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There are other ways, but partaking and being a part of the body of Christ is the most practical and easily achieved way of drawing closer to God and reaching the Kingdom.

>John 6:54-59

>54 Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.

>55 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.

>56 For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed.

>57 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him.

>58 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth me, the same also shall live by me.

>59 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead. He that eateth this bread, shall live for ever.

Luke 22:19-20

>19 And taking bread, he gave thanks, and brake; and gave to them, saying: This is my body, which is given for you. Do this for a commemoration of me.

>20 In like manner the chalice also, after he had supped, saying: This is the chalice, the new testament in my blood, which shall be shed for you.

>HOC EST ENIM CORPUS MEAM

You tell me, anon, do you need the Eucharist to receive salvation and is the Eucharist the true and transubstantiated body, blood, soul, and divinity of Christ?

>>805763

Yes and no. One can achieve eternal union with God without it, so did all the patriarchs who were righteous, virtuous pagans, people who didn't know the Church, etc, but once one comes into knowledge of the Church and can receive it, they need to at least once a year, and it is super effective for all things.

>>805796

>why does the body and blood of christ look like a cracker in the catholic church?

Because transubstantiation (change of substance) occurs during Holy Communion, not transformation (change of form). You might as well be asking why Jesus Christ, Son of God, resembled a mere man and not something more "Godly". Vid related does a decent job of explaining it.

>>805796

>cracker

Because Passover bread is unleavened

No

Faith alone is sufficient

>>805812

>You might as well be asking why Jesus Christ, Son of God, resembled a mere man and not something more "Godly"

I hope this isn't an attempt to deny that Christ was God in substance or something

>>805828

>54 Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.

>>55 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.

>>56 For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed.

did He lie?

>>805845

>Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: "God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get." But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, "God, be merciful to me, a sinner!" I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other.

Did He lie?

>>805857

"For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord."

Not only did He not lie, He corroborated what He inspired St. Paul to say!

>>805858

>Not only did He not lie

Then we're agreed that the sinner is justified by faith alone, glad we could work that out :)

>>805860

Faith without works is dead.

In any case, the scripture you posted here >>805857 corroborates >>805858 St. Paul's admonition to take of the Eucharist as long as you interiorly believe it is truly the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ.

Why not give Mass a shot, friend?

>>805862

>Why not give Mass a shot, friend?

Because Paul gave me a stern warning against it in Galatians 1:8-9

>>805829

No, just the opposite. On one hand, protestants/atheists reject the Eucharist as it does not physically appear to be the body, blood, and soul of Christ (they do not know the difference between transubstantiation and transformation), and on the other hand, they call us cannibals. Anything to slander the Catholic faith.

>>805865

No he didn't