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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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42f454  No.783950

Someone on 4/pol/ told me the effects of baptism include heightened consciousness, heart opening bliss, illumination. Is that true to some extent? Can orthodox or Catholics confirm?

39d51a  No.783972

The Effects of Baptism include:

-The remission of all sin, original and actual

-The remission of the punishment (including temporal) due to those sins

-Infusion of supernatural grace, gifts, and virtues

(The infusion of Sanctifying grace makes the baptized, adopted sons of God and heirs to heavenly glory)

-Conferral of the right to special graces to aid the baptized to fufill their baptismal promises

-Impression of a character on the soul that is an eternal seal


5c50ae  No.783978

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>>783950

Maybe. I was baptised as a child and even I fell out of Holy Mother Church for several years before I knew what a mistake that was. If you want bliss/peace of mind, pray the rosary on the daily. It transforms you.


2bcb49  No.783996

I was baptized as a baby but I feel like I need to do it again after my return to Christ after many years of atheism and paganism. Can I or would it not count?


9132d8  No.784001

>>783996

As the scripture states, "there is one baptism". Anyone doing otherwise is in error. For a funny story, even St. Athanasius, when a little kid, was found playing around with friends and they were "pretend" baptizing each other. A bishop caught wind of this, admonished them, and merely christened them.. acknowledging Athanasius' baptism as valid. Then he took him under his wing.


0a6d58  No.784007

Baptism by water is a ritual signifying the new life that a believer now has. There is nothing magical about it.

Baptism of the holy spirit is the point of salvation, when the spirit now dwells within you.

>can eastern orthodox or roman catholics confirm?

itching ears

read the Bible


39d51a  No.784008

>>783996

Baptism can not be repeated because it leaves an eternal seal upon the soul. What you need is confession


39d51a  No.784030

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>>784007

Baptismal Regeneration is needed for Salvation.


c85e61  No.784035

>>784030

whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


c85e61  No.784081

>>784078

because the Bible says to do it, just like any other instruction. "If ye love me, keep my commandments"

It's not optional for Christian living, but it's not a requirement for salvation.


c85e61  No.784089

>>784088

Yes, if we're talking about the same objective. That's my point.

It is a requirement put upon Christians, but not a requirement to become born again.


dfd662  No.784107

>>783950

> heightened consciousness

>heart opening bliss

> illumination

we don`t do drugs


c31717  No.784818

what if Christened in one denomination you no longer believe to be the True Church?


d2a78f  No.784819

>>784818

In Christ, there is NO division & no denominations. We Are One; One Body!


f9318f  No.784833

>>783950

I think that if you were baptized as a child you will ALWAYS be called back to god. Notice how secular folks are always saying stuff like "I have no problem if someone wants to be Christian, but at least let them make the choice to get baptized when they're old enough to understand it." this is straight out of Satan's mouth. If you don't even believe in god, why would you care about baptized babies? It would just be a stupid pointless moistening of a baby to you. Also if you read articles online by Jew York hipsters, a TON of them were baptized and they literally write about how they cannot "shake the indoctrination," as they put it. The Holy Spirit is calling out to them and they've been tricked into thinking its just childhood physchological conditioning.

The day if judgement will be more tolerable for Sodom and gommorah than for people who were reborn and still deny god's love.


c85e61  No.784834

>>784819

misapplication. The call to unity is for the local church.




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