurping it all up because the story confuses them enough that they stop thinking about how horrendously done the whole thing is

The more you try to go deepest lore, the more plot holes you open yourself to, and the more chinks in your armor you expose. If you're gonna be making money with it, quit fucking around

>>1043800

I think I have my argument for this in my wall of text, but I'm too lazy to reformat it right now

It's sad how low the bar is these days, in that not only is all the criticism of this strip quite accurate, but even with all that, it's still one of the better made webcomics I've seen.

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