19d352 No.796241
9eed39 No.796247
kyrie eleison, christe eleison
c169d8 No.796248
>>796242
They are enjoying this
24a977 No.796250
>>796233
Now the question comes: was it yellow vests, anti-Catholic protties, Muslims, or just an unfortunate accident?
91e39b No.796252
I'm not crying … I'm' not crying … YOU ARE … sniff :(
7cc5d6 No.796253
False flag. Notre Dame is a crisis actor.
0288fc No.796255
>>796250
I’m betting on Muslims and France sweeping the police records under the rug
3eb54f No.796256
3ac7d1 No.796260
>>796258
>Prots would never do anything bad to Catholics! Religion of peace!
5ed0a8 No.796261
I can't even begin to imagine the art and history that could be lost.
1b399e No.796263
Prots aren't known for destroying churches. Destroying statues and re-appropriating them, yes. Destruction of the whole church? Not so much.
579e0f No.796267
>>796261
the spire fell into the roof
it's already too late i fear
16207a No.796268
>>796260
Pretty sure it is more likely for shitskins to burn it down rather than fellow brothers in Christ.
2055e0 No.796270
F
Let it be God's judgement against the pagan people of France. The damnation of an entire generation is a greater loss than the destruction of a building. Pray for the people of France to find Christ again and may God heal their country in his mercy.
304580 No.796271
Anyone know the name of the company responsible for the renovation? I'm just looking for (((coincidences))).
24a977 No.796273
>>796268
I would think the Muslims would have used a bomb. My guess is that it's just an unfortunate accident due to renovations.
c9e0fa No.796274
>>796242
>>796248
Please don't make me more mad than i'm already
8bea09 No.796280
If this isn't a sign of ill tidings I don't know what is. People can only be pushed so far, and I can only see blood in Europea future. God help us all.
8265a2 No.796281
>>796248
>two people out of thousands appear to be smiling
>totes celebration guis!!
Calm down.
2f682f No.796282
>>796250
It's was either Muslims or Jews IMO.
0288fc No.796283
>>796278
Yeah but those were a month apart. Looking into it, it does appear that the renovations were fairly extensive and welding torches might have been involved which sparked the fire.
The more happening theory is that this was started inside (less likely) as retaliation for the mosque shooting, in which case things are going to get real very soon.
ba6a96 No.796286
>>796278
According to this there are a thousand attacks per year on churches. 500 anti jew ones, probably by jews themselves and arabs, and 100 anti muslim.
http://www.libertepolitique.com/Actualite/Decryptage/Face-a-la-vague-de-profanations-qui-s-abat-sur-la-France-pourquoi-SPERO
629775 No.796289
>>796250
>>796242
Betting on Antifa feminists or Muslims, but the fault lies within the Jesuits who advocate for both groups. You can't give a platform to false idols and claim that you're Christian.
1759c2 No.796290
When I was young, I prayed for a life of peace and fulfillment.
Seems together we'll have to choose our pick between the two soon.
8265a2 No.796291
>>796282
>>796273
I'm guessing the Yellow Vests. They've already defaced and destroyed several landmarks, so why not Notre Dame?
27d933 No.796293
3bfd88 No.796294
>>796288
This was on September 8, 2016. I doubt there's any connection. It was probably just an accident.
27d933 No.796295
the death toll rises as europe burns
9da2de No.796296
0bc34d No.796298
>>796233
Ah so the physical flames finally caught up to the spiritual flames.
France's cathedrals were burning long before these fires took on.
France is the most secular place in Europe. Let a country that actually care have the ancient Cathedrals, because France wants nothing to do with them.
d8ac4a No.796299
>>796285
Not surprising at all.
The chosen people have also decided to make their thoughts known.
https://twitter.com/JewishWorker/status/1117854674479009792
27d933 No.796300
I am not blaspheming, I believe, when I say
Goddamnit
9c5edc No.796305
>>796250
They think for now that it may be that someone messed up while working on the restoration work they've been doing.
>>796233
I hope that there isn't too much damage to the statues and artwork that the church has. It would be sad, and especially so if this turns out to not be an accident - because then it would be blasphemy, and I can't imagine how much condemnation would fall on the person(s) responsible for this horrible mess.
I don't care much that this happened to a Catholic church though. I also don't care much that it happened to a part of French patrimony. I am not attached to the fact I live in France and I am definitely not attached to Catholicism. I pray, however, that there is as little damage as possible.
Most-holy Mother of God, pray for us!
579e0f No.796307
curse me and my neet ass.
never saw it irl, never will have the chance again.
2524af No.796308
>>796304
Really? God waited 800 years, allowed it survive the 'reformation' and the French revolution and now decided to 'punish' it?
It is a punishment for the West and the current pope who seems to be actively working to destroy.
8265a2 No.796309
I hope none of the fire fighters get hurt.
f2af98 No.796310
When I first heard the news, I was a little suprised and said a prayer. Other than that, I didnt think much of it. I thought it being an accident, was the will of God. It was his church to begin with, if the causes the greater salvation of even a single soul, it would be worth all the lost artwork and memory.
64e5bb No.796314
>>796311
Given the state of India, one could argue Hinduism is a punishment in itself.
91e39b No.796315
>>796313
>If it happens to me, it's Satan
>If it happens to someone I don't like, it's God's holy wrath
Grow up.
967028 No.796317
>>796305
>I hope that there isn't too much damage to the statues and artwork that the church has.
The spire has gone, at least one of the rose windows is gone, the roof collapsed and the fire spread throughout most of the interior. It's probably all gone.
2524af No.796320
>>796311
Hold the freaking phone. What can I conclude from your post: God hasn't destroyed the infidels, therefore God doesn't punish at all?
81e3bc No.796321
>>796260
>Christian structure with great historical significance burns down
>Must be those other Christians I don't like!
Your hate blinds you more than you know. For your own sake, rectify this.
