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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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1124c5  No.809953

Christanons, I need your help. My dad keeps saying that we can't curse jews because they're "God's chosen people" and, according to him, the Bible says that those who curse the jews will have bad luck or something like that. I wanna know what those passages mean. Thanks.

bef077  No.809954

>>809953

Have him read Romans, all of it, very slowly.


451543  No.809962

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The jews are his chosen people, sure, but they still belong to the Synagogue of Satan and while at the end times, depending on your interpretation they will be converted to christianity, that doesnt mean you need to treat them as holy people in the here and now


1124c5  No.809973

>>809962

I read the passages and it says "those who say they're jews and are not".


1124c5  No.809974

>>809962

>>809973

Now that I'm reading John 8, I'm getting it. Thanks for the help, folks.


5a1af5  No.809975

>>809962

>The jews are his chosen people, sure,

Wrong. The covenant has been fulfilled with Jesus being born. There is no more old covenant, there are just a bunch of people LARPing. The so called Jew is no more a "Jew" than Black Hebrew Israelites. They are all Larpers. The chosen people is the Church. There is no more circumcision but baptism. Cutting your wee-wee does nothing anymore (actually it damns you to hell).

The church is the New Israel and you become God's chosen by baptism.


ef6aa3  No.810029

>>809975

While I am angry at my parents for circumcising me, it actually wasnt a sin for me to be circumcised, since I was circumcised before my baptism and therefore before my calling


a0c541  No.810031

>>810029

Forgive them, for they fell for the "it's good for his health" meme. Than correct them.


ef6aa3  No.810033

>>810031

Oh I corrected them. It's really not healthy to turn an internal organ into an external one


5bf244  No.810036

>>809975

It was fulfilled at His death, not His birth.


a46093  No.810045

>>809975

>born

You mean risen. Otherwise solid post


5a1af5  No.810048

>>810045

>>810029

If they circumcised you for religious reasons then yes it is a mortal sin to do that. You didn't sin assuming you were a child.

>>810036

>>810045

No the Abrahamic Covenant was fulfilled with the Birth of Messiah. That's the fulfillment of the promise with God, that the Messiah would be born through them.

I know for a fact that the church started not after he was risen but when his side was pierced, that's when the Church started. I suppose theologians might have different opinions on whether the Israelites were under the Mosaic law when Jesus was alive. He seemed to abrogate the Mosaic Law already when he was alive, so I don't really know. I still think that the Covenant was that the Messiah would be born through them. But yes the church started only after his side was pierced. He did start changing some of the Mosaic Law like divorce (and possibly eating, although he made it more clear to Peter post resurrection) so yeah I am not really sure. If anyone has some Doctors of the Church's writing on this matter that would be interesting, but either way it doesn't seem like that big of a deal.


ef6aa3  No.810053

>>810048

The church started with creation, Christianity us the same faith Noah, Job, David, and Abraham all had


5bf244  No.810061

>>810048

I'm used to people using covenant just for New or Mosaic, with the Mosaic one being finished with John 19:30.


e85aaa  No.810080

>>809953

Just quote him Rev 3:9 till he understands that Zionist evangelicalism is nothing more than traditions of men.


5a1af5  No.810149

>>810053

No this is wrong, unless you're a Prot which means nothing makes sense to you. From the CCC

766 The Church is born primarily of Christ's total self-giving for our salvation, anticipated in the institution of the Eucharist and fulfilled on the cross. "The origin and growth of the Church are symbolized by the blood and water which flowed from the open side of the crucified Jesus."171 "For it was from the side of Christ as he slept the sleep of death upon the cross that there came forth the 'wondrous sacrament of the whole Church.'"172 As Eve was formed from the sleeping Adam's side, so the Church was born from the pierced heart of Christ hanging dead on the cross.173


ef6aa3  No.810157

>>810149

Are you trying to tell me that Abraham and Job had a different faith then us? If so, who did Abraham worship


8c40b5  No.810181

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>>809962

Adding to the list. Jews *were* God's chosen people but I can't understand how anyone who reads the Gospel can honestly say that when Christ came the wheat was separated from the chaff in regard to who was truly God's chosen people. See: John 8.


8c40b5  No.810182

>>810181

Wasn't*


762f14  No.810203

>>810029

>>809975

>>810033

>>810031

Can somebody explain to me the purposes of circumcision, both then and now? I know Biblical circumcision was different from modern circumcision both in how it actually was done and the purpose, but I don't actually know what the difference was in either way.


8019e3  No.810217

>For you also have suffered the same things from your own countrymen, even as they have from the Jews: 15Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men.

>1 Thessalonians 2:14-15

Saint Paul writes in Sacred Scripture that the Jews are the enemies of all men. Would your father consider this to be "cursing the Jews"? Because if so then he must also think that Scripture is flawed.


ef6aa3  No.810222

>>810203

It is a sin to get circumcised for religious reasons now, as saint paul says that you shouldn't circumcise after you are called. Most people like my parents get circumcised for nonreligious reasons. as they fall for the "its healthy for the baby" meme that the jews have pushed into becoming a fact in this clown world


10ed66  No.810230

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>>810149

>>810157

From the "Catholic Encyclopedia", a very good source on Catholic teachings and terminology:

>As signifying the Church, the word Ecclesia is used by Christian writers, sometimes in a wider, sometimes in a more restricted sense.

