dae1ec No.770039
talk about your recent /christian/ feels
>tfw i realized i'm too idealistic to fit in with the degenerate normie masses, but still too degenerate and broken to ever fit in with real life tradcaths
50678e No.770047
>>770039
I no longer pray. As in, I do not pray asking for anything but instead thank God for everything I have. I have gotten to a point where I feel as though my prayers do little to nothing in my life and let God decide what I do and do not have in life. I feel miserable. Please someone give me advice and scripture to reassure me that my life isn't just a plastic bag in the wind.
876ad5 No.770048
>>770039
>tfw came out of confession feeling great
dae1ec No.770050
c40252 No.770057
Things that Feel Bad
>Converting to Catholicism, have to do it at a Newman Center
>The city and state you live in are going to hell in a handbasket
>Relationship with Dad hasn't been the same since I decided to convert
>Family has constant health issues
>Want to quit University and join religious life, don't know if I should
>Can't sit still and read silently without feeling constantly distracted
>No Job
Things that Feel Good
>Knowing I'll be baptized and receive first communion in April
>Getting a measurable hold on my wanking habit, can go three days on average rather than twice a day
>Immeasurable Joy praying the Rosary
>Family members are better off now than years ago
>Know a group of guys here that share my beliefs and are happy to spend time with me and we don't have to censor ourselves.
fd20b2 No.770060
>told off some giggling teenage girl at McDonald's, who wanted to log in with my order so that she'd gain points to be able to get a meal for free
>I don't know if I sinned or not, because on one hand I'm annoyed that she was trying to get a free meal by cheating the system, not even because she was without money but because she's just a dumb teenager who wants to use other people to get free fast food, but on another hand who am I to deny someone food?
feels bad.
>have been masturbating again lately because I really miss my girlfriend
feels bad.
>reading 5 chapters of scriptures in the morning and evening every day, almost done with the Old Testament
feels good.
>have no one to talk with about religion offline because everyone I know is a non-Christian and people at church either don't speak my language or do not want to talk about theology
feels bad, man.
129868 No.770226
>>770039
>Piss and moan thread
The Blessed Mother of God suffered more than any other mere creature. (I say mere creature because Jesus Christ obviously suffered worse, but wasn't a mere creature but God).
Did the Blessed Virgin complain? Did she shout 'woe is me' as she suffered her 7 sorrows piercing her heart? No! We can't even begin to understand how painful it must have been for our Mother to watch her Blessed Son crucified for us! How can we begin to fathom the pain of her spiritual martyrdom? And how can we possibly complain about our sorrows, knowing that Mary did not complain about her 7 sorrows?
https://youtu.be/tDSsFn-JaXY
129868 No.770227
>>770226
Allow me to add what St Paul of the Cross writes in his book 'Flowers of the Passion' ;
'Already the walls of the prison are crumbling to dust, and the prisoner is
about to enjoy the liberty of the children of God.
Sigh after that happy country ; leave
your heart free to take its flight thither;
above all, drink, with love, of your
Saviour's chalice ; inebriate yourself
with it —and how ? By pure love and
pure suffering; unite the two, or, rather,
cast a drop of your sufferings into the
ocean of divine love.'
<By pure love and pure suffering; unite the two, or, rather, cast a drop of your sufferings into the ocean of divine love.
4b356e No.770228
>>770047
>>770050
>I no longer pray. As in, I do not pray asking for anything but instead thank God for everything I have.
This is a good thing though. It means you no longer love God out of some interested desire but genuinely, you're starting to learn real gratitude towards him and this is one of the highest virtue a good servant can learn.
>I feel miserable.
You shouldn't. I mean, if you've mastered real gratitude, that is, but I guess you're still on the path to it and that's why God is humiliating yourself.
I don't know your lives anons but I want to remind you that, this material existence is nothing but a trial. Sometimes I'm worrying : "what am I doing with my life?", "I need to let a legacy" "I need to do something to get X/Y/Z" but then I remember all those things are ultimately meaningless in face of the only necessary one : Getting back to God.
He wants our souls, and he wants them pure. We've been called. That alone means we are not meaningless no matter what the outwards appearance might be. Everyone dies in the end, the only thing that matters is whether God approves you or not.
129868 No.770232
>>770039
It is these:
<degenerate normie masses
that you should be praying for. They are not 'normies', they are beloved children of God. Pray for all sinners.
42a450 No.770298
I wish I was never born and I want to die.
25ee9a No.770304
2d8fb9 No.770377
Saw a nice sunrise today.
Feels good
Drank some gross coffee today.
Feels bad
6185f4 No.770384
>>770048
>TGW God brought the perfect woman into my life and is using her to make me into the man He wants me to be and is using me to make her into a Godly and righteous woman
25ee9a No.770438
>celebrated my best friend birthday today
Feels good
>couldn't eat the cake cause diet
Feels bad
a16305 No.770447
>>770226
>>770227
>Even though you are not on the level of these saints, and may not be for a long time if ever, you should still feel ashamed for not being on their level yet, and should just shut-up about your feelings.
Most people are not, and will not ever be the Virgin Mary or St. Paul of the Cross. Talking about our hopes, triumphs, reasons for praising God, sorrows, fears, failures, etc. can be helpful as well too. Addict recovery programs are literally built around this concept.
>"Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ."
>Galatians 6:2
a16305 No.770448
>>770039
>tfw i realized i'm too idealistic to fit in with the degenerate normie masses, but still too degenerate and broken to ever fit in with real life tradcaths
Don't be too quick or too harsh in judgement. As it is said, you will by surprised by who ends up in Heaven or Hell. Some of those "degenerate normie masses" may just need a hand up. And all of those "real life tradcaths" still struggle with demons, sins and flaws, just like everyone else:
>"For all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God."