295b99 No.796322
>>796312
Now that's not very brotherly of you, anon.
d8ac4a No.796324
There's a silver lining, I guess.
24a977 No.796325
>>796323
It's possible. There were some major renovations going on. Construction can start fires.
eaa315 No.796330
>>796324
I always wonder to myself what I would save if I woke up and my apartment was on fire. What would I grab before running the hell out? Some books? My laptop? My guitar? This sort of puts in perspective just how replaceable my junk is compared to what is held in Notre Dame.
35e849 No.796334
>>796332
>replying to bait
What did you expect?
7cc5d6 No.796337
>>796335
>it's da jooooooooooooooossssssssszzzzzzzzzz!!!
>not bait
top kek m8
f2af98 No.796339
>>796337
He never said they caused the fire, only how they responded was proof of their views on Christianity
2055e0 No.796340
>>796305
>Most-holy Mother of God, pray for us!
You're praying for Mary to pray for you? What stops you from praying to Jesus himself?
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
629775 No.796343
>>796337
>>796339
The issue lies with those who are anti-Christian. If you fixate on that specific ethnic group, then you're ignoring the other groups that inflict damage to the institutions as well.
79c8c4 No.796347
>>796343
Exactly, so why focus so much on Jewish people? They're not our enemy. We have only one enemy and it isn't human.
3ac7d1 No.796349
>>796340
Notre Dame means "Our Lady", you twit.
2055e0 No.796351
>>796347
>Exactly, so why focus so much on Jewish people? They're not our enemy. We have only one enemy and it isn't human.
Is this bait?
02cb5e No.796352
>>796233
Hopefully the damage is minor, glad the art was saved for another generation. Though on the flip side, God isn't happy with France
eaa315 No.796353
>>796352
The North Rose window is gone.
91e39b No.796354
>>796350
>E Michael Jones
lol no
02cb5e No.796361
>>796353
That's sad, but not the worst news
7cc5d6 No.796363
/pol/ needs to go and stay go. This is something that matters to us and your stink is making us sick. Go cry about Jews in your containment board.
d08043 No.796364
>>796347
>They're not our enemy
i hope this is bait
Jews hate Christians, and they will only say differently while you continue being useful idiots.
64e5bb No.796368
Workers from the reconstruction program are reporting the fire was intentionally set, though no concrete evidence yet. Take that as you will.
967028 No.796372
>all these statesmen twitting about the loss of an "iconic global building" that "belongs to all humanity"
>some of them can't even manage that and just talk about the emergency services
I wish these people could stop being evil for 5 minutes. Apparently to them a cathedral is a just a historical oddity.
d8ac4a No.796373
>>796366
>his beliefs are a product of an adulterer who became a monk only because he killed his friend in a duel (which was punishable by death) and then, because of him being unable to deal with guilt and scrupulosity, declared God was evil and, along with greedy kings and princes, fractured Christianity forever
okay
b2fe64 No.796376
>>796372
Don't worry friend, it's only going to get worse. The modernists are going to be the ones to rebuild it.
02cb5e No.796377
>>796353
Ok it's worse than I thought.
e5a64b No.796381
56d630 No.796382
>>796368
Did you see this on any site that can be archived, anon?
02cb5e No.796383
>>796372
France, and I suspect all of us, are being judged. This is just the beginning.
64e5bb No.796385
>>796382
Right now it's just word of mouth. I'll get back to you if anything comes up.
24a977 No.796388
"This building is not made of stone. It is made of living prayer" - some anonymous comment
2524af No.796389
>>796366
Does it? Because there are hundreds of statues of Our Lady in my country from the 500 year war versus the Ottomans period where the intercession of Our Lady brought us many miraculous victories and saved our country. Our Marian shrines have survived the Turkish hordes, earthquakes, fires, 2 world wars, 1 'regular' war and 70 year of communist government.
1c0ba4 No.796390
The most important thing housed by this cathedral was the living flesh of Jesus. Let us be glad that it was rescued.
eaa315 No.796391
700 years of history gone in a few hours. 😧
64e5bb No.796394
Reports are now saying every Rose Window is gone.
27d933 No.796398
Why couldn't they burn down my house instead… my whole city as a matter of fact… God I failed thee
967028 No.796402
>>796372
The Vatican just put out a statement saying it's a central symbol of Christianity in France and are praying for those fighting to save it. Refreshing to hear someone dare to say the obvious.
e7096d No.796404
>>796398
I too would willingly sacrifice my city to spear the cathedral
b2fe64 No.796405
Some pictures of the interior took in 2009
d08043 No.796407
I am so glad our Jewish brothers are standing with us in the time of strife.
b2fe64 No.796411
>>796405
I took these in 2009, I can't type correctly it seems.
d08043 No.796412
>>796408
>second ban
i haven't been banned, yet.
79c8c4 No.796416
>>796414
>I have such a biological imperative to shit all over everything someone else loves that I will evade a ban instead of growing up
And to think ... you do it for free.
64e5bb No.796417
Paris Police are launching a criminal investigation into the cause of the fire.
b2fe64 No.796418
>>796417
Even if it was entirely accidental such an investigation would still have to take place.
35e849 No.796419
>>796417
No surprises there. It will be treated as arson until otherwise proven. SOP.
79c8c4 No.796422
>>796420
>there is no reason to let oneself get insulted
But getting a ban insults you so much that you have to throw a toddler tantrum? Hypocrisy, thy name is b246a6.
eaa315 No.796423
Wasn't there a piece of the true cross kept in the spire that collapsed?
f7ad13 No.796424
You guys know Christ's crown of thorns was in there, right?
2524af No.796427
7cc5d6 No.796428
967028 No.796430
>>796427
I hope this is true but I won't believe it until I see it.
f7ad13 No.796431
Sainte Jeanne de France
Notre espérance repose en vous
Sainte Jeanne de France
Priez, priez pour nous
b16054 No.796432
I've only ever lurked on this board, but I felt compelled to state that the historical and cultural loss is devastating; however, what is even worse is its symbolism of French (and wider European) peoples' exodus from Christ into heathenism.
