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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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bd98c6  No.805747

People that pray the rosary daily (or just often) - how do you find enough stuff to think about? I heard that you're supposed to contemplate the mysteries as you pray the decades, but at this point I've prayed it so many times times and thought every mystery through to the best of my ability, that now I can barely contemplate anything. I had a lot of good contemplations that changed my life, but now I struggle to think of anything that I haven't already thought and I don't know if I should really keep praying the rosary if I just recite the prayers without much meditation.

b1a0fc  No.805760

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>>805747

When I pray a decade of the Rosary I make it a mission of mine to try to imagine myself as one of the people that was physically there. For example:

>I imagine myself as St. Joseph during the 3rd Joyful Mystery. Trying to fathom the rush of emotions he must be feeling knowing he is the adopted father of the Messiah.

>I imagine myself as Pontius Pilate trying to figure out why the Jews would condem an innocent man in the 2nd Sorrowful Mystery

>I imagine myself as Moses during the 4th Luminous Mystery and what joy he must have felt giving advice to the Messiah from heaven

>I imagine myself as St. John as he witnesses the coronation of the Blessed Virgin Mary as the Queen of heaven

Things like that. Assuming you haven't been doing that already. I also like to try and strive to break a previous record on the amount of decades I pray in a day.


6c8415  No.805771

>>805747

I have different things to think about. Sometimes I do like this guy >>805760 , sometimes I try to apply the principle of a mystery to my life (for example when I pray first glorious mystery I think about my future resurrection in Christ and how big of a gift it is), sometimes I just marvel in wonders of the Gospel. But most of the time I just get distracted and then I to relate what I thinking about with the mystery I'm currently at.


28eb3c  No.805774

>>805747

You don't. You find depth rather than variety, I think of one aspect of the mystery I'm focused on over, and over, and over, without changing. Your brain learns to calm down and just accept that for 25 minutes this is just what's happening.


d78a47  No.805800

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What can I as a non-Christian do other then what I'm doing right now, mainly reading The Bible and everything I can get my hands on regarding the Catholic and Orthodox church, before I decide on converting? I want to start praying daily for the Lord to give me the strength and the will to continue on my journey towards the Christian faith. How do I pray? I have done what Jesus has told me to do in Matthew 6:9-13, but I want to go deeper. Should I get a get a Rosary or Prayer rope to help me? Will God listen (care is a better word) to my prayers even though I'm not and have never been a Christian?

I'm pretty much alone in this and I have no one to turn to for guidance expect for the Internet. I don't feel ready yet to go to a church and talk to a priest, I take this seriously and because I'm still in the very early stages of my journey I want to understand and be sincere to myself about what I'm about to get myself into before I profess my faith to someone else.


50fd6a  No.805805

What does this have to do with Christianity? The Lord Jesus Christ warned against speaking repetitions of prayer in Matthew 6.

But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

Matthew 6:7-8


6c8415  No.805806

>>805800

>Should I get a get a Rosary or Prayer rope to help me?

Yes

>Will God listen (care is a better word) to my prayers even though I'm not and have never been a Christian?

It's not going to give you any merit in heaven, but God is going to listen and He may give you some graces to keep you on the right track, perhaps help you start overcoming your vices. But even if it's not the case, you should still do it, just to get into the habit of prayer, so that when you become a Christian you can start with basic things done and not waste any time


45c013  No.805809

>>805800

>What can I as a non-Christian do other then what I'm doing right now, mainly reading The Bible and everything I can get my hands on regarding the Catholic and Orthodox church, before I decide on converting?

Why did you choose a denomination before even having a relationship with God?

>Will God listen (care is a better word) to my prayers even though I'm not and have never been a Christian?

The living God will not only listen, He will answer you as well. And then show you what to do next.


b1a0fc  No.805819

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>>805805

Learn greek for "vain repetitions" doesn't mean what you think it means.


42b636  No.806018

>>805805

From the Haydock Douay-Rheims Commentary

Ver. 7. [Speak not much.[2] ] Long prayer is not here forbidden; for Christ himself spent whole nights in prayer: and he sayeth, we must pray always; and the apostle, that we must pray without intermission, 1 Thessalonians v.; and the holy Church hath had from the beginning her canonical hours for prayer, but rhetorical and elaborate prayer, as if we thought to persuade God by our eloquence, is forbidden; the collects of the Church are most brief and most effectual. (St. Augustine, ep. 121. chap. viii, ix, x.) (Bristow) — Perseverance in prayer is recommended us by the example of the poor widow, who by her importunity prevailed over the unjust judge. (St. Chrysostom, hom. xix.) — The Greek word means, to babble or trifle.