>Romans 3:23
1721fa No.770453
>No car so I can't go to church
>I have to ask my atheist parents who said no
>RCIA starts in the fall, so I have to wait another year for baptism
>It's two days a week, and I have no idea if I could get my parents to take me
>My Dad was raised Catholic, and it brings me to tears to think that he's saved and is now an atheist and he acts like baptism is nothing
>He also has blue eyes and I have brown eyes and I have an inferiority complex
>I made an eye appointment to get colored contact lenses, and now I have work and can't go - I figure God is trying to tell me not to wear contacts
>But I also really need to get glasses, so I do need to get the exam
>He is, for some reason, still willing to describe Catholic rituals to me
>I listen like a starving dog with steak being waved in front of him
>I've been told by Catholics that while I may be able to get to Heaven, my insistence on sinning until my deathbed means I'll have to sit in purgatory for a very long time
>Still just glad that they said I can get baptised and go to Heaven
I'm not afraid to admit that I'm hurt and weak. I can't commit suicide, and I can't go to Heaven unless I get baptised. I am winnie the poohed. Satan is trying to keep people from baptism. I don't think I'm gonna make it.
a16305 No.770456
>>770453
Take heart. If you want it bad enough, God will find a way for you. Don't trust in your own strength or in that of others: trust in God. The thief on the cross was not baptized and yet God saved him.
f16d47 No.770464
>>770226
>just be a sinless saint, bro!
>just be literally perfect, bro!
>struggling with sin? just stop sinning, bro!
f16d47 No.770466
>>770453
>>No car so I can't go to church
where do you live?
1721fa No.770474
>>770466
Kitsap, Washington state. I'm 40 minutes/23 miles away from Holy Trinity Catholic church in Bremerton.
But I also travel around Washington for work, so sometimes I'm not in Kitsap.
f16d47 No.770479
>>770474
i'm on the opposite coast, but maybe try calling the parish administration and seeing if anyone will pick you up. i know this would be hard to do if you are as autistic as me, took me half a year to work up the courage to go to confession for the first time since i was like 10
7d313d No.770486
>>770453
If you're trusting in a work for salvation, you are believing a false gospel
714bf7 No.770504
My feels have held for some time now. I quickly regained my faith but had trouble straightening my behavior for some time. When I lost my faith I felt estranged from the world while being a part of it - as paradoxically as it may sound it is so - I always felt something is wrong with this world right now. I couldn't put my finger on it. When I regained my faith, became more aware of what's going on I became more out going while knowing that I do not fit into general society. I fit among Christians, even some atheist groups, but not everyone.
Overall I feel like I stopped counting on God as "him doing what I want". I know he leads me where he wants and I have to accept it. I recently realized that more than a year ago I got on the ride that never ends - until the almighty calls for you to leave this world. So whatever happens, I have to take it humbly. It might sound I am happy. In a way I am but lately I have been feeling really drained by uncertainty. I would like to make a positive difference to people in my life, yet I struggle in managing my own problems still. So I feel less potent to "help" anyone with anything.
My feelings often alternate between "why am I here? I just wish my life ended already" and "All right I am here to take what is prepared for me, gladly".
6c2c85 No.770509
>>770474
Aaaayyyyy, I grew up across the sound from you. Live in good ol' Dixie now. Man I miss the Sound. Feels bad
But now I don't live in California 2: THC Boogaloo. Feels good
1721fa No.770515
>>770479
>i'm on the opposite coast, but maybe try calling the parish administration and seeing if anyone will pick you up
They actually have a group near me, and they told me to call Volunteer Services. I left them a message on thr phone, but they never got back to me.
>i know this would be hard to do if you are as autistic as me, took me half a year to work up the courage to go to confession for the first time since i was like 10
I'm autistic, but I've gotten over my social phobia.
If anyone can help me, I can be reached at; acm2018b@protonmail.com
>>770486
I want to be baptised because that's what God said to do. I personally believe in baptism by desire, but only on the condition that God will grant me Heaven for trying to follow the rules.
To be honest, I just came here to bitch about my lack of baptism.
>>770509
I was born in Florida, and lived in the south until I moved to Texas, then New Hampshire, and finally to WA.
My grandmother is a Catholic and lives in NC, but my Dad and her hate each other so by the time I decided I wanted to become a Christian I was on the opposite side of the country.
5fceac No.770516
>21st birthday is today
>one of my best friends got me a kinda larpy but still cool and thoughtful Templar cross shirt
>going out to a bar tonight for a bit with some bros
>not much homework at all right now, really loving my classes this semester
>I've grown a ton in my faith over the past year or so
Feels good
However
>that one best friend of mine is gay and not a Christian, and I don't know how he'd feel about trying to follow Jesus
Feels bad. I have faith that the Lord will give me a good chance to try and help him out, but I'm not sure how he'll react. He's been having a lot of people treating him differently because of his orientation recently, and I don't want it to come off that way. Almost every time we hang out he's saying something good about how godly and Christian I am, maybe he secretly wants to be Christian himself and all I need to do is reach out to him about it, give him some place to start his journey. I'd just hate to see someone so close to me not know the love that God has for them.
f16d47 No.770524
>>770515
good luck anon, i'll pray for you
a16305 No.770529
>>770515
>I left them a message on thr phone, but they never got back to me.
If you're still having trouble, and are open to another option, there is an Orthodox church roughly in the same area you've described yourself as being in that you can reach out to if you want:
http://stelizabethorthodox.org
>I personally believe in baptism by desire, but only on the condition that God will grant me Heaven for trying to follow the rules.