7cc5d6 No.796435
>>796432
Were you the one spamming that book in literally every thread, regardless of the topic of the thread? Ban deserved, friend.
b16054 No.796436
>>796434
I never really have anything to contribute, I like dropping by because I feel like it strengthens my resolve in odd parts of the day.
b16054 No.796438
>>796435
No, I am afraid you are mistaking me for someone else.
f7ad13 No.796440
Virgo Maria, ora pro nobis.
967028 No.796445
A new center for Multicultural Understanding
7cc5d6 No.796447
>>796441
>dishonored Chrysostom but nobody cared
How do you know? Not every ban is noted and there are no board logs.
967028 No.796448
Pictures from firefighter's drone
7cc5d6 No.796449
>>796437
It'll be a while. The fire isn't even out yet.
2e5293 No.796451
>>796233
well that sucks
Did anybody die, no victims reported yet?
I'm worried about the priests inside the cathedral.
27d933 No.796453
>See this on the news while in living room
>Visibily begin tearing up in full view of bluepilled atheist direct relatives
> Don't even care
> Retreat back to room
> Hope to find some kind of refuge, discussion on here
> Thread devolves into memes and insensitive crap
> Worsens into /pol/ based infighting
> Go to /pol/, curious what is being said
> The latest trend of accelerationism sees people rushing to DEFEND the burning of Europe
> Blackpilled defeatists don't care, meme doomer wojaks and apu clowns where once the anger of the disillusioned youth of the west laid the groundwork for something genuinely good, genuinely aggrieved, a genuine effort of love
> Everywhere else people just meme and place dishonest comments, even here
It's all so tiresome. It would appear I'm on fire myself. The world is on fire, at least, mine is. Yours is too. Where has the time gone… where are my brothers… what is to be done now. God forgive us
35e849 No.796454
>>796451
Nobody's been hurt (physically), thank God.
94fbe5 No.796455
Ill say this and ill say it now.. If it was just a accident from a repair worker than God forgive who ever made this permanent mistake. But if it was intentionally set by someone then they just condemned themselves to the deepest pit of hell. And if it happened to be one of the Muslim invaders then God let Mecca suffer the same fate.
967028 No.796456
>>796453
I feel you brother.
3ac7d1 No.796457
>>796455
>they just condemned themselves to the deepest pit of hell
What if they confess and ask forgiveness?
>God let Mecca suffer the same fate
Meh. The Kabba has been destroyed and rebuilt dozens of times. They're probably used to it by now.
2e5293 No.796458
>>796445
I wouldn't be suprised if this was done on porpuse to replace the cathedral with some modernist bullshit
967028 No.796459
>>796457
>What if they confess and ask forgiveness?
There's no forgiveness without repentance.
94fbe5 No.796460
>>796453
Some big relatable truths there anon, especially regarding /pol/. How far that board has fallen since after the election is astounding.
2e5293 No.796461
>>796454
Okay, that's good
94fbe5 No.796462
>>796457
>Meh. The Kabba has been destroyed and rebuilt dozens of times. They're probably used to it by now
Either way, if its confirmed that its them then its definitely time for a crusade. Enough is enough. When will the line get drawn in the sand at this point?
3ac7d1 No.796463
>>796462
Trouble with that, though, is who to blame? Arabs are less than 15% of Muslims, so how would that crusade work? Even if you wiped out every Arab on the planet, there would still be 1.5 billion Muslims. There are more Muslims than there are Catholics. Reality has to be faced.
94fbe5 No.796464
>>796458
THIS.
I really wouldn't be surprised. These people have zero sense of culture, religion and history.
947a95 No.796466
the only solution for Catholics is to migrate to the Americas again, and to make America a new Europe. Europe was already, and no longer has salvation with the Muslim migratory wave and with ((bankers))) Zionists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBMncSQ1rLc
62b230 No.796467
We do not took such a cathedral anymore this is the true reason why it burns. Our priests molest our boys, our bishops are more worried about P.R. and appearing hip then saving the souls of their flock, our God is mocked openly across every media platform, the doctrine of our Holy Mother Church is butchered in ""catholic"" schools, ecumenism has reached the point where the pope is taking part in satanic Jewish synagogue liturgies, homosexuality is a norm in our society, pretty much everyone in the west minus a few Christians that actually still cling true are fornicators. The list goes on I can probably fill a book with all the reasons why we no longer deserve this grand and ancient cathedral, Kyrie Elision.
967028 No.796468
>>796462
The media will vilify a Catholic for just standing up but they will never show this picture.
d53b17 No.796469
F
Feel its only the beginning, God have mercy.
a25ffd No.796470
>>796453
Trad Catholic Twitter is a good place to be right now.
27d933 No.796471
I want to march into the burning halls and sing hymns, pray, exclaim a sermon, and confess to a crumbling booth. I feel none more to be appropriate. I want to be in this fire, God help me
62b230 No.796472
>>796467
>We do not took
we do not deserve
f7ad13 No.796473
>>796466
I live in this castle's city.
967028 No.796474
Reuters is reporting one of the firefighters is severely injured.
38680b No.796475
>>796233
Calling it now but it's going to be restorated with as much modern bullshit there can be.
27d933 No.796476
>>796470
Like what handles… I do not know these things
d7cd02 No.796477
I'm very happy. You all deserve it for being pro-race mixing and against (((racism))). This is for your disgusting betrayal of European people.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) 65a359 No.796478
>>796474
You mean the only firefighter?
579e0f No.796479
>>796476
not the same anon
earl of gray saved me from being a pagan nazi
579e0f No.796480
79cdbe No.796481
>>796477
Being a brainlet that doesn't understand anything doesn't give you the right to mouth off.
ba6a96 No.796483
>>796477
What does Notre Dam has to do with that, if it was the european parliament then yes, i'd chuckle.
