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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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cf129b  No.787842

Apparently he’s like a proto-reformer, and also some Orthodox consider him a saint? What was his theology? Why was he burned in the first place? Is he a saint?

aa0a18  No.787846

>>787842

He had it comin’


cf129b  No.787848

>>787846

Why? What’s he do?


740d2e  No.787872

>>787848

IIRC he caused a sort of precursor to the Reformation by starting a church called the Hussites which believed most of the things Protestants would later believe.


740d2e  No.787873

>>787863

Unfortunately there's a lot of Eastern Christians who are just as fanatical in their hatred of Rome as any fringe Evangelical group, and they'll side with anyone who opposes Rome no matter what their actual stances are.


432f9d  No.787880

>>787842

I don't know of any Orthodox that considers Hus a saint and i'm pretty sure there is none. I also don't know about his theology but i believe that burning him alive and the attitude of the Catholic church of that era in general is what gave birth to the reformation in the first place. Don't forget that the Templars were also burned by the Catholic church for similar reasons.


a8d2c6  No.787978

>>787873

Hmm just like the baptists and the adventists and basically every evangelical christian


d1c050  No.787994

Treated the Eucharist as bread, is responsible for raising angry anti-Catholic mobs that murdered monks and raped nuns.

For whatever reason, Protestants have this nasty temptation to idolize evil men. Hus himself seems to be propped up more out of Czech nationalism than any rational religious purpose.


d1c050  No.787995

>>787994

Actually, I'm forced to retract; looks like all the mess Huss is responsible for happened after his execution.

>>787878

>Should be enough to see into what he preached

"Noel Alexander enumerates the errors of Huss under thirty heads (3). We will only take a succinct view of the most important ones. The Church, he said, was composed of the predestined alone (Art. 1, 3, 5, 6); and the two Natures, the Divinity and the Humanity, are one Christ (Art. 4). Peter neither was nor is the head of the Catholic Church (Art. 7, 10, 11); and Civil and Ecclesiastical Lords, as Prelates and Bishops, are no longer so while in mortal sin (Art. 30); and he says the same of the Pope (Art. 20, 22, 24, 26). The Papal dignity is derived from the power of the Emperor (Art. 9); and Ecclesiastical obedience is an invention of the Priests (Art. 15). Everything the wicked man does is wicked, and every thing the virtuous man does is virtuous (Art. 16). Good Priests ought to preach, though they be excommunicated (Art. 17, 18); and in Art. 19, he reprobates Ecclesiastical censures. It was an act of iniquity to condem the forty-five Articles of Wickliffe (Art. 25). There is no necessity of a head to rule the Church, for the Apostles and other Priests governed it very well before the office of Pope was introduced"

No surprise the Orthodox likes him, it's basically Orthodox + OSAS Baptist teachings.


9dd597  No.792356

>>787842

Wait, WHAT?

NO, Eastern Orthodox do not consider him a Saint. He is a complete heretic whose heroes included Muslims and Hermeticists. Why would we consider him a Saint when he denied many of our teachings too?

The only ones who might consider him a saint are Anglicans and Lutherans because they have a tendency to canonize anyone who "btfo'd papists" even if they're heretics like George Fox.


96c97d  No.792370

>>787873

Well, nobody likes heretics


4c285b  No.792385

>>787876

Translating someone's work doesn't mean you agree with them. What a foolish notion.


595534  No.792394

Orthodox church considers Jan Hus as a heretic as well as Calvin,Luther or the current pope.They all deviated from the line drawn by the holy fathers: St. Anthony the Great

- St. Ephrem Sir

- St. Arsenius the Great

- St. Isaac Sir

- St. John Chrysostom

- St. Basil the Great

- St. Gregory Theologian etc.etc.


df037f  No.792518

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Does that mean that Jan Hus's and Jerome's martyric deaths could be considered martyrdom for Orthodoxy?

—It was precisely of Orthodoxy that they were accused. This was one of the points of accusation of their heresy. However, they considered themselves Catholics and officially were so. Only at the end of the twentieth century did the Primate of the Roman Catholic Church, John Paul II, express his deep regret over their burning at the stake. But he did not go beyond regret. And they both, Jan Hus and Jerome of Prague, died for the undistorted faith, for the pure faith of Christ—that is, for Orthodoxy. Therefore we are completely justified in canonizing them as saints. This has already been confirmed by the Church of Cyprus and the Greek Church. Other Orthodox Churches also support us.

http://orthochristian.com/49048.html


df037f  No.792519

>>792518

This is a quote by Blessed Archbishop Christopher of Prague, Metropolitan of the Czech and Slovakian lands


df037f  No.792522


ababe7  No.792524

>>787995

>Actually, I'm forced to retract; looks like all the mess Huss is responsible for happened after his execution.

I mean you don't have to fully retract that, just amend the statement. He is still responsible for the angry mob of proto-prots even if he himself didn't raise them. If he hadn't promoted his heresy that mob wouldn't have committed the atrocities.


738cbb  No.792638

considering how czechs are all atheists, his ideas were probably not very good

also

>venerated by orthoprots

figures


dcc205  No.792653

>>792638

>orthoprot

Latins can't meme. Martin Luther was a Catholic monk, we had already schismed with you guys for half a millenium by the time of the 95 theses.


e508d0  No.792671

>>792653

>Easterner admits they were the first Protestants

God bless You for being honest.


8f18e0  No.792680

>>792356

You have to consider that most catholics on this board are clueless about everything related with Christianity and they just throw words around to cause unrest. The majority of them are just LARPers anyway who've never set foot on a church, there's a reason why catholic churches around the world are empty and dying.


e508d0  No.792690

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>>792680

<Catholicism is on the decli-

>The number of Catholics has increased at a faster rate than the rest of the population, newly released statistics by the Vatican reveal.

>Over the course of nine years, the number of Catholics worldwide has increased by 17.8 percent, compared to the global population, which increased by 17.3 percent.

>From 2005-2014, the number of Catholics grew from 1.12 billion to 1.27 billion.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/the-catholic-church-grew-faster-than-the-global-population-last-year-79664




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