Fair enough.
>My grandmother is a Catholic and lives in NC
Small world. NC is my home state where I reside. Was born there, then spent the first three years of my life in Japan due to my Dad being in the Marines, then we moved back and been here ever since.
a70b17 No.770542
I hate that I have to go to confession every week because whoops, I thought for a small moment about how I and my ex girlfriend used to love each other, and I thought about the sex part and got an erection in the process.
I love that I have found a trade that I want to learn and master for the rest of my life.
I pray that God wants me to become a monk or something similar so I can be free of ordinary temptations and material possessions. Sometimes I wish I could just pray daily, give grace, smile to my brothers and listen to the birds outside.
8280aa No.770556
Well
Positive things
>tfw when got confirmed this Sunday
It feels good now that I am fully a true soldier of Christ.
The shitty stuff
>tfw can't be a priest because it would be because I lost a girl, not out of true vocation.
>tfw can't marry because of said girl.
Maybe I'll became a Deacon or something. Who knows.
d95586 No.770625
Good feels
>I've settled into my local Catholic Church easier than I thought I would over the last several weeks, and am strongly considering RCIA
>Currently reading the Gospel in my new Bible (RSV2CE) and really enjoying it
>Bought my first handgun, which has brought me some joy in an otherwise bleak Winter
Bad feels
>My closest Protestant friends no longer talk to me (don't know why)
>My Prot Bible study group reacted poorly the other day when I told them I was attending a Catholic Church
>My Prot dad seems bitter about my conversion whenever I visit
>I've been very lonely lately, which isn't helped by Winter weather keeping me indoors
>Homework is piling up (need to spend less time on this site)
>Being non-Catholic in a Catholic Church will ensure I stay single for the foreseeable future
How I'd love to meet a decent Christian woman I can feel passionate about… the closest I've come to that is this Prot girl I've gotten to know (homely, but sweet and conservative), however I'm quite confident she wouldn't begome gadolig.
db6a07 No.770640
>>770039
>shit mood and day
>saw porn and edged today
>having to study 4+ hours a day ( which is not much, but i spend the whole mourning out and i'm not accustumed to studying that much)
>competing for a art magazine but can't come up with something good and worthy
>don't know what to do/ or feel about ex
>frustrated as an artist because my drawings are not good enough as they could be
pic related if anyone is interested, you can use it as an wallpaper if you like. This is supposed to compete for a place in a magazine! pah, i won't win and i need to create something else.
b0a4b7 No.770641
>>770542
>and I thought about the sex part and got an erection in the process.
I wouldn't consider that mortally sinful, unless you masturbated.
>I pray that God wants me to become a monk or something similar so I can be free of ordinary temptations and material possessions
no, monks do not get a "get out of temptation free" card
1c838b No.770646
>>770057
Hey bro, I'm your bro, bro.
7999cb No.770648
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>>770542
What this anon >>770641 said. Becoming a monk wont makes things hunky-dory. It'll only make it worse. Read the lives of the monks on Mt. Athos and they will tell you the spiritual warfare is even harder as a monk than it is in the laity. The demons love to harass and tempt holy people the most.
357c49 No.770708
>>770642
I like it, the nose seems to merge with the window pane, a thicker outline would fix it.
129868 No.770727
>>770447
I understand that. Comparing our lives to saints is the perfect way to humble ourselves. The humble will not complain, but will have faith and rejoice in all the hardships God puts in their way.
'Do not be troubled because people
despise and ignore me. God permits
this trial to humble me, and I rejoice
in it.' - St Paul of the Cross
I will also of course pray for all of you and help carry your burdens. But we could all do with meditating on our nothingness for a while.
129868 No.770729
>>770464
I never told you to be sinless brother, I would be a complete hypocrite if I were to say that, and I am ashamed that I came across like that. I apologise, all I wanted was to share my understanding of the virtues that follow humility. God bless you.
50c96f No.770775
>>770641
>I wouldn't consider that mortally sinful, unless you masturbated.
Having the thoughts but rejecting them is alright. Entertaining them for a moment I'm pretty sure is wrong, because I am voluntarily thinking about a girl I'm not married to with lust. I just feel like I'm defiling her and I am scandalized by the idea that another man would do the same things that I did to her.
The priest said something about how it wasn't as bad as I thought it was, but I couldn't hear him well because mass was being said at the same time. Although every priest I have confessed this to has recognized that these consented thoughts were worthy of confession.
8e85ca No.770864
>>770775
Only if you consent the thoughts than its a sin.
Every sin starts like this
1st Temptation, the thought so called
2nd delight, you see that it would feel good to accept the temptation.
>there's no sin at this point.
3rd Consent of the Will. Now that you saw the thought was good you accept it and enjoy it.
This is the sin. (and mortal in case of lust for a woman that's not your wife).
3e27aa No.770951
>>770226
>Mother of God
Imagine the Catholics on Judgement day trying to justify/explain this one. God shares his glory with no one.
6e6111 No.770952
>>770047
"You're shit's winnie the poohed man"
-Jesus, page 47
50c96f No.770981
>>770864
I usually draw the line at the point where I get an erection. To me this is my body signaling to my mind that I have crossed the line of consent. I also tend to get wet dreams as a result of frequent thoughts.
50c96f No.770983
>>770951
So when God offers you to become His son as per John 1:12, will you refuse and damn yourself instead?
129868 No.770984
>>770951
Hail Mary, Queen of Heaven.
b45bf1 No.771013
>>770951
>God shares his glory with no one.
Why wouldn't he?
He shows Himself completely to everyone in heaven. He is the source of everlasting hapiness. To know God is our uttermost desire and we will partake in his glory in heaven and we will worship him forever with all the Saints and angels.
