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The vid is blocked on my side.

In any case, he's not choosing a new religion. Just a heresy. He shouldn't be treated as special… nor should Islam.

>female episcopal priest

>female priest

Off to a good start. You know she's legit if she's a female priest.

>defrocked because she converted to Islam

She didn't leave the priesthoood despite converting to Islam, so you know she's legit, high IQ, a deep theologian.

>but she calls herself a Christian and Muslim

Shalom. Thanks for the chuckle OP

>>758673

>elf a Christian and Muslim

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>Shalom. Thanks for the chuckle OP

lol.. it's a she? I couldn't watch the vid. I thought it was some Indian guy in a headdress, by that thumbnail.

>>758682

>What astounds me is there are actual priests and higher-ups in a church organization that do not take the Word of God seriously. How do these kinds of people end up in that position? This is part of the reason why I refuse to go to church these days, it's really a case of the blind leading the blind.

Definitely the case when it comes to those who enter academic studies. Their introduced to a lot of higher criticism that casts doubt on scripture… and they are weak to begin with. Only the fundie evangelical schools and orthodox seminaries maintain any sort of traditional belief in academic circles (and even then, there's a frightening strain of Orthodox who are really faggots that just want an exotic form of Anglicism).

>>758689

>You should watch the vid, it's not as bad as you think. She makes every priest(ess) look like a joke, that's why I refuse to take any Christian organization seriously. Our relationship is directly with Jesus Christ and by reading His Word.

I would, but it was somehow blocked for me. Not sure why. Been using VPNs and probably need to clear cache.

>>758690

I still have a lot to learn, so could you elaborate on all of that?

>Definitely the case when it comes to those who enter academic studies. Their introduced to a lot of higher criticism that casts doubt on scripture… and they are weak to begin with.

Are certain Churches against pursuing higher education or against specific fields? Is this evolution controversy or just about modernism in colleges nowadays?

>Only the fundie evangelical schools and orthodox seminaries maintain any sort of traditional belief in academic circles

What are the traditional beliefs?

>frightening strain of Orthodox… that just want an exotic form of Anglicism

Anglicism broke off because the King of England wanted a divorce, right? How are they similar to Orthodox? Are they still mostly like the Catholic Church except for the divorce thing?

>>758695

>I still have a lot to learn, so could you elaborate on all of that?

As a rule, academic circles simply don't believe the scriptures are the Word of God. Once you keep that in mind, everything coming out of their mouths is easier to understand. They question authorship, dates, etc.. all to validate their previous lack of belief. And they cast enough doubts in younger students that these students have to be exceptionally prepared to counter it. Most of them aren't, and often become worse than even their teachers as they finally prepare for minsitry. Each successive generation is worse than the former.

A lot of this Higher Critical approach started in the mid 1800s, but even those guys nowadays are considered "conservative". A lot of scholars who caused controversy back then are used as standards now (for example, think of Strong's Concordance.. James Strong was hardly conservative, but he's treated like that now. Or Westcott and Hort, who gave rise to stranger, New Testament Greek texts that were once in the minority.. but now considered "standard" now). So yeah, each academic generation becomes worse than the former, where they're now writing 5 volume sets on Gender and Queer Studies in the Old Testament (seriously.. I think Oxford or Cambridge has a huge library set like this).

>>758695

>Anglicism broke off because the King of England wanted a divorce, right? How are they similar to Orthodox? Are they still mostly like the Catholic Church except for the divorce thing?

I meant that some Orthodox are liberal like Anglicanism, sadly. It's kind of like Vatican II movement which has taken over a lot of Roman Catholicism.

>>758701

My bad, are we talking about seminary, or secular universities?

>>758706

Often both. Not all, like I said. Plenty of conservative Evangelical seminaries left.. and it seems the Orthodox tend to be conservative. It's just some of the teachers/priests who come from them. In their case, it's more of an individual problem. Not a systemic problem, like mainline Protestant schools (but those are the bigger, well funded schools. Usually associated with a well known university. Like Princeton Theological Seminary, Duke, Harvard, etc).

>>758682

>actual priests and higher-ups in a church organization that do not take the Word of God seriously

They aren't actual priests or Christians in the first place. It shouldn't be a surprise that organizations of rebellion are not in Christ.