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 No.1025319

Between reboots, retcons, deconstructions, and experimental movies. Our modern myths created from comics, movies, and games are being destroyed day in and day out. But I ask, what is the cause of this? What is the true reasoning this keeps happening?

Is it money? Can't be. Time and time again all of these projects trying to pander to the wrong crowd have gotten terrible reception.

Is it recognition? Maybe. But who would really want to be the name and face behind the next big stain on the industry?

So I ask you. What has cause this downfall of our iconic characters?

 No.1025323

We're not going to write your Buzzfeed article for you. Fuck off.


 No.1025356

>myths

Nigga it's a comic book what the fuck do you mean.


 No.1025367

>>1025319

>Our modern myths created from comics, movies, and games

We don't have modern myths. And comics, movies and games don't create jack shit. We still refer to antiquity and middle ages for all our myths. That cancerous reddit meme of "dude superheroes are just like greek myth lmao xD" is just an excuse manbabies came up with to justify their obsession with comic books for 10 year olds and needs to die in a fire.


 No.1025444

Jews.

But all these comics and movies are made by Jews in the first place, they're just playing with their own shit.


 No.1025454

>>1025356

>>1025367

>We don't have modern myths.

Illiterate anti-intellectual retards confirmed, youre shitposting on a capeshit board for a reason.


 No.1025465

>>1025454

>triggered reddit

kek, kys


 No.1025476

>>1025319

>Our modern myths created from comics, movies, and games

Yikes! Also total bullshit, mythology was a living oral and literary tradition which was possessed by no one except the culture from which it sprang. Memes are closer to myth than any commodity fiction.


 No.1025500

File: 3498ce7b988c9b3⋯.jpg (79.88 KB, 900x910, 90:91, 3498ce7b988c9b3937aa34b8a9….jpg)

This pretentious shit.


 No.1025501

>>1025500

It's actually pretty lowbrow, caring about things doesn't make one pretentious.


 No.1025502

>>1025501

No, not that the OP care, I mean this whole thing about comics being modern mythology that people like Professor Geek on YouTube spout of about.


 No.1025505

>>1025502

It's not ideal, but they kind of do serve the same function, which is one the reasons why people are so stupid and infantile. Instead of filling our heads with gods that represent the world around us, we fill our heads with corporate brands used to sell lunchboxes and backpacks.


 No.1025507

>>1025505

Modern mythology is shit like Bigfoot and Area 51, not superheroes.


 No.1025510

>>1025507

Bigfoot? What do you think this is, the 1980s? No one gives a fuck about bigfoot.


 No.1025521

You know why.


 No.1025534

File: 971ca892b26b00f⋯.jpg (51.67 KB, 900x900, 1:1, unnamed.jpg)

>>1025510

>No one gives a fuck about bigfoot

My fucking nigger.


 No.1025677

>>1025470

>They even invented the nation of Wakanda so that they could have a Nigger nation that isn't a shithole. Yeah that's right, Lashawn's nations are so shitty they invented one to artificially elevate them to Whitey's level.

Isn't one of the reasons (or the main reason?) that Wakanda is so advanced is because they have access to a large amount of vibranium ore (that originated from meteor impacts luckily only landing within their borders).

Other countries use trading and cooperation and the market with other countries to get whatever materials they need to advance society while Wakanda hoards there's in isolation.


 No.1025679

>>1025677

Vibranium is nothing more than a shitty analogy for diamonds. Africa is in reality the most resource rich continent on the planet, but having resources doesn't make you have higher IQs. Wakanda is just dumb.


 No.1025685

>>1025679

Sarah Connor Chronicles has taught me that Africa is also rich in Coltan, which we need for building cellphones, and Terminators, and Terminator cellphones, and cellphone Terminators.


 No.1025710

Our myths are representatives of our deepest values. Zeus is glorious, Heraclese rose up to join the highest crowd by his heroics. They also control our fears. Neptune controls the sea where most of Greek food came from. In the past myths were in an ancient time where the world was different but now we know that is impossible so many of our myths are based in the future. We have myths(and I say this because they are functionally the same not because of similar definition) of people becoming cyborgs that live forever. Transhumanism. This is a mythical arc that comes from our fear of death like Neptune comes from fear of the sea. From our value of science, stuff like the singularity where afterwards we will be advanced beyond recognition. Celebrities themselves are myths. We idolize them and turn them into gods. This is stupid but you that song by enemim? They are ideals that we compare and steer ourselves to so that one day we might join them on their metaphorical Olympus of the screen.


 No.1025711

>>1025710

>Zeus is glorious

Is this a different zeus from greek mythology?


 No.1025713

>>1025319

Retarded myth faggotry aside, it's just lazy kikes being lazy kikes, nigga.

>>1025711

What about eating your pregnant wife isn't glorious?


 No.1025714

>>1025679

They have so many diamonds that they would devalue them if not for the forced scarcity. You can do that when the value of a thing is entirely dependent on having something that others don't have. Gold used to be like that, then we discovered micro-electronics and it became genuinely valuable. But for industrial purposes, man-made diamonds are just as good. So diamonds remain a con, and preserving that con makes having diamond deposits in your country a flaw, not a virtue.


