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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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1c95cf  No.803603

Is it possible for me to become a proper good Christian? Regardless of all the messed up stuff I have done? Does He forgive ANY sin? By birth I am Protestant, my family is strictly atheistic, however I am not so sure as to what I am anymore. That being said I cannot openly tell family if I choose the way of the Lord.

If I can become a good Christian what is the best way to go about doing so?

0490ff  No.803611

>>803603

>Does He forgive ANY sin?

Unequivocally, yes. So long as you allow yourself to be forgiven, and make genuine efforts to follow 'the way'.

>That being said I cannot openly tell family if I choose the way of the Lord.

You're not alone in that struggle.

>If I can become a good Christian what is the best way to go about doing so?

Start by reading the gospels above all else.

Then the rest of the NT, and you can tackle the OT later. Don't get distracted by picking a denomination just yet, or get too attached to any specific interpretations of scripture this early on, but instead try to immerse yourself in Christ's teachings and start living out the kind of life he describes to the best of your abilities. Try undertaking a life of humility, forgiveness, and ceaseless prayer, because having faith is something that requires active engagement (like learning to play a musical instrument), rather than something that can just be absorbed passively. To help with this, it's fruitful to study the lives of the saints (both Eastern and Western saints) to see how they applied Christ's teachings. Only once you've started to get to know God this way, might you have an easier time going through church history and discerning between the different denominations, because just lurking around this board can show you how hotly contested that debate can be.

t. Orthodox


0490ff  No.803616

>>803611

Also, if you ever need any materials to help you strengthen your faith in the midst of an atheist family, reading anything by C. S. Lewis, G. K. Chesterton, or Fr. Seraphim Rose is a pretty safe bet. St. Athanasius' "On the Incarnation" and St. John Climacus' "Ladder of Divine Ascent" would also be important works to go through at some point.


1c95cf  No.803620

>>803611

Thanks for the reply.

>Unequivocally, yes. So long as you allow yourself to be forgiven, and make genuine efforts to follow 'the way'.

This is a huge issue for me since I have literally done things to insult the Lord. I need some times to accept that I can be forgiven for what I have done.

>Start by reading the gospels above all else.

Then the rest of the NT, and you can tackle the OT later. Don't get distracted by picking a denomination just yet, or get too attached to any specific interpretations of scripture this early on, but instead try to immerse yourself in Christ's teachings and start living out the kind of life he describes to the best of your abilities. Try undertaking a life of humility, forgiveness, and ceaseless prayer, because having faith is something that requires active engagement (like learning to play a musical instrument), rather than something that can just be absorbed passively. To help with this, it's fruitful to study the lives of the saints (both Eastern and Western saints) to see how they applied Christ's teachings. Only once you've started to get to know God this way, might you have an easier time going through church history and discerning between the different denominations, because just lurking around this board can show you how hotly contested that debate can be.

I will start reading little by little. This really gave me some perspective on the issue as a whole. Thank You.


1c95cf  No.803621

>>803616

Thank you I will check it out.


d7e4a2  No.803626

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>>803603

First post is fine, I'll just give my own perspective as well.

>Is it possible for me to become a proper good Christian? Regardless of all the messed up stuff I have done? Does He forgive ANY sin?

Absolutely. If you let Him do it, Christ will lift any debt you have, and even carry your sufferings with you. It is a wonderful mystery. Why is God so kind and gentle that He would forgive us our transgressions and purify us of our evil, even if we only just begin to have a little repentance? Not even the most righteous man could deserve such love, and yet God gives it even to the most disfigured sinner.

>If I can become a good Christian what is the best way to go about doing so?

Personally I recommend reading the 4 gospels first (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John), then read some catechetical material so you know what it is you just read. For English speakers, I recommend those (I'm Orthodox so all of this is Orthodox content - someone else can recommend something else, I'm not telling you you must only read Orthodox books):

- The Living God (2 parts) (an Orthodox catechism that goes over the events in the gospels: the birth of Jesus, His baptism, His transfiguration, His teachings, His death, His resurrection, the era of the Church, and Jesus' second coming)

- The Incarnate God (2 parts) (an Orthodox catechism that goes over the feast days of the liturgical year)

- The Orthodox Church (by Met Kallistos Ware; an overview of Eastern Orthodoxy, first with its history then with its faith & worship)

- The Orthodox Way (by Met Kallistos Ware; essentially a testimony of the experience of God within the Orthodox Church, framed as "signposts" on the way to the Kingdom of God)

- The Jesus Prayer (Fr Lev Gillet; a book on the history, meaning, practice, etc. of the Jesus Prayer, which goes: "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner")

Then after all this, you should be properly equipped to dive into the Bible. You should read "cover to cover", from Genesis to Revelation. If you have a Catholic or Orthodox Bible, I recommend reading in the intended order, but if you have a Protestant Bible, I personally think the order of the Old Testament books in the Jewish canon better fits the genres of the books. I'm talking about this because Christian tradition divides the Old Testament into the Pentateuch (or the Law), the Historical books, the Wisdom books, and the Prophetic books, while Jewish tradition divides them into the Law, the Prophets, and the Writings, but the Protestant Old Testament canon is identical to the Jewish Old Testament canon, so…

I also think that the New Testament epistles are too difficult to understand if one does not know the Old Testament. Romans and Hebrews in particular are nightmarish.

With all this being said, Christianity is a dynamic religion, animated by the Holy Spirit. You shouldn't "read yourself" into Christianity. So, while you read these books, you should also focus on praying (the Orthodox books I've listed above all talk about prayer, so that may help you), almsgiving, and just following the 10 commandments to the degree you manage to, overall. At the same time, if you ever get a chance to go to a church on a Sunday, don't hesitate, even if that church isn't Orthodox but is Catholic or Protestant (avoid Mormons and Jehova's Witnesses, they're too far gone and most would classify them as other religions entirely).

As the first anon said, with all this you should be properly equipped to do some reseach on your own about "who is right" and "who is wrong". Until then, seek Christ with all your heart and pray to Him that He leads you where He needs you to be.


0490ff  No.803627

>>803620

>This is a huge issue for me since I have literally done things to insult the Lord. I need some times to accept that I can be forgiven for what I have done.

No worries. During such times it's important to remember that God is love. If it weren't for him, we would not even be capable of love ourselves. Therefore if there's anyone we can trust to always forgive us, it is Him. These videos may also help put some perspective on that:

https://youtu.be/PQITtc-PlZk

https://youtu.be/WosgwLekgn8




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