967028 No.796484
>>796478
From the footage it does look like there's only 3 or 4 hoses directed at the roof but it's hard to tell. We need some aerial shots.
>>796477
Dumb Asukaposter.
947a95 No.796485
>>796473
We live in a country that is more Catholic than all of Europe together, just preserve the tradition.
2e5293 No.796486
>>796482
>implying he isn't right
can't wait for /pol/ to go full satanist siege tier.
2e5293 No.796487
>>796453
>The latest trend of accelerationism
I still remember when they would damage control for Trump, and shitting nn accelerationists (who wanted hillary to win) and now the situation is in totally in the reverse. Predictable tbh, /pol/ can't make up their minds
02cb5e No.796490
>>796453
It's ok, God always loves his elect. Let this be our reminder never to tear down and always to build up.
02cb5e No.796491
>>796482
>>796489
It's not a building, it's the dwelling of the Lord
dd1e23 No.796492
e09dca No.796493
>>796490
Nice picture, thanks for the share
de7b76 No.796494
>>796477
Anime is cancer. Neopaganism is cancer.
27d933 No.796495
>>796482
I do not require the personal beckoning of God himself to showcase emotion regarding beauty. In a hundred lifetimes of sheer emotion I could not express my sorrow at the tragic beauty and volatility of this world and it's works. Now when faced with this, the least I can do is try. You are a coward, for you never would. When faced with that volatility you run and meme to safety. No, it wasn't just a building. And no, I would not require such extreme extent of tragedy, involving God himself to showcase any emotion... but guess what... here we are.
2524af No.796496
Apparently, the core of the cathedral and the structure have been saved. God willing, the Cathedral will be restored.
02cb5e No.796498
>>796493
Your welcome, it's my favourite
5191db No.796501
>>796496
Not sure how long ago these were taken, but they give me tremendous hope
65a359 No.796502
>>796496
>the Cathedral will be restored
>in modern times of France
This is too optimistic. Restored, possibly yes. But as original?
02cb5e No.796503
>>796496
God be praised. From what I've read, the French had badly neglected the building and only just managed to raise the money to save her, it was these long-awaited repair works which ironically were occurring when the fire started
2524af No.796505
>>796502
Well, the roof will need to be rebuilt, but the structure stands. I watched an architect on local tv saying that even if the structure isn't damaged, the roof supports will have to be steel. So no, not original, but the walls and the towers will remain.
967028 No.796506
>>796489
>dude i know you say christ literally inhabits the host but it's ok if i burn it right?
02cb5e No.796507
>>796505
Steel roof supports would be an upgrade so long as they aren't anchored. Steel and stone contract and expand due to temperature at different rates, and then there's rust expansion. I have every confidence though that they will get it right for preservation purposes.
65a359 No.796509
02cb5e No.796510
2524af No.796512
>>796507
>>796509
>art and relics saved
>structure stands
I'd say God has been very merciful considering the situation. Maybe this will serve as a spark to light the fight in the people of Europe. And right before the EU elections too.
d4c1fd No.796514
>>796477
What happened to /pol/? 2 years ago /pol/ would never openly celebrate the destruction of the culture of Christian Europe.
02cb5e No.796515
>>796502
If they could do it for the Cutty Sark, they can do it for the church of Our Lady
02cb5e No.796516
>>796512
And at the start of Holy Week too, it is a meaningful time to have such an impactful event.
>>796514
>/pol/ would never
/pol/ are hypocrites and criminals. They just like it because it may start a race war, and they love blood.
331278 No.796518
If there are any mods left that aren't Judaizers they should take a look at what this jannie has been deleting in this thread.
02cb5e No.796519
>796501
Must have been frightening to go into a building where the stone vaulting had come down in parts. Probably how that firefighter got injured.
65a359 No.796521
>>796497
Crown of Thorns is saved.
02cb5e No.796522
>>796519
Why did that picture get deleted?
02cb5e No.796523
02cb5e No.796524
>>796519
This was mean as an answer to the post linked below
>>796523
63dcbb No.796525
>>796477
Why do you hate Europe?
fcd583 No.796526
>>796236
>>796233
>>796233
Implying this couldn’t be a sign of god judgment on Paris
02cb5e No.796528
>>796526
I said that already, may I suggest it is God's judgement of the entire west?
6dba9e No.796529
>>796482
>Woman-worship
Begone thot; only one (1) woman deserves unconditional honor.
I agree abortion is wrong, but it's not wrong because "Think of the women!" It's wrong because it's an affront to God's gift of life, and just as many men get the axe at the hand of their mothers.
e09a5a No.796530
>>796270
this guy knows what's up
152368 No.796531
>>796527
What the winnie the pooh is that Schizo shit you linked
aa5798 No.796533
6dba9e No.796534
Also a major mosque was also ignited today shortly after Notre Dame's fire started.
fcd583 No.796535
>>796407
>((Evangelicals)) will defend this
Thanks ((America))
58bce9 No.796536
>>796534
Maybe it's a way to prevent anyone from accusing them of arson.
50d74d No.796537
I don't want to say it's the Jews but…
02cb5e No.796538
>>796532
Has ISIS claimed responsibility yet?
45bc47 No.796539
>>796477
>Everyone's falling for the false flag leftyposter
Well I'm glad that all of the closeted semenarians in this thread are here to remind us of the central premise of the Judeo-Christianity, that Israel is our greatest ally and that even if your home and cultural treasures burn, at least you weren't racist.
I wonder about the sort of limp-wristed faggots who seem to be able to get angry only at what their Jew programming tells them to, are they even the same species as us? Apparently one of the greatest treasures of faith and art ever built by Christendom burning to the ground won't do it, so is there any humiliation or indignity they won't suffer so long as it helps disenfranchise their countrymen?
269acc No.796541
Photo of the inside of the cathedral.