Weird theology my tigger and be careful with your nestorianism.
From the rules
>a Christian is one who believes in the Nicene Creed (Specifically the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed) and the Chalcedonian Definition.
Cease your heresy.
b45bf1 No.771024
>>770981
We are not in control of the motion of our organs anymore since the fall.
There are involuntary erections that happen even when someone is trying to reject the thought.
>I also tend to get wet dreams
Well you are sleeping so it's not your fault.
That being said if you enjoy even for a moment having an erections by having those thoughts then it's a sin.
50c96f No.771046
>>771024
>That being said if you enjoy even for a moment having an erections by having those thoughts then it's a sin.
Yeah that's what I thought and that's why I confess them. It's a pain because those sinful thoughts creep in when I think about the deep love and intimacy we used to have, which itself was everything but sinful. This happens almost exclusively when I miss her and try to evaluate my choice by allowing myself to feel the things I feel for her.
Wet dreams always feel bad, though.
8280aa No.771051
>>771046
Feels bad my man
>Wet dreams always feel bad, though.
winnie the pooh this.
I hate to wake up and having to change my underwear or worse the sheets.
f1c7fc No.771082
>>770048
How specific are you guys in confession? How specific do you think most people are?
Surely, somewhere, sometime, someone has told his Father he watched MLP porn.
a16305 No.771103
>>770727
Yes, it's an admirable goal, perhaps to obtain eventually. But once again, you come off as disassociated from the spiritual level of most average people, as well as the ultimate point of this thread. And I'm sorry, but if someone is suicidal or at least mentally on the edge, keeping quiet and "not complaining", rather than seeking out help or a sympathetic ear, is terrible advice.
b0e80e No.771106
>>771082
Let's imagine you confess you watched porn. You don't need to specify the genre.
But you watched gay porn that little detail changes the nature of the sin. You are guilty of pornography and faggotry.
So when confessing mortal sins you must specify the circunstances that change the nature of the sin.
Btw the priest cannot judge you for your shitty tastes.
All he will say is hmm hmm ok. Nothing more.
ddbb6b No.771119
>>770951
I am gonna say the n-word
Begone nestorian
c8ca99 No.771123
>>770984
Granted Mary is the mother of God but isn't saying "Queen of Heaven" kind of putting her next to or on equal footing God the Father, whom is the King of Heaven?
ec563d No.771142
>>770057
I'll pray for you anon, you'll make it. I highly recommend you get this: https://www.baroniuspress.com/book.php?wid=56&bid=63#tab=tab-1
It will change your life, anon.
b0a4b7 No.771146
>>771123
No. Saying She is "Queen of Heaven" is not a misnomer, but the truth, because She is greater than any Saint in Heaven, for She bore Jesus Christ (and is Immaculate, but we can agree that bearing Christ is great alone).
If we didn't call Her "Queen of Heaven", what would we call Her? the gender non-binary double plus good womxn in heaven?
2e53bc No.771147
b0a4b7 No.771148
>>771147
St. Mary, Queen of Heaven, greater than all the Saints, and God's greatest Creation*
fixed it for you.
by showing respect to the Queen, you show respect to the Most High. If you've ever read a history book, there have been more than a few situations of a child-King with a Queen-mother.
Your confusion seems to be decidedly modern, but the Church knows its history and sees the precedent.
386c34 No.771149
>tfw I proposed to my gf
>tfw she said yes
Feels good man
Thank you, God, for putting her in my life.
8f8769 No.771150
>Tfw became slightly aggressive since september due to college
>Bullshit overload by the inept bureaucracy that's my campus, combined with the loads of work makes me livid
>Haven't had a Nofap streak longer than 2 weeks since last year's finals due to this
>I could get a gf but they're all degenerates and/or hoes
>The only people I can talk to on campus about morals and values are muslims
>I'll be abstaining from communion again, the whole community probably knows I'm beating more wood than a 12yo with a Minecraft server at this point
2e53bc No.771154
b1fd71 No.771168
>>771154
Thank you, sibling in Christ. I pray to God that He lets you feel the feels I'm feeling one of these days. assuming He hasn't already, but you know what mean lol
a16305 No.771169
>>771149
Rock Rock On!
https://youtu.be/k9NekxVg4Og?t=110
(Would not let me embed at the precise time point for some reason.)
e4c2a1 No.771190
b9d371 No.771246
>>771123
The Queen is always below the king retard except in England.
19cf9f No.771252
>>771123
The fifth Glorious Mystery, The Coronation.
39fc4e No.771254
>>770039
>tfw believe in God but too unmotivated to start reading the Bible again and to stop sinning
>tfw basically sentenced myself to eternal hellfire
7f2e57 No.771274
>>771254
You must conquer your sins. Sloth has made you lazy in your spiritual life. Lust has made you continue to do the wrong thing. Repent twords God. Don't give up and lose your spiritual warfare with the demons. Don't give into their lies. Talk to your spiritual father, he will help you sin no more.
e04b7e No.771283
>>770864
>a lustful thought can be a mortal sin
i'm pretty sure that's simply not true.
71ca2b No.771297
>>771283
>“You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY’; but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
Get behind me satan or repent.
e04b7e No.771298
>>771123
>men and women are equal
Get out and stay gone until you wash that filth off.
4c8a09 No.771304
>>771274
I'm trying. I was baptized but didn't really care about Christianity for a while, then I got a sudden burst of fervor and did my best to stick to the Bible. Now I'm back to being unmotivated and confused, even though I pray daily.
82e73c No.771310
>>770226
>7 sorrows
Seems like 4/7 of the sorrows in your picture are all Jesus dying. Not saying that's not a big deal but it is one event and the emotional consequences from it.
