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Epiphany Christanon 04/14/19 (Sun) 04:23:53 56e4b3 No.795766

I had a bit of an epiphany earlier today when I was thinking about the "Turn The Other Cheeck" doctrine.

Of course there are the interpretations that already exist that range from total pacifism to simply a warning against vindictiveness. I'm not trying to dismantle any of these positions. I simply believe that "Turn the other cheek" has more than one meaning.

So, I have observed that lots of people tend to become the things they hate the most. Let me just name a few.

TJ Kirk, the amazing atheist. What does he hate? He claims to hate religious zealots. But he also advocates for religion to be rooted out and destroyed wherever it is. You could say that he's become more like the dark age inquisitors he loves to demonize so much. Left wing anarchists are supposed to be anti-authority but are way more authoritarian than any average non-political person, advocating for regulations on speech, banning certain symbols and ideas, etc. for the sake of preventing the spread of authoritarian ideologies. You can see it with democrats and republicans as well. Democrats try to shame republicans with an appeal for morality (calling them homophobes, racists, etc.) and the republicans' response is to do the exact same thing back at them (call them homophobes, racists, etc.) and in trying to shed the association with such things, adopt the democrat's tolerance those things.

That being said, if somebody wrongs you and you respond by doing exactly what they did to you back to them, you are no different from they are. If a robber, breaks into your house and steals your stuff, then you track him down, break into his house and steal his stuff, now you're a robber too and no different from him.

If you adopt the methods of your enemies to use against your enemies, you are essentially admitting that they are right and that you need to be more like them, thus falsifying your own worldview and your reason for being opposed to them in the first place.

Just a thought I had.

Christanon 04/14/19 (Sun) 13:00:54 c77a9f No.795839

Interesting thought, serves as a reminder to how even though we may find it easy to have our doubts regarding some theology, or serve it another way than intended - in the end we cannot comprehend the extent of truth in it. How it's better to just trust in God. Like how it took 2000 years to figure out that fasting is actually good for you and it's only now becoming a trend outside of the church.

Christanon 04/14/19 (Sun) 18:16:43 5c8c52 No.795904

>>795766

>So, I have observed that lots of people tend to become the things they hate the most.

Yeah, or another way of viewing it is they project their own way of thinking on others. So their real methods and intentions of thinking are clearly shown in what they say that their supposed enemies are doing. That's why they often seem so psychically able to tell what their supposed "enemies" think, because it's actually secretly what they think.

In addition to this, whether consciously or unconsciously, accusing other people vividly of such specific things acts as a sort of shield for themselves making you the listener think that's the last thing they themselves would do, since they bring it up constantly. When actually its their way of telling the world what they themselves want to do, merely projecting it onothers and acting like its bad.

The sign for this is they always act like they know in vivid detail, almost like a mind reader, exactly what their "enemy" is thinking, when actally it's reflecting how they think. That's why they constantly keep bringing it up, because its not in response to anything but their own thoughts. Its how I know these "anti-hate" protestors are among the most viciously hate-consumed people in the world, because they see themselves.

>If you adopt the methods of your enemies to use against your enemies, you are essentially admitting that they are right and that you need to be more like them, thus falsifying your own worldview and your reason for being opposed to them in the first place.

Right.

Christanon 04/14/19 (Sun) 20:19:42 f3739a No.795934

>>795766

I see, that's for example how Democrats tried to acclaim superiority for themselves with the slogan 'loving Trump's hate' whilst being quite hatefull nevertheless.

Concerning the interpretation I heard a rather intrigueing notion regarding the historic context. According to it slapping someone with the back of was allowed only to be done to slaves. If a citizen was slapped on the left cheek and turned his right cheek in response it would have been a challenge to his opponent to slap him with the back of his hand. The opponent would not dare to do that, as it would have been to heavy of an insult (and may be had dire legal consequences?) Therefore by turning the right cheek to an agressor you force him to step back and to aknowledge you being equal.

>>795904

that's 101 of war propaganda

Christanon 04/14/19 (Sun) 20:27:48 02d7ad No.795937

>>795766

Nailed it

Christanon 04/14/19 (Sun) 20:43:12 02d7ad No.795940

>>795904

>Yeah, or another way of viewing it is they project their own way of thinking on others. So their real methods and intentions of thinking are clearly shown in what they say that their supposed enemies are doing. That's why they often seem so psychically able to tell what their supposed "enemies" think, because it's actually secretly what they think.

I just thought of something; turning the other cheek is very powerful, because if you are humble, and you always recognize your own evil, you can project that onto others and know them. It is the only way projection will ever give you a clear insight into another person's mind is when you are perfectly humble.

It makes sense because you project what you are thinking onto others

Christanon 04/14/19 (Sun) 23:52:24 e89f9b No.795987

>That being said, if somebody wrongs you and you respond by doing exactly what they did to you back to them, you are no different from they are.

This is less like an epiphany, and more like a brain fart. And a commom and trite one at that.

Christanon 04/15/19 (Mon) 07:25:55 e1584b No.796103

It always surprises me how people (especially atheists) misinterpret "an eye for an eye". It's not about being barbaric, it's about limiting retribution - if someone poked your eye out would your first thought be "hey, I'll just take one eye in return" or "I'll kill you for that"? Or "I'll take both their eyes"?

Turn the other cheek is also about limiting retaliation. You can still see it in some parts of the world today where if two people bump into each other on the street it can escalate to beatings or murder. Don't escalate.