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Literally wanting to put the penis in the excretory system. The conversation ends there, there are no more arguments. How does that idea even enter someone's mind to begin with. Demons.

So it feels good for them, taking heroin also feels good probably.

As any kind of adultery, or over eating, or sloth.

Most sins feels good.

The argument presupposes intelligent design, so the fag enabler would have to reconcile his behavior with some kind of theism.

My quick response would be to point out that Christianity has always been opposed to hedonism, we don't believe in a God who desires our best pleasure (supposing the science claim is true).

>>848550

also this

Literally putting your member in a colon is clearly not any kind of design. Even besides a human penis, having any foreign object in the colon is negative.

If you're having this argument on halfchan you could post an image of a prolapsed anus for dramatic effect

>>848559

>we don't believe in a God who desires our best pleasure

There's no need for this kind of insane lie. Just point out fags are miserable and commit suicide.

>>848561

What is the lie?

>>848562

The lie is in the greentext. Of course God desires our eternal pleasure. He wants us to go to heaven.

>>848566

I am referring to hedonism

>>848545

Humans derive pleasure from all sorts of abominable actions, sadly. It's part of fallen nature and not part of God's original design. Just like death wasn't a part of God's original design and isn't truly "normal" either. The world, and especially mankind, is in a state of entropy and sin ever since the fall. It is constantly inventing and habituating itself to new forms of corruption. Who knows, nature might even be literally mutating and "evolving" to support all of these sins (a scary thought). But one wouldn't be aware of how wrong the state of the world is unless you had a "baseline" to relate it to. Unless you were told about this pristine example and then could compare it to our world. And we indeed have that: this is Christ himself. Before that, God gave the Law to inform humanity of just how badly they've fallen from his intent, but it could only do so much.

Last but not least, this is the point of baptism: to die with Christ, and be "born from above" [John 3:3]. To come out of the "matrix" of this world, if you will. Only then will people begin to understand just how broken nature is, and join God to work in reversing it. They are blind to it otherwise. Science isn't going to help. It doesn't have the tools for it or any exposure to anything better. It doesn't know where to even begin an assessment. To use a flimsy analogy, that's like listening to a food reviewer who only reviews junk food. He has favorites and say this or that is the best of the bunch… but in actuality, it's all complete crap. None of the things he reviews is truly "best". It's still all junk food at the end of the day and this reviewer is a pitiable simpleton. Yet he doesn't know any better. Everything available to him encourages low standards. He's never had a good homecooked meal or met a true chef. So his idea of "good" is very limited in scope. This is similar to a scientist, who only limits his studies to the material world. They don't even know how to talk about "life" without also talking about "death". They go in hand in hand in his mind and he knows no better.

Prostate massaging is clinically suggested to be significantly instrumental toward maintaining prostate health but subjecting one's orifices to abnormal stretching repeatedly, increases the chances of developing incontinence.

>>848545

We have a fallen nature and live in a fallen world, it's only natural that things contrary to God's intentional design up being exploited for temporal pleasure

It doesn't. I fell for the degeneracy and had a few myself. It's just an internal orgasm no stronger than a penile orgasm.