I know it probably fits in with numerology and other occultist nonsense to have the number be 7 but that shit seems like a stretch to me.
Yeah he died brutally but at least her son came back to life and ascended to heaven thereafter. In that sense she's better off than any mother who's had to experience the loss of their son.
459b1e No.771324
All Protestant churches in my city seem to be "contemporary" and "modern"; there doesn't seem to be any traditional/old-school/conservative Protestant churches here. Feels bad man
>inb4 begome
6c2c85 No.771329
>>771252
Tell me about the glorious mysteries. Educate a brodesdandd.
71ca2b No.771343
>>771324
Specifically Tridentine Latin Mass (aka Roman Rite). Come Home to Rome
fd1015 No.771357
>>770982
>Believing that Mary gave birth to the divinity of Christ.
a16305 No.771386
>>771357
Alex Trebek: This heresy contends the Jesus was divided into "two persons", since Mary supposedly only gave birth to Jesus' human aspect, in contrast to accepted church teaching that Jesus was one person with two natures (human and divine) that Mary gave birth to, though she is not the mother of the divine essence of the trinity.
Contestant; What is Nestorianism?
Alex Trebek: Correct! Take the board!
cbd909 No.771387
>be me
>waiting to tutor some people at uni, sitting in lobby
>a couple of people talking about religion
>all kinds of heresy
>Le "why is this one religion right out of all of them" meme
>"I like pope Francis because he was friends with Obama and said gays are cool"
>"and he's pope so he can say what he wants, if anyone hates he can just tell them to kiss the ring"
>"the old testament is outdated, it talked about slavery and that's wrong so anything it said about gays is wrong too"
>"why would you believe what's in the Bible just because some dude wrote it down thousands of years ago"
>"like, just use common sense and take whatever it says with a grain of salt"
I can't even remember all of the stuff they went on about, it made my blood boil.
fd1015 No.771412
>>771386
Nestorianism believes that Jesus is radically separated into two different persons, not that he is a person with two natures, what I propose here is that Mary has no divine nature in order to originate the divine nature of Jesus (if not, the holy spirit was there for nothing).
b0a4b7 No.771416
>>771357
Jesus Christ is both Man and God, and is the first-born of all creatures, before all creatures.
Mary is still His Mother, satan.
b0a4b7 No.771418
>>771412
>what I propose here is that Mary has no divine nature in order to originate the divine nature of Jesus
and who said Mary has a divine nature?
a16305 No.771489
>>771412
>Nestorianism believes that Jesus is radically separated into two different persons, not that he is a person with two natures,
Which is literally what I said:
>>771386
>This heresy contends the Jesus was divided into "two persons"
Mary didn't originate his divine nature, which is uncreated since eternity, she gave birth to his undivided dual nature by God choosing her womb as the new tabernacle as foreshadowed in the Old Covenant. By saying that you think Mary only gave birth to his human nature, you are effectively dividing him into two persons. He emerged from Mary's womb as two natures perfectly undivided in one being. Jesus was not just a human nature. Jesus was God, period.
129868 No.771977
>>771310
Watch this video, it's a good video for understanding the 7 sorrows.
https://youtu.be/tDSsFn-JaXY
acd0f8 No.771980
>>771386
>>771489
You don't know what you're talking about. Mary did not give birth to the divine nature, that is the heresy of Monophysitism which Nestorius falsely accused the Christians of Constantinople of believing. The divine nature is not physical, it was not in Mary's womb, it did not come out Mary's birth canal. Mary gave birth to the divine person according to His humanity alone.
bcb890 No.771984
>thread devolved into denom wars again
amazing. cannot be fabricated
also
the bad feels:
>a huge amount of churches in my town closed, including mine. So I don't what I am going to do from now on.
>no christian bros on campus, was part of a conservative lutheran group but it dissolved due to many extraordinary factors out of any of our control (didnt fit in there anyway)
>there is a baptist group but its normie and they laughed at me when i asked them if it was the place (where the meeting was) so i left
I hate university so much
the good:
>finally coming out of a spiritual slump
>no longer hating my self all the time
>despite all these things still hopeful for the future
It is a miracle and entirely God's grace.
a16305 No.772018
>>771980
>You don't know what you're talking about. Mary did not give birth to the divine nature
This is literally what I said:
>>771489
>Mary didn't originate his divine nature, which is uncreated since eternity
>Mary gave birth to the divine person…
Yes, that's also what I said:
>>771489
>He emerged from Mary's womb as two natures perfectly undivided in one being.
Then you slide right back into Nestorianism:
>…according to His humanity alone
Once again, you are saying that Mary only gave birth to his human nature; that she is the Mother of Christ, not the Mother of God. The classic Nestorian heresy of Mary being the "Christokos" (a title literally used by Nestorious himself) and not the Theotokos.
94f6ec No.772129
Back to thread maybe:
I live with my feminist sister and she's been upset since yesterday because I told her my honest beliefs that male and female differences are biological, that most women are happiest as dedicated mothers and that the postmodern conception of female liberation is good for few outliers, but most women who give into it regret it later in her life. She says "it's gonna take a while to talk to you normally again, because I am shocked that you believe this".
I've apologized tonight if I said anything that might have been mean to her, although I don't think I have, I even hesitated on taking communion this morning because we shouldn't take communion when we're not reconciled with someone. But really she's the one who is upset with me.
It's hard not to feel guilt in these situations because I've made people upset for wanting to be faithful to God, including when I left my girlfriend, which hurt her terribly. There's a huge part of me that will not let go of the guilt of making someone upset even though what I've done is not sinful and it is theirs to deal with.