 No.1026291

>>1025685

I want a cellphone terminator so I can destroy every smartphone being used as a boombox or tv in public.


 No.1027793

>>1025684

You made a really good example listing Japan.

The reaon ther have those 1000 times folded steel blades is because there iron is so scarce and so shit that it was the only way to make a decently reliable sword.


 No.1027795

>>1025319

I think I have a relevant anecdote that might at least give an interesting take. No idea where I heard/read it but I've always called it the story of the professor and the student.

In school there is a professor that teaches English. Year after year he teaches the same subject matter to students, using the same materials. Let's say that he uses Moby Dick because it's well known and has enough symbolism that a professor may use it to teach. So every year he will have to assign and then read reports on Moby Dick from every student. Sometimes multiple papers by each student. Now, the story of Moby Dick never changes and as such these papers end up being pretty much the same thing written just slightly different. That is, of course, until a particular student arrives. This student doesn't care about studies and has mostly gotten through most classes by bullshitting. So when he has to do work on Moby Dick he responds the way he always has, make shit up and use every rhetorical trick in the book to make it sound plausible enough that he can't be accused of not thinking. He writes a story about how Moby Dick was actually a representation of the desirable hetero-normative behaviors of women, and how Ahab had to pierce it with his spear/penis no matter the cost in the ultimate assertion of power and rape. The professor, bored to tears of papers about what actually happens in the book, gives this unique take on the work high marks and praises the student for such imaginative interpretation of the work. Thus the student moves on with an ever inflating ego that what he is doing is smart, and the legitimacy of various professors praising his new ideals.

Now, this isn't to say that this is even the norm these days. But you can see the general principal of how these 'deconstructionists' ie: Bullshit artists come up. From there I very much think it's just Dunning-Kruger effect in action. People who are actually competent in the fields of writing and story telling are either intimidated away from even starting or are carefully doing their works the correct way. Meanwhile the incompetent bullshit artist is grabbing work because he relies on social connections more than actual accomplishments. He's the hot new writer on the scene and a company hears that and puts him on a project, from there he just rewrites the character as a new 'interpretation' of x,y or z. Then it's the tapdance of justification. If it's the failure it's most likely to be then everyone justifies it under any number of reasons, eg: The work was ahead of its time, audiences just didn't 'get' it, it was a little to smart for the room. If it's a rare success then the person is suddenly praised as the second coming of christ for the story and is given a lifetime blank check to fuck up any other property he wants. This phenomena is exactly why the comics industry is full of untalented hacks that are screaming about how it's all the fault of Russian Robotic Gambino Gators that their work isn't selling, or that the 'harrasment' is why they aren't doing their best work.

TLDR: Promotion of material went from merit based to a popularity contest


 No.1027799

>>1025679

>>1025684

>>1025677

The in-universe reason why Wakanda is so great simply backfires. It has nothing to do with genius or creativity of the people there, just magic space rocks that automatically make everyone stronger and smarter. But it's an excellent allegory to how leftists think the world works.


 No.1027847

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>>1027793

Another reason I think mentioning Japan is genius is because in a way, anime has stripped the title of "myth" from comics and cartoons. Sure Marvel's movies are good and all but then you have like 99% of South American praising Goku like the second coming of Jesus and like almost everybody who pits him against Superman wanting the first to beat him to an inch of his pulp. You see kids watching anime with much more frequency than cartoons, like by a ginormous margin and even social media prefers to blast anime news than whatever Marvel or DC tries to shit out because that shit often sells harder.


 No.1027855

>>1027847

Have you considered you may just be a faggot and think way too into this?


 No.1031437

File: 02658bf0f8d7c05⋯.png (1.22 MB, 1253x896, 179:128, Shogun finished off Budo.png)

>>1027847

the only thing I liked about your post was the fact you posted Akuma Shogun.


 No.1031759

File: 29b624ce7607048⋯.jpg (116.97 KB, 705x1081, 15:23, DOOMcock.jpg)


 No.1043798

bump


 No.1043824

>>1025454

>nufags are /co/

All of 8fag.


 No.1043825

>>1025319

Consumerism.

Identity politics.

Corruption and general decline.

A big sign of shit board quality is when even so-so OPs are met with shitty posts. Sorry OP.


 No.1043858

Postmodernists can only tear down the work of others. Despite and creation can not exist in the same soul.


 No.1052282


 No.1052374

File: a7bb782ba24ca89⋯.jpg (332.95 KB, 808x1200, 101:150, babylon-8.jpg)

>>1025454

Quite a lot of ancient mythology are the lingering memories of actual events that shape a culture. How are funnybooks for children mythology? Grow up faggot.


 No.1053664

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>>1025454

I agree with you, actually. Pic related.


 No.1053672

>Modern myths

>Comic books

>Modern

The 1960s aren't modern no matter how much you update the marketing. These things are decaying because they've been dead for decades.


 No.1053704


 No.1053721

File: 489a771134dc694⋯.jpg (24.5 KB, 265x306, 265:306, pbcover-1.jpg)

I miss Paul Bunyan and other tall tales.




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