I was so disheartened thinking I would never be able to see it again that a perverse part of me hoped it would all just burn down so I wouldn't have to see it as a shell of it's former self, but this gives me hope.
65a359 No.796542
>>796532
That's strange, I've heard that it was still open to tourists and was about to close before the fire.
269acc No.796543
>>796542
Same, the NYT reported that they started shuffling people out without an explanation the fire started.
91e39b No.796544
>>796538
No, but they will. Fart in an elevator? ISIS. Accidentally run a red light and get a ticket? ISIS. Thunderstorms on the day you'd planned to go to the park? ISIS!
3ac7d1 No.796545
>>796542
>>796543
Oh God, here comes the conspiracy nutters. Guys, the fire started at around 6:30pm. Of COURSE they were shuffling tourists out. It was getting ready to close. Don't start reading into shit.
80f4fe No.796546
Beautiful Latin Mass in the Cathedral in July 2017. Now it's gone. We weep for Paris!
65a359 No.796548
>>796545
Let me rephrase to your cognitive dissonance. The fire started when the cathedral was still open.
0044fb No.796550
>>796541
Yeah, I was hoping it would be some symbolism that if it burned down, it would wake Christians up to the problems in our own homes. But then I think about why would they rebuild the cathedral? Would it be for legit christian reasons or just for the beautiful arches and spires? Don't get me wrong this church was a testament to what a homogeneous Christian society can do and inspire non-christians for centuries as well. But then I also think if this will work in the same way as what happens when a mosque gets shot up and people get more concerned and interested in Islam. Will people start getting concerned and interested in Christianity, and when mass media protests it, will this cause people to seek Christ?
abcb51 No.796551
I rarely post here but I feel as if now would be the best time to pay respects to what happened.
>>796407
And Jews wonder why we have been hated for quite some time now.
fba765 No.796554
>>796547
>>796549
such a hauntingly beautiful picture. i think the cross surrounded by ashes would be a good symbol for resurgent Christianity in the new millenium
d8ac4a No.796557
>>796554
This one's even better, stunningly beautiful
fba765 No.796564
>>796557
>smoke rising from the floor, embers falling from the ceiling
>in the center, the Cross untarnished
chills
fc1d4f No.796576
>>796564
>>796557
>>796554
>>796550
>>796549
>>796547
This shit is waaaaaay 2spooky4me. Seems like god is telling us to brace ourselves because he is about to purge the church of all the fancy shit, all the wealth, all the unessential parts, all the lukewarms and only the true believers who take up their cross everyday will survive. Big bad shit is coming and we all need to repent hard and fast.
91e39b No.796583
>>796576
Vatican 2 enacted the NO in order to purge the church of all the "fancy shit", but you idiots think it's heresy … now you think it's God's way?
7cc5d6 No.796584
>>796576
>all the wealth, all the unessential parts
Oh thank God! No more Baptist mega-churches? I'm in!
303d19 No.796585
God is come to reap the sinners
aa5798 No.796586
Firefighters succesfully reached the balcony.
They are assessing the damages judging by the hand signs
8265a2 No.796587
>>796585
We are all sinners.
261ba4 No.796588
Your atheist friends on Facebook:
Collapse of Christendom, massive immorality: we sleep
Old church burns down: EVERYONE GOES NUTS
303d19 No.796589
>>796587
let the mote judge the beam, and the beams burn down
8265a2 No.796590
>>796589
So, which do you fancy yourself being? The mote or the beam? Choose wisely and don't forget that God knows literally everything.
fc1d4f No.796591
>>796583
I meant that he's talking away the fancy parts because we don't deserve them and they really aren't essential, although they are nice
303d19 No.796594
>>796590
when literal fire and brimstone from the lord out of heaven pours on my cathedrals I will think 'yes, perhaps I am the beam'
who are you to slyly measure your own punishments in isolated self-flagellation, than to turn the whip outwards and face persecution for His sake
02cb5e No.796595
>>796576
>>796557
>>796549
>>796547
>>796541
Lord have mercy on me, I had a hand in this, my sins burned it. The world's sins burned it.
You can even notice that the pile of rubble cuts us off from accessing the tabernacle.
02cb5e No.796598
>>796594
>when literal fire and brimstone from the lord out of heaven pours on my cathedrals I will think 'yes, perhaps I am the beam'
Way to go with that self-examination there. I see that the beam is driven through the eye-socket and deep into the prefrontal cortex.
1f0bd3 No.796603
aa5798 No.796604
35e849 No.796605
>>796594
What, exactly, makes you think God set this fire? Miracles have witnesses and evidence. Where's your evidence?
805d2e No.796606
Why is every third post being deleted in this thread
79c8c4 No.796607
>>796606
Because every third post is a turd post by a pedantic troll claiming this is God's wrath against Catholics. Since they're claiming to know God's mind, they are claiming to be God.
fc1d4f No.796608
>>796607
I'm Catholic and this certainly seems to me like a warning to Catholics to get their shit together.
ab2726 No.796609
God be merciful to me a sinner.
Glory be to the Father,
and to the Son,
and to the Holy Spirit,
as it was in the beginning, is now,
and ever shall be,
world without end,
Amen.
God be merciful to me a sinner.
Our Father who art in Heaven, hollowed be thy name,
thy kingdom come,
thy will be dome,
on Earth as it is in Heaven,
give us this day our daily bread,
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one,
Amen.
God be merciful to me a sinner.
I believe in God the Father, creator of Heaven and Earth,
I believe in Jesus Christ, his only son, our Lord,
He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, and born of the virgin Mary,
under Pontius Pilate He was crucified, died and was buried,
He descended to the Dead, on the third day He rose again,
He ascended into Heaven, where He is seated at the right hand of the Father,
He will come again to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Catholic church, the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the dead,
and the life everlasting,
Amen.
God be merciful to me a sinner.
Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee,
blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus,
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us now and at the time of our death,
Amen.