It just feels like since I've rejoined the Church, I keep having to upset people. I know Christ said that was supposed to happen, but I don't congratulate myself for that or I'll feel more proud than I have the right to. I'm just socially exhausted and feel like withdrawing from the world even more.
814521 No.772163
>confiscated some Marlborough 20's packs in security check
>don't smoke but don't like giving it away either
>open the packs and throw the cigs on ground and stomp on it in front of smokers
>mfw this makes me happy
c706bf No.772164
>>770060
>who wanted to log in with my order
wtp is this about? You got beast mark on hand or head already? I don't need to log into to Mac D's where I live..
64ecef No.772182
>>772163
>bragging about littering on the internet
acd0f8 No.772186
>>772018
>This is literally what I said
No, what you literally said was "He emerged from Mary's womb as two natures"
>Once again, you are saying that Mary only gave birth to his human nature
Because she did not give birth to the divine nature
>that she is the Mother of Christ, not the Mother of God
Where did I say this? She is the mother of God, but the human nature is called God by virtue of being His own.
c706bf No.772197
>>770642
I remember your drawings from the other thread recently, no way qualified to give the v detailed constructive criticism the other learned anon did but its a nice pic here
>>771252
am i the only one that finds depictions of God the father as cringe? I don't like it, I don't like it at all
7b8090 No.772202
>>772163
>this is somehow being charitable
a16305 No.772225
>>772186
>No, what you literally said was "He emerged from Mary's womb as two natures"
You deliberately left out the last part. And that is what Jesus Christ is: two natures undivided. His human nature in submission to his divine nature. I'm getting the vibe that you are not arguing in good faith, and this "discussion" is derailing the thread anyway as others have observed. We are done. God bless.
cb738f No.772428
>>772182
I am the security tho, I do this all the time when I get cigarettes
>>772202
Yea cause I'm preventing lung cancer
b0a4b7 No.772433
>>772225
They keep trying to split the hypostatic union, and will always fall into heresy. Always.
befc97 No.772444
>too degenerate and broken to ever fit in with real life tradcaths
As a tradsperg, I can safely say that half our community literaly does not give a shit if it sins or not. They'll rant for hours about vat2 and "novus ordo missæ" but will routinely get drunk every weekend and use confession as a get out of jail free. Thats not even to include a girl who is a literal stripper (but she really needs the money!) or a rich guy who owns gambling machines and immoral venues.
As long as you're trying to fix your sins, you're on your way to heaven lad. God cares about effort.
ee8ad3 No.772449
>>772444
The trad internet is a pharisee factory. Too much knowledge and not enough teaching.
3b0c35 No.772512
>>770048
clean as a babies bottom
3b0c35 No.772513
>>770057
surround yourself with less erotic things and quitting will be easier. Imagine the monk who isolates himself from society - he does this because time away from things gives his willpower time to recover from the relentless bruising it gets from everyday exposure.
98e0b0 No.772769
>>770226
>Then we cried to the LORD, the God of our fathers, and the LORD heard our voice and saw our affliction, our toil, and our oppression
<and said "Stop pissing and moaning!"
Deuteronomy 26:7
VERY uncharitable, man.
aca3c0 No.773860
>>772129
Anon, welcome to the "fools for Christ" club. I respect your devotion to God. People will hate us Christians more and more, such is our destiny. Only faith in Christ remains
10f2ed No.773865
>>772769
I lost, I just imagined the god from Monty Python and the Holy Grail peering out of the clouds to say "stop pissing and moaning"
10f2ed No.773866
>>770951
>God shares his glory with no one
welp, I guess we're all going to hell
78e62b No.773890
>>771082
What about 2d lolicon before I was Christian/Baptized?
2dc376 No.773947
>>770039
Sorry, do you mean Christian feels or /christian/ feels
They're two entirely different spheres in the universe
>>770048
lol.
Love your work.
2dc376 No.773949
>I have seen some shi-
The Mary-idolisation in this thread is thoroughly toxic
I really didn't think /christian/ could plumb new levels. But, you've managed.
>>772769
Ignore him. Just look at the source.
8f8769 No.775065
>>771357
>Believing that the divinity of Christ is separable of His Godhood
>Not believing that Christ is fully God and fully human
>Not believing that Christ was so in the womb and that he came out of these as fully God and fully human
abcd4e No.775087
>>773949
The disrespect you show twords Christ's mother is toxic. I'll pray for you.
dbbf27 No.775339
Why can't I trust anyone ? My friends don't feel like my friends anymore, cousins means nothing now. My parents want me to be a npc working till death, the only person I love is my brother but he has moved away for studies.
aca3c0 No.778950
>>770039
>bad feels
I lust for one thing, not in a sexual way. For someone outside my family - who actually cares - to give me a great hug, People give hugs all the time, but it's not because they care, they do it just as a gesture. I feel effeminate for saying this, but I often cry, sometimes I lay on the floor crying, sometimes on my bed. Lusting for some caring intimacy - at least someone giving me a hug. Without God's love I would have probably killed myself
>good feels
at least God loves me, If I ever come to heaven I will hug Jesus so hard as he can give me care.
fd1015 No.778984
>>775065
>Jesus was already God before he was conceived by Mary.
>thanks to Mary, Jesus got his "fully human" part.
>so, Mary is the mother of God, even though she has only originated the "completely human" part of Jesus.
