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Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over [g]all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

I just made a thread about the Aramaic Targums and the ancient understanding that the "Angel of the Lord" in the OT (not an Angel, but THE Angel) wasn't seen as a mere angel, but addressed as God (such as the burning bush to Moses or when this Angel gives the Torah to Moses). The Church teaches this is the preincarnate Son. The "Word" of the Lord.

Angel, btw, also means "messenger".. in this instance, the Angel of the Lord is the Mouthpiece of God.. and therefore God. "In the beginning was the Word, and Word was with God and the Word was God." John 1:1

Much like your own words represent YOU, if you think about it.

>>748975

I think the dietary laws were specific to the region because of a parasite or disease. Genesis 9:3 implies in general you can eat anything.

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>>748984

Thanks bros.

>>748975

>fulfill the law and not to destroy it

And He fulfilled it. Hence why we dont need them anymore

>>749036

does that mean I could uncover the nakedness of my mother and sister and not be punished for it? Sweet!

>>748984

It should be noted that all of the forbidden foods are now proven to have legitimate medical reasons for exclusion, particularly things like pigs, rats, and slugs, all of which would absolutely risk poisoning or infecting people

>>749070

Nice

>>748975

>Is there any mention of The Holy Trinity in the Old Testament

Isaiah is very trinitarian. Look especially for stuff suggesting the Spirit of the Lord being a, well, being; for example "But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit" in 63:10. If the Holy Spirit isn't a person, how can he be vexed?

>>748975

Christ referenced Psalm 110:1 for himself

>The Lord says to my Lord:“Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.”

>>749079

Also Isaiah 48:15-17 is extremely trinitarian

>>749036

Explain further. What parts exactly don't we need? This sounds like a slippery slope to nihilism.

>>749244

maybe he means we don't need the law as a means of salvation, as in salvation by works, or as chains of bondage.

"All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not."

>Is there any mention of The Holy Trinity in the Old Testament?

>mention in the first chapter of the first book of the whole Bible

>>748975

Genesis 8 gives us the best depiction of the Trinity in the OT:

And the Lord appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre, as he sat at the door of his tent in the heat of the day. He lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, THREE MEN stood in front of him.

5 while I fetch a morsel of bread, that you may refresh yourselves, and after that you may pass on—since you have come to your servant.” So THEY said, “Do as you have said.

9 THEY said to him, “Where is Sarah your wife?” And he said, “She is in the tent.” 10 THE LORD said, “I will surely return

This whole passage embodies God in a “3 as one.” narritive. The 3 figures represent each person of the godhead, but altogether are “The Lord.” It constantly defines the Lord as “he” (singular) and “they” (pluaral). God is 3 persons but one God.

The trinity is also mentioned in Genesis 1 “let us make man in OUR image” (“our” being of the 3 members of the trinity).

We see the Holy Spirit many times in the Davidic psalms, e.g. psalm 51 “take not your holy spirit from me.” David had the spirit. Jesus is also mentioned in the psalms “the stone that the builders rejected became the cornerstone.” This cornersrone (Christ, the cornerstone of the Christian faith) is also seen in Daniel 9 as smashing all of paganism to dust (as we saw happen in history). But Jesus is most wondefully illustrated in Isaiah 53, the auffering servant who will take man’s sins upon himself.

As far as the dietary law, things were first made unclean by God in Leviticus after many many years, indicating this was not always the case. This diet kept the Israelites holy as a temporary check until the messiah came, so as to be an example of Christians in their assignment to keep themselves on a healthy spiritual diet (the fruit of the word).