God be merciful to me a sinner.
8265a2 No.796611
>>796608
So was the three churches burned in Louisiana recently God's warning for Baptists to get their shit together?
8265a2 No.796613
>>796609
Amen. God be with you.
fc1d4f No.796614
>>796611
No that was probably just bad wiring. This is Notre Dame were talking about.
8265a2 No.796615
>>796614
No, that was a literal arsonist burning down churches with black congregations. He was arrested and is in jail for it awaiting trial now. So, what happens if this fire turns out to be arson? Will you still claim it's God's wrath? What if it was simple human error that started the fire? Will it still be God's wrath? How do you know when something is God's wrath and when it's simple human error or deliberate arson? Is your metric that which happens to people/places you don't like?
Tell me, oh wise one, how do you read God's mind?
7cc5d6 No.796616
>>796615
When God shows His wrath, whole nations die. He doesn't get bored and start fires in empty buildings. >>796614 is 100% clueless and probably not very smart.
805d2e No.796617
>>796607
Are their bad arguments to hurtful for my poor eyes to judge on my own?
fc1d4f No.796618
>>796615
Nothing is accidental. And if it's arson, the same message applies
303d19 No.796619
>>796598
I am not so paralysed by my imperfections that I will make Jesus' final commandment the last to follow. The first sign of God's wrath and you scurry to prove your own holiness rather than proving others holy; may he know you for what you are.
>>796605
the lord giveth and the lord taketh away. If the Lord is not taking back what is His from a wicked people, then you are suggesting it has been taken from Him by people more wicked still. Do you blaspheme against the power of God?
805d2e No.796620
0e192c No.796621
>>796614
>>796615
>>796616
>>796617
>>796618
Everyone, please stop bickering and see your senses. It doesn't matter if it was Arson or not, if tge Church was Catholic or Protestant. And Important piece of history and a beautiful cathedral was burned, some parts destroyed, but it has survived. We as faithful Christians won't survive if we continue this infighting. It may seem pointless now, but it will continue to fester later. Let us be grateful to our Lord that this house of God is still standing admist all the destruction, such as our faith.
f08eb1 No.796622
>>796606
For daring to name the Jews responsible for France being 10%+ muslim. Half the board got banned in this thread. Thanks JIDF Jannie.
>>796540
3 different people got banned for posting this image alone.
ab2726 No.796623
>>796622
>French people aren’t retarded for allowing Muslims inside
b15a9f No.796625
>>796514
pagan larpers and wignats, its also been flooded with radicalized ex-4channers. Used to post there but its just too many sick people for me to stand it anymore
>>796609
>posting God the father
>>796622
You think France is bad now, just wait in 20 years with Macron and that orange orangutan letting more Algerians and Africans in. Id say Africans and eastern Euros are the only reason why Christianity is still relevant in that god forsaken country.
ab2726 No.796626
>>796625
>>posting God the father
Got something against God?
1da97a No.796627
b15a9f No.796628
>>796626
Oh I forgot I'm in /Catholic/ lol
ab2726 No.796630
>>796628
Oh, so you’re not a Christian (nontrinitarian), gotcha. What are you doing here?
b15a9f No.796631
>>796630
No I'm Orthodox, also depictions of God the father in icons is forbidden, it's heretical.
ab2726 No.796632
>>796631
Why is it more heretical than the same of God the Son?
While you’re at it, why don’t you spell God like G-d?
c897f9 No.796633
>>796632
Probably because they are polytheists.
339f96 No.796635
Can he do this? Doesn't the Church own it?
ab2726 No.796636
>>796633
Theosis, aka Russian Mormonism?
e8c77b No.796637
>>796635
I hope that's fake.
02cb5e No.796638
>>796619
Ok, I can deal with that criticism, sounds logical. I just don't feel like being less melodramatic right now
e7096d No.796641
>>796635
So in other words expect a lot of murals with homosexuals and tiggers
02cb5e No.796642
>>796635
I believe that the church does own it as of now. The initial project to repair it was done through the Church.
It could be that Macron just wants to virtue signal so he will shower money on it. He will not make it an ugly modern art thing because he understands how touristbux works.
7cc5d6 No.796645
>>796617
It's a board with rules. This isn't /b/. If people break the rules, they get banned and their posts deleted. Why is that concept so difficult?
>>796618
>Nothing is accidental
Except you said the churches burned in Louisiana were "faulty wiring". >>796614
>if it's arson, the same message applies
Except when it's Protestant churches in Louisiana, eh?
e7096d No.796648
>>796642
>Macron has common sense
I say there is a pretty good chance the cathedral will end up looking like some tribute to paganism and Allah.
1da97a No.796649
>>796645
what rules were broken?
ab2726 No.796650
02cb5e No.796651
I'm just thinking, if Macron did this so he can act as saviour to the Gillet Jaunes, he's an idiot.
02cb5e No.796653
>>796648
I think he's cleverer than that, see >>796651
He has enough problems with the Gillet Jaunes that he's not going to add to their grievances by ruining something.
This is why all the statues came off, all the relics were taken for safe keeping, all the artwork. Holland managed to have the same good fortune with the Bataclan affair.
90ad5e No.796654
>>796635
please be fake lol
79c8c4 No.796660
>>796656
You're like one of those guys on /sudo/ sperging about how it's his God-given right to post pics of little girls because it "doesn't technically violate Dost". If it gets deleted or gets you banned, don't repost it! Why is that so hard? This is not a "free speech" board.
0abb92 No.796663
>>796660
Very telling how you immediately try to smear people as pedophiles. Are you Jewish by any chance?
1da97a No.796664
>>796660
moving the goalposts
10cae8 No.796665
This is what happens when you let sandtiggers come into your country.
0af5ef No.796666
e8c77b No.796667
There is nothing wrong with criticizing jews.
2d7f75 No.796668
>>796514
It's just the fedoras larping as pagans.