5fceac No.779003
Been kinda on the fence about moving away from the catholic church recently, and the more I research the protestant arguments the more I find myself agreeing with them. I know you guys will probably say everything you can to convince me to stay catholic, but there's just so many things that point to the catholic church being wrong in my eyes. The discussions have been had a million times already and I've been in just about every one I've seen, so instead of looking for an argument about why I should be catholic or not I just ask that you please pray that I can find the truth, as I have been and will be continuing to do.
aca3c0 No.779066
>>775339
I feel you anon, trusting is hard. But trust your family - remember the commandement "honour thy father and thy mother". And move to your bro if you can anon.
663344 No.779071
>>778984
You don't give birth to "natures". You give birth to a person. The person in question is god, so Mary is the mother of God. To be the mother of God you don't have to create divinity. You have to be retarded beyond measure to think that, and brainwashed by your local pastor Jim.
663344 No.779073
>>778984
Also, since Mary is ultimately caused by God, following your retarded line of thought we can't affirm that Mary originated anything, so I guess there does not exist a single mother or father in the world.
663344 No.779076
>>779003
>in my eyes
I redirect you to what the Church, since the first centuries, have said to the countless heresies that were right in the eyes of many people.
8f8769 No.779086
>>778984
>Christ's divinity wasn't present in the womb
>Christ got His divinity right after birth
5fceac No.779092
>>779076
You realize this is a question that *I* have, right, so *I* am the one who needs to see things properly, whatever proper may be. Saying "just look at what the Church has said" doesn't help me much considering I'm doubting the very validity of that church.
63636e No.779174
My prayers have been answered and my lukewarm fiancée agreed to finally pray the rosary with me.
>feelsgreatman.png
911945 No.779182
>23 year old autistic ugly virgin
>never had a GF or had a real relationship with a woman
>women hate me and make me feel bad
>Live on my own (own my own home) and suffer from incredible bouts of loneliness
>This loneliness directly causes me to overeat, lust, do PMO, and have anger towards women
>can't get out of the deep hole
<gonna try and use Lent to lose weight and nofap even though I'm a Lutheran who does not believe in salvation by faith
<I just want to stop sinning but this loneliness forces it
<I just want to love a woman and treat her so well and love her constantly.
Not sure what to do anymore but tired of being like this.
911945 No.779183
>>779182
le oof. should read: "… who does not believe in salvation by works."
63636e No.779184
>>779182
I know this may sound like heresy to you, but you should pray the rosary /ourLady/ gave us for our times of trouble like this. The way I see it, you have nothing to lose but your vice and loneliness by praying the rosary. Jesus loves you, and so does His mother, anon. Give it a try.
0285a2 No.779203
>>779182
been there done that. sounds like you are making an idol of women or the femine figure
d95586 No.779223
>>779182
>[early 20s] virgin
>never had a GF or had a real relationship with a woman
>suffer from incredible bouts of loneliness
Same here friend. I've done a better job of coping with the loneliness lately, but it can be real hard sometimes.
>women hate me and make me feel bad
It's in their nature. Don't let them fool you - they're more choosy about looks than men. Even the ugly ones usually expect no less than a 6/10.
>Live on my own (own my own home)
That's pretty good for your age lad. That's a huge advantage over the majority of 20-something men who live in an apartment or with their parents.
>This loneliness directly causes me to overeat, lust, do PMO, and have anger towards women
Channel that anger into something more productive instead, such as exercise or writing.
>I just want to love a woman and treat her so well and love her constantly
I know that feel brother. Don't waste another second thinking about women, or it'll only continue to eat you up inside.
ac0675 No.779243
>>778984
One's mother is the person who carries one in the womb for 9 months before giving birth to one.
The person who carried out this action for Jesus is Mary.
Thus Mary is the mother of Jesus.
Jesus is God.
Thus Mary is the mother of God.
Obviously, Mary didn't create Jesus. But no mother does create her child. "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you" implies both that the actual creation of a human soul takes place before conception, and also that the formation of the body in the womb is guided by God rather than the mother. If Mary isn't Jesus' mother because she didn't create Him, then neither is your own mother really your mother because she didn't really create you either. In fact, by this logic, mothers in general don't exist, which is an absurd claim to make in light of all the Bible passages that mention mothers.
f15505 No.779253
>>770642
It may or may not win, but your drawing brought me peace today. You have a talent and that speaks for itself.
2f2321 No.779265
I am a Christian Obedient, one who waits for direction and carries on doing the right thing when the situation arises and leaves everything else up to God. I struggle mostly with the turn the other cheek and defending oneself from those who take advantage. My disgust for commies doing bad under the guise of good to seize power makes my blood boil. I sometimes pray never to be tested in front of them, for I should surely fail. I have a hard time with that.
93296c No.784137
>>770453
>He also has blue eyes and I have brown eyes and I have an inferiority complex
Same
0ad7e5 No.784141
This is the worst week of my life, I took my first communion last Sunday but I just had destroy a perfectly good week and masturbate. I couldn't sleep two consecutive nights because of Lust, and it seems I'm missing this one too.
63636e No.784149
>>784141
Pray the rosary, bud. It helps kill those lustful urges and helps you stay close to Jesus. Than go to confession when you are ready.
1d484a No.784156
>>784141
Delete any lustful images from your computer / phone. Have an icon.
3c7d2c No.784654
>>771149
where did thee meet thy gf o_o
63636e No.784660
>>784654
We met each other while volunteering at a Catholic charity. You'd be amazed what kind of conversations you can have while volunteering with someone in the name of Jesus Christ. After hitting it off, I asked her out on a date to have a stroll in the park and the rest is history.
