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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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How is it made? Why are all other religions/philosophical systems disregarded? Why must God have even founded a religion that concerns humans (or a religion at all)?

a6f599  No.819332

I used to be a deist. I grew up in a Christian family that did not attend church but was not "non practicing," so I liked the idea of God. The reason why I became a deist was two-fold. One, because I just didn't like what people claimed the Bible said (I wouldn't dare read it out of fear it would get to me). I also didn't like the idea of good non Christians going to Hell even though they were "good." Two, and perhaps the strongest impulse, was because of the wild claims in the Bible. After all, Jesus is said to have performed miracles, been born of a virgin, and resurrected. I grew up with 24/7 atheist propaganda been shot at me from all angles and blindly swallowed the narrative given to me.

So, I put it together. One, I couldn't deny that there must be a God, given the nature of creation. But I didn't want God to disagree with my political beliefs because obviously I was the wisest, smartest person in the world. I also believed in science and evidence, really just buzzwords I idolized, and so refused to believe the wild claims. And thus, a deist was born.

Then I actually began to read the Bible and do some serious studying. I also did studying on Islam and eastern religion in general as well as Christian cults like Mormons and Jehova's Witnesses. But really, the other religions were just courtesy, I knew deep in my heart that the only candidate was Christianity because of who Jesus is. All of these religions account for Jesus, because He is the greatest stumbling block in history, He cannot be waved away as a mere man. Honestly, deism in and of itself is a Christian tradition borne out of pride - how many great deists have come from any other traditions apart from Christianity?

There are two main conclusions that I came to that addressed my two impulses after actually investing into actual study of the associated material. To address my first concern: if God is real, then what am I to Him? If He wills that black cars are evil, who am I to speak back to the creator of the heavens and the earth? Really, my first problem is pride of my own ego, where I was wise in my own eyes. My second issue was solved as follows: 1) if God exists, then by virtue of His being God, then He has sovereignty over His creation: ergo, miracles are to be expected from a sovereign God. 2) if a miracle were common, then by its very definition it would cease to be a miracle. Why would Jesus' resurrection be of any importance if resurrection were recorded in history apart from His works? It would be like a man who conquers Egypt: an amazing achievement, and only a handful of peoples have done it, but it is not in and of itself something of God, because it is part of the natural order. Miracles are amazing because they should be impossible, and the stories of these events in the Bible are noteworthy because they are not common.




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