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We're gonna make it bros

53 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lordrevealed?

2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Matthew 7:5

>Matthew 27:11, DRV

>And Jesus stood before the governor, and the governor asked him, saying: Art thou the king of the Jews? Jesus saith to him: Thou sayest it.

This verse is actually extremely witty when you think about it. If it had been translated in less formal terms, it could read:

>Pilate: So you're the king of the Jews?

>Jesus: If you say so.

Essentially, Jesus is flinging wisecracks in the face of His own death. It's one of those wordplay jokes on the same level as

>I'm bored.

<Hi Bored, I'm Anon.

Pilate is questioning Jesus to see if he wants to literally kill Him, and Jesus throws a dad joke at him. It's fantastic. You can almost hear Pilate's irritated groan. It demonstrates our Lord's incredible strength of character. When confronted by the mightiest nation in the world with certain death, Jesus is feeling positive enough to tell jokes. Our little bit of comic relief in the Passion is delivered by the one man who you'd expect by all rights to be freaking out in terror. But Jesus maintains His composure, His wit, and most importantly His faith in the Father, so that, knowing God to be mightier than death, He chooses not to take death seriously.

1 Timothy 2:11

Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness

>>802502

>Essentially, Jesus is flinging wisecracks in the face of His own death

Those aren't wise-cracks, Jesus is not implicating Himself. He has always took care to never proclaim Himself in public, even the Apostles affirm it; this was so that scripture could be fulfilled that He was completely innocent of what the Jews accused of Him of.

>>802622

ESV doesnt have it. ESV is highly accurate and literal. The original probably didnt have it

>I have said ye are god's and all of you are the children of the Most High

>But you shall die like Men and fall like one of the princes.

Fatherly love of God, greatness of Mankind and our current sad, depressing state summed up in these two sentences.

>>802645

Anyone that removes a word from the gospel will be dealt with in a similar manner.

Luke 23:42 has the thief confessing Christ as Lord. This is absolute truth, and anyone removing a word from the witness of God is in sin.

Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered. Matthew 21:18-22 NIV

God Hates Figs!

>>802873

God doesnt hate anything, but saved resources that would be consumed by the fruitless tree and wouldnt give anything back.

Its of a same symbolism as with the parable about the talents: When you are given resources for something (and for us, Humans, merely existing as images and likenesses of God is enough of a resource for this purpose) you are expected to do something with it.

>>802877

>completely misses the joke

I bet you're fun at Bible study.

>>802877

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>>802878

>>802880

The joke was tasteless then

>>802881

>figs

>tasteless

I see what you did there. Subtle, but funny!

>>802881

figs taste great man

Roman 3:16

>Matthew 9:12-13: - But when he heard it, he said, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. Go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners.”

John 8:12

Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

>>803132

You have that backwards. Christ is not based on Bane and is not a "version of" Bane. Bane is a morally repugnant and degenerate "Christ-like" figure.

>>803154

I guess it’s (((Hollywood))) at it again eh

>>802835

So adding words is okay then? Shouldn't that be considered even worse?

>>803226

Anon… I really don't think it says that. Adding words where they didn't exist are sinful also. I'm unsure where this strange idea popped into your head from.

>>803317

Because you're implying that the English translation (KJV) is the only translation of the bible that matters…

>>803154

most primary characters in most stories are bastardized versions of Jesus.

think of Spiderman. in his origin story, he leaps off a building to prove himself. In the gospels, satan tempts Jesus to jump off the temple, and Jesus won't, because He won't test God and He refuses to be tempted by satan as God.

I agree, Jesus is not a "version" of anyone, but there are countless "versions" of Jesus that are all spiritually unfulfilling.

>>802877

Your comment helped me tonight, anon. Thank you very much for posting it. very seriously. Praise God! He truly shows up everywhere!

