/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

Everyone's a sinner, doesn't make it not a sin.

Try introspection. Lots of it. My assumption is that homosexual urges are a consequence of deep seated neuroses that nature does not want to reproduce.

Why were you chasing girls in pre-school? What are your earliest memories? How did your life evolve from the beginning? That kind of thing.

>>792814

>>792811

Yes, but how do I fight these urges?

Check out Courage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUXqgpbua9k

Fr. Scalia

Supere Court Justice Antonin Scalia's son does lots with it.

Unironically read bronze age mindset.

>>792819

Pray the rosary everyday. Your sin is associated with lust, which the rosary is known for killing.

>>792820

>it's okay to disobey God's commands

The absolute state of protestantism.

>>792824

why would anyone in their right mind read anything by someone who calls themselves a pervert

>>792822

>Courage

I realized my message wasn't terribly clear,

Courage is a very orthodox christian group dedicated to helping people with SSA overcome it and turn to God.

It's gotten attacked from the media for being regressive so you know it's good.

Was there ever a turning point in your live where you first felt the urges?

such as molestation or coming across homosexual pornography at a young age?

>>792819

Christ.

>>792824

>>792864

The latter. I was never molested or acted upon sexually in any predatory way.

Hey Anons, i'm in his same situation as OP, and i've read your answers.

I have the rosary, but how do i pray?

>>793081

https://www.dummies.com/religion/christianity/catholicism/how-to-pray-the-rosary/

>>792864

I have a similar issue as OP but what do I do if it's a combo of both?

The porn I was first exposed to was straight but I was only interested in the women, which my molester found strange and then tried to "correct"

>>793097

>luminous mysteries but no prayer to St. Michael

shig

>>793870

I was only half serious. The luminous mysteries aren't actually part of the Rosary that Our Lady told us to pray, but at the end of the Rosary, I feel that the prayer to St. Micheal is a staple that everyone should pray.

>>793820

>>793007

>>793081

To all of you folk and for anybody who deals with lustful thoughts in general as well. The first step that you need to do is to not dwell on these thoughts of lusts.

Be more diligent in your daily life, the moment a lustful thought crosses your mind immediately rebuke it. And then drown it out with an Our Father and Hail Mary, Prayer to your Guardian Angel or the St. Michael prayer.

Take your pick I would recommend praying the last two in general each day as well in addition to whatever prayer to our Lord you already do.

By praying everytime you catch yourself in a sinful thought you're not only praying to the Lord for deliverance and aid in overcoming these thoughts. You're also training yourself to just drop these thoughts immediately. I used to have many a sinful lustful thoughts cross my mind each day, they have lessened greatly over time doing the aforementioned rebuking and prayer. And when they do come they're instantly silenced by thoughts of God.

It is a start to your problems anyhow, for the one anon that is typically straight thinking that should fix both your issues. To the anons that have SSA as a default, once you stop thinking about lustful thoughts you can work on trying to change the root of the problem. I can't offer much to help you here in this regard unfortunately, all I can do is include you in my prayers. I think the rosary daily with intentions of overcoming homosexuality is a good idea. And I believe there are some good sites that help Christians overcome SSA.

God bless you anons and good luck.

>>792811

Since you haven't always been like that, and consider it weird yourself, chances are they aren't inherent impulses and are learned behaviour.

Some possible reasons:

1. you have low self esteem in one area or another, this makes you want to 'give up' or be submissive to other men

2. you confuse a wanting of brotherhood with sexual ideas. being liked and respected by your male peers, and bonding with them in brotherly ways is what you probably really want but don't understand it.

3. porn - years of porn inducing escalation of perverted fetishes which don't at all reflect your real sexuality or what you really want from life.

Stop porning forever, stop fapping for a month or so, and avoid sexual thoughts as a whole for a while. After around 6 months, you'll realise your mind feels a lot cleaner, and the fetishes are gone.

4. not enough male role models when growing up. you learned feminine behaviour from being around your mother too much. you can fix it, and raise yourself now, by reading and studying real men, and by spending time with fully developed men. do what they do, spend time with them, and over time you will have learned a lot.

You mention porn, the longer you are away from it, and the less you think about it, the less hold it will have on you. You won't even think about it and will wonder why you ever found it interesting in the first place after a year.

There's a website called 'your brain on porn' which explains some it. Read some stuff on there for a few hours, you'll feel better.

Also, if you masturbate, then do it only in the shower, away from the computer, thinking about penetrating a girl you know/like/have a chance with, and no weird or taboo stuff. Do it maximum 2-3 times a week, spend no longer than 10-15 minutes on it. That way it won't have a hold on you anymore, especially with porn gone.

When you have a girlfriend/wife, stop masturbating completely if you are having intercourse with her. Beforehand, though, it could be helpful for you to masturbate to the idea of her, it will make you less nervous when it happens.

>>792819

Stay away from porn forever, stop masturbating for a month or two so that masturbating no longer has a hold over your behaviour or mind or routine.

It is difficult the first few weeks, but after that it does become a lot easier.

Keep yourself busy, stay around other people as much as possible, keep your door/curtains open so you don't have privacy in the first few weeks or as long as you need.

Don't make a big deal out of it if you slip up, just start again and consider it a positive that you went for however many days without it.

In your thoughts, just push away the wrong ones, and perverted urges, they are just echoes of the porn, and will go away in time.

It might help to express anger AT the thought, not at yourself, and shout at it to go away, either in your head or out loud if you want. That will put you in control.

When you have a long term girlfriend, you will realise that you love being around her, love everything about her, and porn and any weird fetishes will be completely gone from your mind. You'll instead experience a great thrill from simply holding her hand or kissing her on the lips.

Focus on those things, not everything in life is about sex, even though that is what porn wants us to believe.