Creating modern counterparts to orders like the Templars to protect the faith or its property/flock

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Creating modern counterparts to orders like the Templars to protect the faith or its property/flock Christanon 06/02/19 (Sun) 20:10:26 8a5c43 No.811750

By modern standards orders like the Templars or the Teutonic Knights would essentially be considered Armed Security Guards (With the difference being that they were Monastic Guards/Knights when it came to the Templars) who's job is to protect missionaries, pilgrims as well as churches/relics from persecutors (And especially from terrorists, jihadists or suicide bombers).

So why don't we create Catholic based both Armed and Unarmed Security groups dedicated to doing this once again? Overseas where terrorists kill Christians or attack them as well as domestic accordingly to what is allowed.

Whether its paid or unpaid, if unpaid we can muster faithful or parish members who have experience (Or want to get some) that are willing to volunteer as well depending.

Do you know anybody capable or willing to found such a group or any of them? My parish apparently got forced out of holding rallies in the park and stopped because some anti-Catholics threw objects at them. Imagine if we had some guards like in the olden days.

All you have to do is have a master license and register a security group or company that provides 'services' to Catholics/Christians in your country/around the world depending.

Christanon 06/02/19 (Sun) 20:16:18 8a5c43 No.811751

In the case of being within the west or our countries what uses do you think a Catholic security 'order' could have? I know they most likely would be unarmed depending but would be able to use 'reasonable force' as law often states.

Overseas in countries where Christians or missionaries are killed they would have to be armed.

My priest told a story of how some people once desecrated the tabernacle of the church and took it outside to be run over by a car.

Christanon 06/02/19 (Sun) 20:18:37 8a5c43 No.811752

If this was done I wonder if the 'successors' to those like the Templars/Teutonics who currently only do 'humanitarian stuff' would be willing to start providing security services to Christians again as they once did also?

Christanon 06/02/19 (Sun) 20:22:49 e20cf4 No.811754

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>>811750

In a world where Catholic kids standing still and smiling are demonized, how do you think this would go over?

Christanon 06/02/19 (Sun) 20:26:42 8a5c43 No.811755

>>811754

The modern-day successors to those orders that once provided security services to Catholics would basically step in, and then warn those such as the man in that picture to step away.

So if he still refuses to comply then they would try to escort him away, and then after that use 'reasonable force' if people him still refuse to comply after that.

Depending on the situation they may serve to call law enforcement while recording everything that happened on their logs so that the persecutors cannot lie.

Christanon 06/02/19 (Sun) 20:28:38 8a5c43 No.811756

>>811754

That is if they were unarmed atleast, depending on the country they might even be able to use a taser on people like the guy approaching the kid if he crosses certain boundaries.

Christanon 06/02/19 (Sun) 20:31:20 8a5c43 No.811757

So the 'Grandmaster' of the order by modern standards would technically be the owner of the Catholic Security group, or the one who holds the license that allows them to own it + employ people to provide security services to Catholics.

Christanon 06/02/19 (Sun) 20:43:11 344c60 No.811760

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta#Military_Corps

The Knights Hospitaller are still around, integrated in the Italian Armed forces but also doing independent foreign relief missions on their own. Thing is, I don't think there's a real necessity for military orders in the modern world, nor any real reason to form one besides it being cool and "memey".

Christanon 06/02/19 (Sun) 20:47:49 8a5c43 No.811762

>>811760

We need an order or organization that provides security services to Catholics/Christians in this day and age however still.

Since by modern standards that is basically what they did. It wouldn't be a 'military order' but as mentioned above.

Christanon 06/02/19 (Sun) 22:53:25 afa088 No.811793

>>811760

>Thing is, I don't think there's a real necessity for military orders in the modern world

Meanwhile christians are one of the most persecuted groups in the world in regions like China and ISIS-territory.

Honestly a new monastic military order that's trained for self-defence, rescue missions and general safe-keeping and relief while stationed is long overdue.

Christanon 06/03/19 (Mon) 09:41:05 58aa19 No.811908

>>811793

Yeah we already have military orders called PMCs and they call themselves 'security guards' when overseas.

Essentially 'security organizations' under today's system are the modern day successor to the military orders of the middle ages if you think about it.

Its merely the name and dress code that differs but they are technically privately owned orders of people who provide security.

The CEO of Black Water for example was/is a GrandMaster of a modern day military order.

Christanon 06/03/19 (Mon) 09:47:46 c3dd6a No.811910

>>811793

I mean for example the CEO of BlackWater would be a Grandmaster by all old standards when security companies were basically 'military orders' or 'mercenary companies' back in the day.*

While martyrdom is noble, how is it not noble either to put your life on the line to defend the body of Christ and the flock or possibly sacrifice your own life in doing so? They are willing to die for the congregation fighting to protect it if need be.

Christanon 06/03/19 (Mon) 09:49:51 c3dd6a No.811914

Furthermore adding to the above, it would not be necessarily 'waging aggressive expansionist war' if the enemy attacked first and you are fighting them off in Self-Defense.

This was essentially what the Templars did largely, by all modern standards they were 'Security Guards' who protected Catholic congregations, pilgrims, missionaries, churches and relics with their lives.