>>803388

https://babylonbee.com/news/10-blatantly-obvious-christ-figures-star-wars-universe

>>803461

Them feels…when I was an altar boy we used to pray this before the celebration of mass.

I’m in dire need of hope lately…and faith; and above all to learn that I do not have to earn His love and that I deserve to be loved despite my sins. Them feels…

>>802835

Just because it's in the KJV doesn't mean it was in the original. It means it probably was. But if the ESV, which is probably one of the most literal translations out there doesnt have it, and neither does any other that I can find, it probably wasnt in the original

>>803154

Bane said he was going to give Gotham back to the people. Jesus gave us salvation.

>>803484

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/luke/23-42.htm

It's Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom, just like I was taught in CCD. The Greek word for lord is kyrie, as in kyrie eleison.

>>803484

>But if the ESV, which is probably one of the most literal translations out there doesnt have it, and neither does any other that I can find, it probably wasnt in the original

That is incorrect, it removes entire words and verses as do most of the modern versions. This isn't due to literality, it's because those translations are based on new discoveries that were never before known. That goes against the eternal preservation of God's word. And not only that, nobody on earth even tried to remove that word from Luke 23:42 until Tischendorf, and until Westcott and Hort came out with a revised version in 1881. You aren't even quoting the preserved sources of God's word anymore. It's a simple fact that no Bible on earth had a corrupted form of Luke 23:42 until someone came up with new revelations.

The ESV also, for instance, removes the entire verse of Acts 8:37, and it puts Mark 16:9-20 in brackets. It's just casting doubt on scripture without even being sure whether it belongs or not. By including things but marking them with brackets they are making you doubt whether you can be sure anything in the Bible is really supposed to be there. There's nothing "literal" about it. Because it doesn't even know what to write.

>>803465

i will say a little prayer for you anon

“Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

>>802552

This

>>802480

>Jeremiah 17:7-8

7“Blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD,

whose trust is the LORD.

8He is like a tree planted by water,

that sends out its roots by the stream,

and does not fear when heat comes,

for its leaves remain green,

and is not anxious in the year of drought,

for it does not cease to bear fruit.”

>Matthew 6:25-33

25“Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? 26Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life?g 28And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, 29yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. 33But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

>>803154

>Christ is not based on Bane

I never implied this you moron. You repeated exactly what I said, which you would realize if you had a basic understanding of logic.

>>803856

Your words:

>>803132

>Christ being a … version of Bane

Christ is not a version of Bane

I like 1 Corinthians 8:6 because it tells me that the Father is the only true God and with no co-equals.

24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

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26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

>>803868

And I like Colossians 2:9.

>Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

>For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Job 38:31

Romans 14:5

>One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

John 15:18

[The passage where God tells Abraham to sacrifice Isaac; the passage is too long to be able to post it together with the passages below]

- Genesis 22:1-18

And Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the LORD, which he will shew to you to day: for the Egyptians whom ye have seen to day, ye shall see them again no more for ever.

The LORD shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace.

- Exodus 14:13-14

The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.

The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.

- Psalms 19:7-9

Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.

Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.

Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.

- Psalms 51:10-12

For thou, Lord, art good, and ready to forgive; and plenteous in mercy unto all them that call upon thee.

- Psalms 86:5

Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.

He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength.

Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall:

But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

- Isaiah 40:28-31

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

- Romans 12:1-2

Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

- Hebrews 12:1-2

Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:

Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

- 1 Peter 5:6-7

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

- Revelation 3:20

Thou shalt bring them in, and plant them in the mountain of thine inheritance, in the place, O LORD, which thou hast made for thee to dwell in, in the Sanctuary, O Lord, which thy hands have established.

— Exodus 15:17

For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

— Hebrews 11:10

For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:

And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:

Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.

— Job 19:25-27

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

— Genesis 3:15

John 12:48

He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Psalm 91:4

He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.

John 11:25-26

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

1 Corinthians 1:18

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Romans 8:29-30

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.