>>796516
>/pol/ are hypocrites and criminals
You are the hypocrite here if you think so. /pol/acks are not that different from us, that strawmaning of yours strays from truth and from Christian values. That kind of interboard defamation is disgusting.
fcd583 No.796669
>>796540
Jews are satanic rats
e19944 No.796670
ab2726 No.796671
>>796669
John 8:7 He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
e8c77b No.796672
>>796671
If someone rapes a child, I'll be sure not to cast any stones, because I have also sinned.
ab2726 No.796673
>>796672
Casting stones is a metaphor for judging them with your heart. By all means, restrain the rapist for practical reasons. I’m sure that’s what these Anons mean when it comes to calling Jews rats, right?
e8c77b No.796674
When someone does something wrong, you call them out. Same for individuals as well as groups.
2d7f75 No.796676
>>796576
>>796583
>>796591
>essential
Well… I think it's not a matter of being essential, but a matter of "being". Beauty is. Fancy parts are an expression of it.
Beauty inspires us to see God and the Truth. It's only natural we would build beautiful things to God and acknowledge the magnificent things we receive from Him. If the "world" is lacking Beauty, then we should take responsibility and do our part in pointing out Beauty to the lost herd, so they can better see God.
Men have forgotten what is truly beautiful these days and they are in an environment (encouraged specially by progressives, neo-marxists, kikes and masons) that tries to subvert or invert what should be seen as beautiful.
We need Beauty, one of the many faces God shows us.
ab2726 No.796678
>>796675
Ok cool, just checking.
10244d No.796680
>>796671
They have a natural (genetic or of demonic nature) inclination towards subversion and dual morality. Their religion despises ours, their culture despises ours. As groups, they despise our blood, Christ and our cultures. They currently are behind progressiveness and subversion of Christianity itself with neocons; as groups they always support these things.
While I wish they get, each of them, converted deep within their hearts, it's natural pointing out their "default behavior". There is good converted jews in our history. But as a group, there's nothing good on it. As individuals, their natural inclinations are towards satanism indeed. I don't know if that was what you were doing, but we shouldn't deny the truth as well.
I'm not >>796669 by the way.
ab2726 No.796682
>>796680
>There is good converted jews in our history.
How awfully charitable of you.
Watch out for hypocrisy. Unless you judge yourself more harshly then any Jew you will not enter the presence of God…
0abb92 No.796686
>>796682
Watch out for hypocrisy. Unless you judge yourself more harshly than any child rapist you will not enter the presence of God…
ab2726 No.796687
>>796686
All judgment belongs to Christ, not most judgment.
10244d No.796688
Yesterday, in the day of Our Lord, I prayed for Europe; against the suicide cult set and kept up in the continent; and against the mohammedan invasion promoted by its governors. And asked the intercession of Our Lady, Saint Virgin Mary. I asked God for strength to Europeans so they can fight for Christianity, for their children (who are at risk of never being born) and for the salvation of all souls. I asked for the conversion of lost Europeans back into Christ and for the protection of the whole world against mohammedanism.
Now I stumble upon this fire. May it serve as catalyst to turn the tables to our favor. May God bless the French so they regain their faith and give more value to their past. May the reconstruction of the cathedral be pious and move the hearts of Christians back to the Church. They need it, we need it.
God have mercy on us.
0abb92 No.796689
>>796687
You are such a pseud.
ab2726 No.796691
>>796689
Good. Intellect is non-salvific.
c0d719 No.796692
All the sacred hosts made it out as well as the sacred relics. I'm indifferent really. All the things that mattered were saved.
0abb92 No.796693
>>796691
I imagine that comes as a great relief to you.
ab2726 No.796695
>>796693
Christ is a relief, yes.
c0d719 No.796696
>>796691
Christ is Logos, dissemination of the Gospel is by intellect alone.
ab2726 No.796698
c0d719 No.796699
c0d719 No.796700
>>796698
btw, reading the gospel is an act of intellect :)
10244d No.796701
>>796682
You are confusing things up. I'm just telling the truth and you are seeing it as a mistake. You also should know there are people who are skeptic about Jews getting converted.
Don't take too literally the thing about judgment, don't take it in all the meanings that word can have. One thing is condemning or judging as if you are God, other thing is to use your brain to figure things out, have your own judgment and guide people with it.
As groups, Jews are very much against Christianity, other Europeans and their conservative culture. Don't be hysteric about it, /pol/ is right. And also, obviously, as groups, they are not Christian. As individuals, they have their own natural inclinations, as each and every person in the world is born with. Maybe the bad inclinations is of demonic nature, but I'd rather be humble about my knowledge on it.
Don't forget it's your duty to convert people to Christ. Jews should be all converted and shouldn't be in the way of Christianity, shouldn't be trying to ruin it or ruin anything good God has given us.
0abb92 No.796702
>>796699
I don't think he's read the Bible at all, I think he's just roleplaying.
6a03e0 No.796705
I propose we pray for the jew and muslim sinners and let them build a mosque at the premise.
Anyone else?
0abb92 No.796706
>>796705
We should reconstruct it as a multifaith prayer center to symbolize the modern, diverse France.
ab2726 No.796707
>>796699
The New Testament contains the word “intelligence” precisely once and it uses it in a neutral way.
>>796700
Yes and “reading the gospel” is non-salvific… Or was that another Protestant innovation that I missed?
>>796701
>As groups, Jews are very much against Christianity
==ALL== non-Christians are very much against Christianity. (Matthew 12:30)
10244d No.796712
>>796707
>ALL non-Christians are very much against Christianity
So what? You are not explicitly disagreeing with me the way you think you are. You just pulled a versicle from the Bible as if it were meaningful for what I said and to weight it to whatever narrative you want to push here.
Let me rephrase it: Jews are very very very very very much actively engaged in destroying and subverting what we have, way more, but way way more, than the average. That's their inclination, specially as a group. And this we can see with our own eyes.