My advice for my brothers:
Go out and do some charity work. Volunteer at a soup kitchen or a mission. Join a rosary prayer group or a bible study group. Volunteer your time at the church and as you grow and transform in God's presence, He will put a righteous woman in your path. If a woman is donating her time, it most likely she is devout and wife material as well. Also pray the rosary daily. You become a better person by doing it and meditating on the mysteries every day
Maybe I'm just lucky to be in a NO parish that isn't pozzed. Maybe I'm secretly a chad and I don't even know it. Maybe God just wanted to bless me with the responsibility of taking care of a woman. Maybe all those times I prayed the rosary, God was pleased with me. All I know is I have Him to thank for everything He has done for me, an unworthy sinner. If a wretch like me can do it, I know that the sinners on this board can do it aswell.
As Jesus says:
>With God, All things are possible
God love you, brother.
e30e23 No.785998
>tfw cashier recognizes you
230a88 No.786021
Boohoo I'm an outcast
Waaaah I don't have a gf
(Im actually an outcast though, and I don't have a gf)
a16305 No.786038
dd018a No.786042
>>786021
Oh, so you don't care? You're mgtow? RIP your bloodline
31fa51 No.787784
>>787783
27 bloomer should be betrothed to a woman he dearly loves and abstaining sexually until marriage
c75844 No.787986
>>787783
still left the SS chant (erika) in there, so in the end a very horrible meme.
Can't wait what sort of feel/frog meme the chans will come up with next year. Boy o boy this place is such an endless stream of original content.
63636e No.787996
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>787986
>t. doesn't like German love songs because muh /pol/
Just because it's german doesn't mean it is automatically /pol/ish, friend.
c0d7f2 No.788633
>>787986
>Erika
>SS chant
JIDF rose early today
8b8cb0 No.788952
>>773890
Baptism washes away all sins so you don't need to confess it, pls never do it again though for your sake
74c322 No.789000
>still little idea whether or not I have an angel or it's just base waifuism
>still no idea what is and isn't a sin regarding the above
>anxious about what Heaven might be like without even knowing whether I'll really be allowed there
>been studying and praying for clarity for a long time without much response
More fear and trembling for me, I guess.
On the plus side,
>27 days nofap
>Listened to a rendition of Libera me, domine and nearly cried at its beauty
5b5714 No.789038
a16305 No.789067
>Got wrapped up with Old Calendarists for about two years.
>After the latest shenigans, pull my head out of my rear and do the research that I should've done a long time ago (including asking others about it on this board.)
>Realize that Old Calendarism is a sad schismatic joke, and that I've got to get back with the canonical Orthodox church.
>People at my parish are genuinely good people who I've come to view as family, so I want to at least give trying to win them back away from Old Calandarism the old college try, rather than just ghost on them.
>Tried the softball approach this past Sunday with the regular reader (i.e. tossed out the possibility of going with a canonical organization, since we currently have no priest, and the so-called ROCOR remnant/ROCA (not real ROCOR) can't help us, and the GOC pretty much told us we can fall off a cliff for all they care.
>Reader says they wouldn't go with mainstream ROCOR because of supposed KGB connections to the Moscow Patriarch
>I ask about other reputable Patriachs
>Reader just lists off more Old Calendarist splinter groups, like the Matthewites and a branch of GOC that was formerly HOCNA....
>Tells me to just "keep the faith" and something good will happen.
>Realize that at least the reader is "Ride or Die" with the Old Calandarists, and I'm just going to have to do the "rip of the band-aid" approach next Sunday (i.e. just basically tell them straight up that I no longer believe in Old Calendarism, brief reasons why, and that I won't be attending the church anymore.)
>Feel terrible about the fact that I'm going to be hurting them.
>Feel like Judas prepping himself to kiss Jesus for 30 pieces of silver, in spite of the fact that in terms of logic and theology and loyalty to the truth of Christ, I'm trying to do the opposite.
>Not looking forward to this coming Sunday.
>>789062
>I feel drained by working on my future, looking for the job, etc.
>My lent is not going as well as I wanted it to. I cannot even read books on the side of studying because my mind is completely drained.
>Feels really bad. I just want to lay down and sleep for few days. Unfortunately I cannot afford that. I wish I did not have to keep the struggle up. These days it is difficult for me to find motivation to get up in the morning. Reading books and sport kept me going, now I haveno energy to do the first and I have to temporarily limit the second.
>Wojack_hug.jpg
I know them feels bro.
d94486 No.789068
I'm learning more about the Lord and His teachings every day. Life is great. O felice, tu anima mia!
588ad5 No.789073
>>770039
Rewatched "Silence". The feels are overwhelming.
016ad4 No.790219
> tfw just got a 10/10 gf who is very faithful and outgoing and adorable and every day I'm worried I'm not good enough for her but then I remember God put her into my life because I did what he told me and I'm reminded that I just have to keep doing that and keeping him at the center of this relationship and I needn't worry of the outcome
> itsanabstractkindoffeel.jpg
7af591 No.790252
>>790219
Unfortunately I can't relate to this, but good for you buddy. Hope things work out.
795e35 No.790263
>>789073
Thanks anon, served as a recommendation, maybe we ought have a proper movies thread?
016ad4 No.790277
>>790252
Thank you anon. Everything just seems to work out better when I stop trying to control my future, which is the feel I was trying to convey.
4c6894 No.790286
me im about on the verge of deciding to kill myself
ec19c8 No.790288
>>790286
Don't do it. It isn't worth the eternal hellfire.
016ad4 No.790290
>>790286
Whatever you're going through is not going to be any easier on the other side. If your environment is crushing you, then find a way to leave if at least for a few days. A retreat does wonders for the soul.
a16305 No.790334
45b05a No.791511
99e708 No.791513
>>791448
>>791511
Loneliness might be your cross to bear brothers. Remember you are loved infinitely and known infinitely by God. Attach yourself to him and each time you feel lonely pray the rosary or just pray! : )