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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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664723  No.787392

Throughout the Gospels, Jesus is primarily concerned about the Jewish people. He does a few miracles for Gentiles dogs, since dogs must get a few crumbs now and then, but mostly he sticks to his own. In the Gospel of John some Greeks want to meet with Jesus, but he has no time for them.

The book of Acts and some of the Pauline letters detail a schism between Paul and the Jerusalem Church. There was initial disagreement with acceptance of Gentiles coming to the Church. They say the winning side writes the history, and in the case of Christianity, the winning side writes the Bible. One could justifiably claim that the generally pro-Roman stance of the Gospels, and Paul's justification for Gentile believers, are modifications due to the fact that the Gentile believers inherited the faith when Jerusalem was wiped out. So you get universal declarations to all mankind, which might be putting words in the mouth of Jesus.

But the fact that Jesus was almost exclusively interested in Jews, and there was initial concerns about Gentiles, what if Christianity is a massive presumption on the part of Gentiles, and they are in fact illegitimate. Of course Christians make all kinds of justifications, and trust all kinds of warm and fuzzy feelings that God is on their side etc, but remember Jesus's teaching about false disciples: "Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!"

Of course every believer has the conceit that they are special - they are a true disciple. But what if they are like the false disciples, who will be cast away?

This lack of legitimacy must subconsciously gnaw at some groups, so you get Black Hebrew Israelites, and others who believe themselves to be of the lost tribes. And you get Exclusive groups who shun outsiders and who believe they are the only true believers.

So if one were to entertain that Jesus even exists, there is no security for the gentile believer. If people who truly believed they were disciples can be cast away, what makes YOU so sure?

d802eb  No.787396

>>787392

Read the four gospels ALL THE WAY through. King James Version.

Can you tell me what the parable of the unfruitful fig tree means?


5b5546  No.787419

>>787392

Retard

>>787396

Retard

Good thread so far


f1076d  No.787421

Matthew 8:10-13


81083f  No.787424

>>787392

>hey guys if you accept my premise that scripture is corrupt than how can you deny my pet heresy?

Well I'm sure not up to that challenge


77ae8e  No.787425

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Go home, muhammad you have no power here. Jesus came for all people.

Luke

{2:23} As it is written in the law of the Lord: Every male opening the womb shall be called holy to the Lord:

{2:24} And to offer a sacrifice, according as it is written in the law of the Lord, a pair of turtledoves or two young pigeons:

{2:25} And behold there was a man in Jerusalem named Simeon: and this man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel. And the Holy Ghost was in him.

{2:26} And he had received an answer from the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death before he had seen the Christ of the Lord.

{2:27} And he came by the Spirit into the temple. And when his parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him according to the custom of the law,

{2:28} He also took him into his arms and blessed God and said

>{2:29} Now thou dost dismiss thy servant, O Lord, according to thy word in peace:

>{2:30} Because my eyes have seen thy salvation,

>{2:31} Which thou hast prepared before the face of all peoples:

>{2:32} 'A light to the revelation of the Gentiles and the glory of thy people Israel

Jesus also fullfills the promise God gave to Abraham

Genesis

{17:1} And after he began to be ninety and nine years old, the Lord appeared to him: and said unto him: I am the Almighty God: walk before me, and be perfect.

{17:2} And I will make my covenant between me and thee: and I will multiply thee exceedingly.

{17:3} Abram fell flat on his face.

{17:4} And God said to him: I am, and my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.

{17:5} Neither shall thy name be called any more Abram: but thou shalt be called Abraham: because I have made thee a father of many nations.

And prophecy to Isaiah

Isaiah

{42:5} Thus saith the Lord God that created the heavens, and stretched them out: that established the earth, and the things that spring out of it: that giveth breath to the people upon it, and spirit to them that tread thereon.

{42:6} I the Lord have called thee in justice, and taken thee by the hand, and preserved thee. And I have given thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles:

{42:7} That thou mightest open the eyes of the blind, and bring forth the prisoner out of prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

So on and so forth, all emphasis mine


9d029b  No.787449

>>787392

Why do you believe Jesus came for the jews? He called them (or at least the Pharisees) corrupt devils. He also said explicitly He came for the lost tribes so they had to be someone. The Deuterocanonicals call the Spartans one of these lost tribes and since they were White it’s not much of a stretch to say other White tribes are likely Israelites. Also I don’t see why non-white groups can’t receive Christian education, even if their genetics make them tend towards sin.




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