(In this I include atheist Jews as well, don't think it's only about religion.)
That's what I meant, it's the truth and I find it weird to be condemned for speaking the truth out. That was my point in my previous post. Be more careful with your judgment.
Also, we are getting way too off-topic if we insist in this kind of waste of time. What I had to say about the subject was already said, it should be only a single post about it. It's no use to keep repeating myself for whatever misjudgment or false/different temporal beliefs you hold.
c0d719 No.796713
>>796707
>The New Testament contains the word “intelligence” precisely once and it uses it in a neutral way.
Christ is Logos, google what Logos means. It's the exact original word St. John used, too.
>Yes and “reading the gospel” is non-salvific… Or was that another Protestant innovation that I missed?
True, works are required, but reading the Gospel is certainly a good work. I am Catholic, btw. We preach Faith AND Reason. Unless you're an Orthodox/Schismatic, I suppose.
1f33ce No.796714
1f33ce No.796715
ab2726 No.796716
>>796712
So I actually agree with your sentiment on both of your last posts (other than calling /pol/ “right” despite them possibly being more anti-Christian than the Jews), I didn’t mean to be snide in >>796707. Jews are enemies of the gospel, that’s in the Bible. It doesn’t mean we hate them. Don’t forget that Paul prefaces his condemnation of the Jews with “For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh,” which is Christ-like.
10244d No.796717
d076c1 No.796723
>>796233
>>796242
As an Orthodox I can only say it serves them right for Crimea and Kosovo. When there is not a single church left in Paris, just like in Constantinople, then justice will be served.
S
2f4353 No.796725
>>796723
Read sayings of the desert fathers, and learn charity and humility
d076c1 No.796726
>>796725
>learn charity and humility
You first
8a0fb2 No.796727
hopefully they studied it enough to recreate it but getting the public to go ahead with it would be hard in this day and age
27f47d No.796728
>>796716
I don't hate them as ethnicity. I don't hate them individually most of the time – "loving your enemy" is hard, but I tend, more often than I should, to hate their groups, how they behave and the subversion they use to bring. I hate their promoted materialism, subversion of Christianity and atheism. I hate talmudism and their satanic spawns. I hate how they ally with mohammedans and "evangelicals" to destroy Christians.
I got long ago, way before /pol/ as "entity" and "identity" (and as board in 4chan) was a thing, to the conclusion that if I don't point out what Jews do, so I'm acting wrong – since I am (we are) one of the few people nowadays who has courage and knowledge to do it and go against what's politically correct and against what overprotects them –, if I don't accuse the problems, I'd be a coward and push people to their doom. I need to stay with the truth, no matter how hard things get for me. If I don't point out their mistakes and characteristics and don't accuse them for what they do and have done wrong in the past, and how they do it almost homogeneally in groups, they will never get corrected, we won't be able to defend ourselves, they will never correct themselves, will never repent, but only overprotect their own kind at the cost of other people; making themselves the "eternal victims" and ohers "the eternal oppressors" – they even victimize themselves about the mohammedan conquest of Iberian Peninsula, which brought us slavery, death and forced conversions for fucking 700 years; and where they, the Jews, RULED TYRANNICALLY over our people in their "golden age"; they try to rewrite history so they dindu and didn't deserved to be expelled.
Jews have indeed the inclination to act as rats (even though the other anon who said that may have meant it in other way), that's the point I wanted to bring up, I wasn't simply "stone throwing". And I said to you:
>I don't know if that was what you were doing, but we shouldn't deny the truth as well.
Because I fear the possibility of people bringing up strawmen and joining up in overprotecting Jews. I had no idea what were your real intentions with that (and the positioning "behind" the intentions): if that was just an accusation to dismiss the truth (behind the "rat guy" post) me and the "rat guy" agree with; or an advice of a good heart; or something else that wouldn't dismiss what I see as the truth – which I must always point out as a duty.
>>796717
Sage unintended.
27f47d No.796732
>>796728
>homogeneously
>didn't deserve
Fix'd.
Sorry for any other mistakes. I need to sleep.
eebffd No.796733
>>796453
>my world's on fire, how bout yours?
8f50e6 No.796737
26bd93 No.796756
>>796407
Well he’s not wrong, why should he weep?
b2fe64 No.796799
>>796688
>May God bless the French so they regain their faith
I prayed for this as well after yesterday's compline service.
e5fadb No.796835
What is the narrative in your countries's journals about the investigation? My country's said the French police opened it as a "involuntary destruction" case, and that the restoration workers pointed at an accidental cause.
Any more details or conflicting press releases?
d4c1fd No.796843
>tfw it wasn't a terrorist attack
>tfw a clumsy welder accidentally destroyed a Wonder of the world
ed1924 No.796895
>>796405
Those balls with the crosses remind me of the heads of the robots from Nier: Automata. I initially thought that's what they were.
f626ab No.796926
>>796447
The guy was not banned. You can find those responses are still there. That;s how.
I do not understand the banning protocol at all
f626ab No.796927
>>796682
Yeah sure…I am pretty sure that one needs to be a jew-lover (read someone who worships muh chosenites or excuses anything they do) to enter the presence of God.
It's not like we should uncover deeds of darkness, as is written in Ephesians.
Unless you tell them what they do is wrong and they convert, none of them will get to heaven. You realize that our task is to convert people, help our people and protect our people against evil right?
Reading your posts you always however bend what is said in order to make it fit your preconceived notions.
>>796687
You conflate judging and straightening up a sinner. The first we should not do, the second is OUR TASK TO DO to help the sinners. Not doing so is uncharitable and basically it is failing at being a good Christians.
Less "feews", more charity to unbelievers and sinners. Nobody here says we decide who gets where. But we were instructed what the conditions are and we must spread the gospel. Even if it hurts someone's feels(even yours here)
>>796607
Nope. There were some of those. But more than half of the posts were posts bashing jews.