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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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986717  No.798312

I don't really go on this board, but I figured I need help because I'm desperate. I don't need a specific denomination to help me, so whether ur Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant or whatever feel free to reply. I am an Atheist but I don't want to be. I've prayed to God almost everyday, I go to Mass on Sunday, and I study Christian philosophy. I have tried various churches in my area and have settled on one I like. And I still cannot believe in God.

I'm not here to be smug about it, I desire with all my heart to believe in God but I just can't. The idea of God is just so alien to me I can't fathom how his existence could be possible, which is weird because when I was a kid I DID believe in God, in fact the idea of my God not existing wasn't even an option for me until I turned around 13 (I was raised Southern Baptist). Around when I turned 16 I became an angry Atheist but after not even a year I mellowed out and was just chill about it. I thought it was silly that people believed in God and that I was a big brain for not but even then I acknowledged there were smart and kind people who were religious. Everything was normal and routine for me

It wasn't until around 2017 that I became sympathetic to the ideas of religion again. I looked at religion not as a spiritual good but as good for communities and how I see churches help the poor, sick and starving, how I agreed with much of Catholic Social teaching and how for thousands of years the Church has been the bastion of Art and Education not just in the west but the entire Christian world. Eventually I tried dabbling into religion thinking it was neat. In 2018 I started going to various Churches in my city, Orthodox, Baptist, Catholic and a few others, to experiment and after a while I even identified as Christian despite not believing in God. I don't think the word I should use is LARPing, I didn't feel 'cool' doing this and I find Crusader twitter quite cringey. I wasn't becoming a Christian as a fashion statement I just wanted to be apart of the faith.

I believe what drew me to wanting religion is my current life, I'm in the military and hate it I feel like its holding back my life, I've given up wanting a gf, I feel as though I wasted my teenage years staying in my room all the time and I'm depressed that my life isn't exciting or interesting. But at the same time I don't think religion was purely an escape from my shitty life, I saw religion as a genuine good. But I can still not believe in God. Because so I continue to sin but I rarely feel guilty about it because God isn't real in my eyes. I want to be Christian, I want that feeling of comfort and nostalgia that I had as a child, I want to feel like I'm apart of a grand plan and that there is objective truth in this world. But I can't.

How can I believe in God? I don't care if you're Catholic, Orthodox or Protestant, all of you believe in the same God that's all that matters to me for this particular crises I'm having. I don't think going to the correct church will help my retarded brain click to the idea of a deity that created everything.

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4f386b  No.798321

To be saved, you have to be baptized in the Holy Spirit. Pray for that to happen to you.


7f051c  No.798330

Belief is a very different kind of beast from what anything in the secular world has to offer, so your story isn't terribly surprising, and it's likely such stories are likely to only increase as more people come to realize their struggles with Nihilism. So my first bit of advice would be to actually get to know your enemy, so that you have a firm idea of what you're up against in modern society and how/why you're struggling with this mindset:

http://www.oodegr.com/english/filosofia/nihilism_root_modern_age.htm

Along those same lines, familiarizing yourself with the limitations of the materialist mindset can also help (if you haven't done so already). For this, any of the following books would do:

>Miracles - C. S. Lewis

>The Abolition of Man - C. S. Lewis

>Heretics - G. K. Chesterton

>Why Materialism is Baloney - Bernardo Kastrup

>The Experience of God - David Bentley Hart

However, all that is just background information to open your mind a bit further, but not necessarily anything that would help with the actual practice of developing belief on its own. So you may actually want to start tackling that first with the following two books:

>The Mountain of Silence - Kyriacos C. Markides

>You Are What You Love - James K. A. Smith


4da12a  No.798333

>>798312

There are logical arguments for God that very convincing once you understand them. The YouTube channel InspiringPhilosophy has videos introducing these arguments.

The Cosmological Argument: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ULF5WixMM

The Ontological Argument:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQPRqHZRP68

The Teleological Argument:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yt7hvgFuNg

I have a background in Logic, so understanding these arguments was relatively easy for me. You might need to watch these videos more than once to soak them in. After that do as >>798330 says, and read some Christian books.


adcf1a  No.798337

>>798312

Something that exists can't have brought itself into existence, therefore the universe, space and time were started by someone, not by themselves. We all know space and time had a beginning and it's impossible that they started themselves.

It's simple really.


38b24d  No.798409

>>798312

You need to examine your conscience and see what’s holding you back. Read as much as you can get your hands on from Orthodox writers. You have heard the secular/liberal argument against God all your life, you need the other side too. Then pray for discernment.

These kind of threads are spamming up the board.


022b6f  No.798415

>>798409

>These kind of threads are spamming up the board.

That's not much of a problem I think. The root of it might be that the Easter season gets even secular men thinking about Christ, so we should rejoice that this man came to us and asked questions rather than continuing as he would, putting those unwanted thoughts of the Truth behind him.

Polite sage for unrelated.




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