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 No.13156

I want to improve my lasagna, anything I can do to make it better.

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 No.13160

Bechamel instead of ricotta, use real moz, better meat for the ragu, better tomatoes for the ragu (san marzano) etc etc

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 No.13163

>>13156

That would depend on what you're doing now to make it as it is.

Also.. it would be helpful to know if your goal is a red sauce lasagna or a white sauce lasagna, and if you wish to include meat.

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 No.13169

>>13163

Red sauce with meat

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 No.13170

>>13163

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/23600/worlds-best-lasagna/

practically this one, but no added sugar cause fuck that, some times I add some Italian sausage and other vegetables

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 No.13173

add some smoked bacon into your tomato sauce

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 No.13174

Bolognese sauce recipe as it was registered in 1982 with the Bolognese Chamber of Commerce by the organisation of Bolognese chefs/the Italian culinary academy:

-3 table spoons of olive oil or 50g butter

-chopped onion, carrot, celery: 50g each

-300g of passata or cubed tomato, or a table spoon of tomato concentrate. Decent brands are Mutti, Cirio, Elvea

-300g of coarsely ground beef (shoulder or belly)

-100g of bacon, roughly chopped

-half a glass of red wine (about 120 ml). If you don't know which to choose: try Sangiovese.

-a little broth (unspecified, enough to keep the sauce simmering for 2 hours)

-salt and pepper

-1 glass of milk

-optional: half a glass of cream

-Add the bacon to a heated pan, let it take colour.

-Add olive oil or butter, onion, carrot and celery, let them simmer.

-Add the beef, let it take colour, deglaze with the red wine, let it evaporate.

-Add the tomatoes, let the sauce simmer for 2 hours, add broth when necessary. Salt and pepper.

-Add a glass of milk when the sauce is almost ready. Add cream when using dried pasta.

Notes:

-When the recipe was first written down (by Pellegrino Artusi, 1891) there was no cream, milk or tomatoes. According to him you could add porcini though (use a cheaper mushroom if you have to).

-You can add broth first (0.5l, ladle it in like you would with risotto) and halfway through your tomatoes. You'll have a meatier sauce.

-You can add white wine instead of red, and you can do that at half time as well, giving you a lot more flavour from the wine.

-You can add chili pepper with the onion, celery and carrot and leave out the wine for a spicier budget-friendly sauce.

-You don't have to cook it for 2 hours, 1 is sufficient (but not optimal).

-A teaspoon of sugar will counter the acidity of the tomatoes.

-A small table spoon of soy sauce goes well with the heartiness of both tomatoes, meat and cheese.

-Cheese: a 50/50 mix of Swiss Gruyère and Emmenthal was standard until the late 80s, even in Italy. Avoid their French "equivalents" like the plague. Grana Padano is cheaper than Parmigiano and melts (a lot) better; use it 50/50 with Pecorino. The difference in taste is negligible in warm dishes.

-Tomatoes: the only reason San Marzano is renowned is because it's a type of tomato with very little seeds in it, perfect for making canned cubes or passata. If you're looking for taste, go with Pomodorino del Piennolo del Vesuvio or Pomodoro di Pachino. Or any farmer near you who knows what he's doing really.

-You can play with the cuts of meat you add: tongue, cheek, tail… Check out this ragu recipe by Massimo Bottura, Italy's star chef of the past decade: https://www.goodfood.com.au/recipes/massimo-botturas-recipes-for-ragu-and-spaghetti-cetarese-20141017-3ibue

-Herbs and spices are almost never added, but a bay leaf and/or sprig of rosemary wont hurt at all. Chop the rosemary finely or put it in a pouch; when cooking the leaves tend to fall off and they're annoying to chew on.

-Dried pasta: Felicetti, Gentile, Faella or Martelli are among the top brands. Not sure if they make lasagna sheets though.

Happy cooking.

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 No.13175

>>13170

>adding sugar to lasagna

I agree, this is retarded.

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 No.13176

>>13175

Pisses me off, use a god damn carrot to absorb the acid, then toss the carrot.

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 No.13192

>>13175

>>13170

>>13176

You've obviously never had spapeggy and meatballs.

But seriously, every red sauce recipe has some kind of sweetener. It may not be plain sugar. It may be milk or a sweet(ish) red wine, but there will be a sweet aspect of some kind.

Also, I've never believed anyone that said adding a carrot to a liquid would absorb salt/sugar/acid.

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 No.13193

>>13192

I add sweet red wine or another natural sweetener, white sugar is dumb and gay

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 No.13221

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>>13193

It works for Peggy. Just saiyan.

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 No.13232

>>13170

I was gonna post this. i followed this recipe to a T, and it was pretty average. it was like a small step above frozen lasagna. I still remember being a little disappointed after all that work and ingredients even though this was about 4 years ago.

id use a better cheese instead of ricotta, shredded brisket instead of ground beef.

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 No.13298

>>13156

Well it looks like you are making your own sauce and thats not the worst sauce recipe I have ever seen. Im not a fan of meat in my sauce but when I make sauce I make the meatballs in the same pot the sauce will be made in so you get that flavor in there. Second use Bay Leaves instead of sugar, helps cut acid.

I've been using my grandmother's recipe for years now but you have to go out and spend money on extremely fresh Ricotta and Mozzarella. I put no meat in my lasagna, I let the fresh cheeses and homemade sauce speak for themselves. You can have your meat on the side. If you are into it, you can also make your own pasta which only helps the flavor.

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 No.13314

>>13232

Personally, I go cheap out and do the poorman's lasagna… cottage cheese instead of ricotta.

I like the way the cheese gets gooier instead of dryer.

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 No.13333

>>13314

this is a good idea. i dont know why i never tried this. maybe cream cheese too. i can get that cheap too.

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 No.13334

>>13333

Cream cheese has… not cheese in it. Maybe the carrageenan and (carob bean or guar or xanthan) gum in it isn't a thing for you.

Drain the excess whey of the cottage cheese. Doesn't need to be bone dry, but you don't need all that liquid. I think that scooping it with a slotted spoon (if you have one with small enough slots) would be fine, otherwise a standard spoon but tip the whey off the side. Cheesecloth in a collander for an hour will probably dry it too much, but your tastes may vary from mine.

Good luck in the kitchen.

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