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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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4bd787  No.812496

Any thoughts on it? Is it pro or anti-Catholic in its message fom what you'v seen? Its a game based on Christendom in Bohemia. Some of the storyline or dialogue do involve strong Catholic/Christian elements

You also see the depiction of caring/loving or paternal/fatherly relationship between lords and their subjects as once existed under Christendom?

If modern day societies of such existed they would be company towns that are officially Catholic in religion.

986c03  No.812500

I've played and quite enjoyed the game. It will probably the last vidya I played, since I'm not much into that anymore.

From one side, it was refreshing because you get to see a Medieval themed story that doesn't fall for the "Dark Ages" meme. On the other hand, I'd say it has a Protestant Hussite bias (Czechs seem to make that a matter of national pride) , because the Church is generally depicted in a negative light.


daa725  No.812774

It’s up to interpretation. I haven’t played through the entire game, but my experience is that generally on the surface it is extremely pro-Christian/Catholic in comparison to anything else you’ll find in mainstream gaming. It presents a historically accurate representation of how core the church is in the lives of the average person in the medieval era. Churches are in every town, everyone greets one another with phrases like “God be with you”

Beyond that surface value, some questionable and outright anti-catholic/Christian themed emerge. Some example side quests include carousing with a hypocritical rural priest who drunkenly rants a bunch of anti-Vatican rhetoric. In order to complete the side quest without jumping through a bunch of hoops, you have to repeat the rhetoric at mass the next day, which seems pretty heavy handed.

Romance options have a heavily modern slant to them as well. You’re given a few romance options, but they’re all treated like modern hookup culture. Marriage is not an option, and sex happens after a small handful of fetch quests. Once sex is achieved, the romance option magically turns into another NPC who is limited to a small set of preset greetings. Even romance options in games like GTA and Skyrim have a sense of permanence to them should you wish them so long as you want them to continue. This game slams the door on them though after the sex cutscene completes. The fact that you don’t even get an option to continue in some capacity seems like an endorsement for casual sex culture.


42531c  No.812789

>>812496

I do not really like that main mission that have you steal the letter to impersonate a person about to be entered into the monastery as a monk so you can supposedly commit murder there to prove yourself to the brigands so you can infiltrate their ranks for your lord for the greater good. And the monks drink and gamble without the head monk knowing it, you can even threaten to rat them out and they will not give a shit because they know the head monk will take their word over yours.

>>812774

The romance feels like tacked-on after thought; other than that I dislike other 'sexual' encounters. One have you commit adultery with the wife of the friend of your lord who is also your benefactor; one have you debauch with a priest in orgy the night before Sunday; other is just a regular bathhouse visit.

All in all. I do not feel anything 'Christian' from it. It is a good medieval life adventure game from a realistic point (people will be people i.e. even priests are not infallible, but there are also people who are devout and devoted). It neither paints the faith in bad or good light, just what really happens back then.


4bdcb6  No.812812

>>812774

>Some example side quests include carousing with a hypocritical rural priest who drunkenly rants a bunch of anti-Vatican rhetoric. In order to complete the side quest without jumping through a bunch of hoops, you have to repeat the rhetoric at mass the next day, which seems pretty heavy handed.

I don't really see that quest as outright anti-church as it shows that Priests are human too and the priest in question had a criminal past. It also shows why there were some protestants in the game as well as they saw corruption and reacted against it.


18d2e7  No.812938

>>812774

>>812789

>>812812

The romance does seem like it's only there to get teenage boys to buy it. It adds nothing, much like sex scenes in television and film.

I always find the

>but it shows the reality and greyness

argument for including degenerate themes to be really subversive. Maybe there's a place for it, but the logical extreme is Game of Thrones where everyone is over the top degenerate and evil.


f791ab  No.812941

I'd say it's the best game of 2018.

Vat cucks just hate it because it points out the vice of the caths back in the 14-15th century when the church has been a political force for the last 100-200 years now.




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