>It is employed to denote all who, from the beginning of the world, have believed in the one true God, and have been made His children by grace. In this sense, it is sometimes distinguished, signifying the Church before the Old Covenant, the Church of the Old Covenant, or the Church of the New Covenant. Thus St. Gregory (Book V, Epistle 18) writes: "Sancti ante legem, sancti sub lege, sancti sub gratiâ, omnes hi . . . in membris Ecclesiæ sunt constituti" (The saints before the Law, the saints under the Law, and the saints under grace — all these are constituted members of the Church).

>It may signify the whole body of the faithful, including not merely the members of the Church who are alive on earth but those, too, whether in heaven or in purgatory, who form part of the one communion of saints. Considered thus, the Church is divided into the Church Militant, the Church Suffering, and the Church Triumphant.

>It is further employed to signify the Church Militant of the New Testament. Even in this restricted acceptation, there is some variety in the use of the term. The disciples of a single locality are often referred to in the New Testament as a Church (Revelation 2:18; Romans 16:4; Acts 9:31), and St. Paul even applies the term to disciples belonging to a single household (Romans 16:5; 1 Corinthians 16:19, Colossians 4:15; Philemon 1-2). Moreover, it may designate specially those who exercise the office of teaching and ruling the faithful, the Ecclesia Docens (Matthew 18:17), or again the governed as distinguished from their pastors, the Ecclesia Discens (Acts 20:28). In all these cases the name belonging to the whole is applied to a part. The term, in its full meaning, denotes the whole body of the faithful, both rulers and ruled, throughout the world (Ephesians 1:22; Colossians 1:18). It is in this meaning that the Church is treated of in the present article. As thus understood, the definition of the Church given by Bellarmine is that usually adopted by Catholic theologians: "A body of men united together by the profession of the same Christian Faith, and by participation in the same sacraments, under the governance of lawful pastors, more especially of the Roman Pontiff, the sole vicar of Christ on earth" (Coetus hominum ejusdem christianæ fidei professione, et eorumdem sacramentorum communione colligatus, sub regimine legitimorum pastorum et præcipue unius Christi in Terris vicarii Romani Pontificis. — Bellarmine, De Eccl., III, ii, 9). The accuracy of this definition will appear in the course of the article.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03744a.htm


762f14  No.810233

>>810222

Didn't Paul have somebody circumcised in Acts?


7a248c  No.810249

>the Bible says that those who curse the jews will have bad luck

That comes from the notes in the Scofield bible, the fount of "Christian" zionism. It's not Christianity, it's Scofieldism - a cancer.


ef6aa3  No.810256

>>810233

No, St Paul says in Galatians Chapter 5 that the act of becoming circumcised severs you from Gods people


ee6f3e  No.810259

>>809953

This is a very difficult topic to discuss due to its overly emotional nature, not to mention the fact that most threads about jews are designated psyops.

The entire point of threads like these is to push people towards one of the two simplistic conclusions and destroy the very possibility of developing a nuanced view on the situation through dialogue.

The simplistic conclusions are:

a, the jews are Gods chosen and they have never done anything wrong and we must serve their interest no matter what.

This conclusion is utterly false because even just a cursory glance at jewish involvement in the vice industry should be a giant red flag, not to speak of other shady dealings and their involvement in communism. However the one merit of this stance is that it seeks to be merciful and forgiving. However both mercy and forgiveness have an appropriate context in which they are proper.

b, the Jews are the synagogue of Satan, they are evil and for their crimes they deserve punishment. They are evil, demonic creatures who prey on the weak and spread degeneracy, sin and corruption throughout the world. This is good because its motivated by justice and a thirst to right wrongs and stop evil.

While on the surface this conclusion has way more merit than the other one, it usually turns people hateful, resentful and generally emotional and easy to trigger, as such people who really hate jews are very easy to control and manipulate into doing some outrageously stupid thing like shooting up a synagogue, which literally serves jewish interests because they can complain about anti semitism and get more and more institutional power and popular support from people who believe is conclusion "a".

As such a simplistic view is simply not feasible.

A nuanced view is neccessary that reconciles the good of both sides and exposes the jew for what it is.

My opinion is that while the jews are wicked creatures, thats all the more reason to have pity for them, however our love and pity for them must be ordinate, meaning that it shouldn't come before more important things. To have pity for the jew is proper and right, but to use these feelings as an excuse to let them get away with the evil they inflict on the world is utterly sinful and unjust.


1e67eb  No.810269

>>810259

>My opinion is that while the jews are wicked creatures, thats all the more reason to have pity for them, however our love and pity for them must be ordinate, meaning that it shouldn't come before more important things. To have pity for the jew is proper and right, but to use these feelings as an excuse to let them get away with the evil they inflict on the world is utterly sinful and unjust.

Based and breadpilled.

I can tell that you're a /pol convert.


da6666  No.810274

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>>810203

This is how it was done and what changed.


762f14  No.810315

>>810256

Acts 16:3 "Paul wanted to take him along on the journey, so he circumcised him because of the Jews who lived in that area, for they all knew that his father was a Greek."

Was there some reason he had Timothy circumcised but later didn't circumcise people?


aa5152  No.810322

>>809953

OP, I made this post >>810165 on another thread, but it's also pertinent to your question. It's about if Christianity has Jewish roots or not, so it relates to the fact that since Jews rejected Jesus, they're not God's chosen people, and what rejecting Jesus means.


5bf244  No.810386

>>810315

Timothy wasn't circumcised to fulfill the law, but so he could pass among the Jews and spread the good news.


69ae3e  No.810407

>>810386

I find it really strange to think they were doing penis checks for religion …


ef6aa3  No.810439

>>810407

Didnt your school have penis inspection day? When the gym teacher would pull aside male students into his office one at a time to inspect your penis


e5c89a  No.810489

>>810439

No, because my school wasn't run by Molochians.




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