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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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a99ce5  No.746402

Around 200 C.E. Tertullian of Carthage reported the calculation that the 14th of Nisan (the day of the crucifixion according to the Gospel of John) in the year Jesus diedc was equivalent to March 25 in the Roman (solar) calendar.

March 25 is, of course, nine months before December 25; it was later recognized as the Feast of the Annunciation—the commemoration of Jesus’ conception.

Thus, Jesus was believed to have been conceived and crucified on the same day of the year. Exactly nine months later, Jesus was born, on December 25.

This idea appears in an anonymous Christian treatise titled On Solstices and Equinoxes, which appears to come from fourth-century North Africa.

The treatise states: “Therefore our Lord was conceived on the eighth of the kalends of April in the month of March [March 25], which is the day of the passion of the Lord and of his conception. For on that day he was conceived on the same he suffered.”

Based on this, the treatise dates Jesus’ birth to the winter solstice.

Augustine, too, was familiar with this association. In On the Trinity (c. 399–419) he writes:

“For he [Jesus] is believed to have been conceived on the 25th of March, upon which day also he suffered; so the womb of the Virgin, in which he was conceived, where no one of mortals was begotten, corresponds to the new grave in which he was buried, wherein was never man laid, neither before him nor since.

But he was born, according to tradition, upon December the 25th.”

The notion that creation and redemption should occur at the same time of year is also reflected in ancient Jewish tradition, recorded in the Talmud.

The Babylonian Talmud preserves a dispute between two early-second-century C.E. rabbis who share this view, but disagree on the date:

Rabbi Eliezer states: “In Nisan the world was created; in Nisan the Patriarchs were born; on Passover Isaac was born … and in Nisan they [our ancestors] will be redeemed in time to come.” (The other rabbi, Joshua, dates these same events to the following month, Tishri.)

Thus, the dates of Christmas and Epiphany may well have resulted from Christian theological reflection on such chronologies: Jesus would have been conceived on the same date he died, and born nine months later

(I'd like to mention that we have Christians in two parts of the world calculating Jesus’ birth on the basis that his death and conception took place on the same day (March 25 or April 6) and coming up with two close but different results (December 25 and January 6).)

a99ce5  No.746405

Happy Birthday, Jesus


ab25a0  No.746424

>C.E.

What makes it common? What event of significance happened then?


40b8b8  No.746430

>>746424

something something political correctness and post enlightenment terminology


9eda1f  No.746553


2e7d60  No.746566

>>746430

Isn't it even more offensive to impose that the European system is the system for the entire world to follow? Just call it what it it is: year's after Christ's birth.


6643e2  No.746665

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Happy birthday, Jesus!


1a57ea  No.746669

Can anyone give me a brief redpill on Arius?


71a045  No.746670

>>746566

Year of our Lord.


c99874  No.746747

>>746669

Founder of the doctrine that Christ wasn't God, that He was just the most powerful and perfect creature that God ever made even before the angels, but still a creature. Something that is clearly rejected by the NT (which repeatedly says we can worship Jesus, and the 1st commandment says we can only worship God thus Jesus is God) and then completely destroyed by the gospel of John which the Arians went full mental gymnastics but still didn't work. Also Isaiah says Jesus would be know as Mighty God etc…

So the most of the Bishops of the Church took the bait going against the Tradition and Scripture as well the the trusted Bishop of the emperor and Constantine himself took the bait as well.

To settle the shit the emperor summoned a council (the council of Nicea) where St. Nicholas punched Arius in the face and where the nicene creed was redacted thus saying the Arius was an heretic.

Most of the people faithful to Arius (aka most "Christians") rejected the council and some years later another council (the council of Constantinople) reaffirmed the teachings of Nicaea and expanded the section of the creed about the Holy Spirit. This council was the nail in the coffin for Arianism which survived in Germanic lands since the remaining heretics ran off to there (in the 9th century the Church converted them it was really easy tbh).

Also I'd like to add that Arius died while taking a shit the day before he was about to receive the Eucharisty because the emperor said he would kill the Bishop if he didn't do it.




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