42b636  No.806019

As for your original question, OP. I simply have to find ways to be creative. I ask questions that lead me along in meditation, for instance "What is Glorious about this Mystery." Alternatively I ask "How does this relate to the sacraments?" My priest from home always structures his homilies to relate back to the Eucharist, and he does an excellent job at it. Perhaps you can relate a mystery to events or happenings in your own life. Just keep thinking that way and continuing to pray the rosary anon.


19a1e8  No.806103

>>805747

OP, I am coming from outside the catholic church, but the Lord has given me the amazing grace of confirming His presence within me. (To anons about to tell me to become catholic: yes, perhaps I will indeed arrive there. For now, I am praying and waiting for more guidance from the Lord about his time and his will for me. The Lord has done many things for me over the course of this past year. I am trying to determine his will, and the best way to serve Him). As you may imagine, it is confusing as an outsider to determine how to arrive amid conflicting advice. However, do not worry. I am no longer a lost sheep, and the Lord has guided me already a significant amount of the way as soon as I began trying to find Him. If it is the Lord's will, I will surely arrive there soon.

In the meantime, however, I have started praying the rosary. I have found it to be extremely spiritually productive. Before I explain why, I should say that my own experiences and interpretations are certainly biased by me being new to the practice of the rosary in the first place, and also from being new to the faith and as yet not currently affiliated with a parish.

For my own part, I like to listen to the rosary being said by female voices (this is possible via spotify, or numerous other places), and to say the prayers along with them. In my case, this started off being somewhat necessary, since I was not sure about exactly how to do it on my own. Since I am not affiliated with a parish, I have been thinking in particular about prevalence of Mary, and especially the words used in the Hail Mary. Listening to female voices praying about Mary–led me to begin meditating very deeply on the spiritual significance and purpose of Mary in the prayers. It seemed strange to me, for example, that medieval monks in all-male monasteries with very strict rules about women and thinking about women would spend so much time thinking about this one particular woman throughout the prayers. For the record, I am not affiliated with any particular christian tradition. Outside of catholic and orthodox traditions, very often no special attention is given to Mary. meditating on all of this, especially when pondering my own relationship experiences, my own relationship with my mother, etc. has truly been absolutely unbelievably spiritually productive for me.

I would encourage you to think a bit more about Mary, and why she is featured so prominently in these prayers. And why, for instance, the Hail Mary is said so very often. And why, for instance, so many people report experiences about the rosary as a sort of spiritual defense against temptations and dark times. Mary has very deep spiritual significance, and meditating on the spiritual purpose of Mary, and that prayer, has been astonishingly helpful in coming to a much deeper understanding of the Word of God. For me, contemplation of Mary helped to unlock many mysteries. The other aspects of the rosary–the actual mysteries, for example–I do not understand at all, yet. However, just contemplating Mary alone led to one of the most profound spiritual transformations in my entire life.

Finally, I will also say that I still very much /following along/ with the prayers via spotify or some other playlist. This helps me to say the prayers aloud, and also a bit more slowly. Additionally, the prayers being said aloud by others, and also by me, helps to make the prayers sort of…inward. Where I might start off sort of saying them along with them, and then finding I am saying them more quietly and more quietly, and then not speaking at all, but still "saying" them, if that makes sense.

The whole thing is a very beneficial practice, I do have to say. I am fully confident there are many more things to discover.

Additionally, I also really am connecting with certain days being dedicated to certain meditations. The "joyful" and "sorrowful" mysteries I find to be particularly helpful. If left to myself, I would I think tend to choose the "joyful" mysteries on days when I am feeling joyful, and "sorrowful" mysteries on days when I am feeling sorrowful. However, if there is instead a specific day for a specific one, then it tends to very often be the case that I am feeling very sorrowful while I am praying "joyful" mysteries, or feeling very joyful while I am contemplating "sorrowful" mysteries. Those times are very insightful also, I think.

Obviously, take my opinions with a grain of salt. And I suppose you all do additional things like, ask your priest. Probably that is very wise advice. If someone who knows more about the doctrine or what a priest might say about any of the things that I just wrote, and wants to provide advice–please do share. I will be very happy indeed to learn more.


b1a0fc  No.806113

>>806103

Godbless and Godspeed on you spiritual pilgrimage, anon.




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