/christianity/ - Christian Theology

>>1046

The Bible operates under the assumption from start to finish that your physical nation is a part of your identity. In fact at the very end of the Revelation, nations still exist (Rev. 21:24-26) and you are still a part of your nation, that part of your identity is never removed at any time. It is the most prominent attribute even.

There is also many more references to bring context here. For instance, the Bible says the following.

Deuteronomy 17:15

Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother.

Lamentations 5:1-2

Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach.

Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens.

Hosea 5:10

The princes of Judah were like them that remove the bound: therefore I will pour out my wrath upon them like water.

Hosea 7:8-9

Ephraim, he hath mixed himself among the people; Ephraim is a cake not turned.

Strangers have devoured his strength, and he knoweth it not: yea, gray hairs are here and there upon him, yet he knoweth not.

Isaiah 10:12-13

I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.

For he saith, By the strength of my hand I have done it, and by my wisdom; for I am prudent: and I have removed the bounds of the people, and have robbed their treasures, and I have put down the inhabitants like a valiant man:

1 Timothy 5:8

But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

>And there's Galatians 3:28.

Yes, that same verse also says neither male nor female and we already know that Scripture doesn't teach social equality between men and women. So this is about equal value in Christ, not about having equal roles or some sort of socialist equality. If someone wants to use that they have to be ultra-radical feminists as well, which contradicts Scripture.

The nation is the extension of the family. In your life there is a special role for your own familty and nation you were born into, this isn't even a hard concept to grasp until recently. You might even say its naturally ordered like so.

>But whenever I think about this, it feels like it's displeasing to Christ.

I thought the Lord commanded to honor your father and mother.

Listen to what the Scripture says. Don't listen to the children of the deceiver. You know who they are, and they're out to confuse you on this.

Not only is it acceptable, the separation of the nations is God's design

Acts 17:26 God set the bounds of the nations

>>1046

>Any scriptures or suggestions for books or podcasts that talk about White Identitarianism specifically in the context of Christianity would be helpful.

I'm listening to the Northwest front podcast and I'm trying to discern if that movement is compatible with Christian lifestyle

The political cesspool is a white nationalist Christian podcast out of Tennessee. The host James Edwards had his church disfellowshipped from the southern Baptist convention for his alleged racism. They regularly have Jared Taylor, Richard Spencer (cuck), Paul nehlen on

>>1046

>But whenever I think about this, it feels like it's displeasing to Christ.

Why would you feel that way? Do you feel like it's either your nation or Christ? It's a false dichotomy. It's Satan's most basic bitch trick, when he sets up 2 good things against each other as if they were mutually exclusive. He does this because he knows that you will choose one over the other and then you will start hating the one you did not choose.

>God says to welcome the stranger

So? Welcoming a stranger literally means "Hello there" and not being rude to him. But he remains a stranger, he is an outsider, and for good reason.

>And there's Galatians 3:28.

It literally doesn't say anything about nations being irrelevant or wrong in this world. It only proclaims that Jesus came for us all and all of us humans have the choice to accept or reject him.

Thanks, this is really informative. I will listen to Northwest Front and Political Cesspool.

I'm asking about specifically nations divided by race though, not just nations in general. Merely separating ourselves into groups can certainly be biblical, but what about separating ourselves by race? Does God condone this? Because anyone of any race can be Christian, and that's the only reason why I'm struggling with the concept of excluding nonwhites from a country. I know there are general differences between races, IQ, values, behavior, etc, but don't a lot of these differences go away if people have Christianity in common?

>false dichotomy

great point, actually just heard this at church last Sunday

>>1064

"Nation" here means race

The Greek word is "ethnos", like "ethnicity"

>>1064

>a lot of these differences go away if people have Christianity in common

Not true.

>I'm asking about specifically nations divided by race though

Same thing.

If people belong to the same nation and largely breed within their own group they will by definition become a "race", meaning that they will become a distinct group.

Separating ourselves by gender is okay, just look at nuns and monks. If something as basic as gender is grounds for separation, than something as full of history and meaning as race and etnicity is also grounds for it.

Also it is wrong to separate the idea of nation from the idea of race. Nation literally means "to birth". There is no such thing as a nation of strangers.

>>1066

>Separating ourselves by gender is okay

No it isn't.

>just look at nuns and monks

The exaltation of celibacy and isolation is anti-biblical and anti-life. We are commanded to be fruitful and multiply, and to preach the gospel to all nations, not sit in a cell and masturbate all day.

>>1064

>I'm asking about specifically nations divided by race though

If the nation does not have a tangible basis for its existence, we have no justification to say it really exists at all.

>>1075

>No it isn't.

Yes it is.

School were gender segregated until recently.

The rest of your post is simply written in bad faith.

>>1078

>Yes it is.

No it isn't.

>School were gender segregated until recently

But society wasn't

>The rest of your post is simply written in bad faith.

I think what you mean to say is the facts I posted hurt your feelings

>>1080

>No it isn't.

Yes it is.

>But society wasn't

There were clear male and female spaces. Today we have all traditionally male spaces being invaded by women. There was a degree of separation that seems impossible today.

>I think what you mean to say is the facts I posted hurt your feelings

No, your foul intentions did.

>>1097

>Yes it is.

No it isn't. Stop being a mgtow

>There were clear male and female spaces

This thread is not about racial segregation in some places but racial segregation on a national scale. Unless you can find me a nation of nothing but men or nothing but women, there is no parity.

>No, your foul intentions did

So yes, the facts hurt your feels

>>1149

>No it isn't. Stop being a mgtow

Yes it is. Also stop with the adhominems.

Also the whole gender segregation thing was brought up to point out how segregation is a very appropriate thing depending on what we are talking about.

Also pointing out how you hurt my feels doesnt justify your intentions.

>>1046

I wouldn't exactly condone pride per se but desiring to be with your own people and not among strangers is pretty natural considering the law is written on the heart of every man, and the law is kinda against mingling with strangers en mass, just look at what happened to babel

In addition to this you have to look at the consequences of multi-culti societies in the west; its a complete and utter disaster for everyone involved

This is not to commit blasphemy against the Lord however, as in him we are all one within the body of Christ, but this is of spirit, not of flesh, and as you are aware the flesh is hostile to God