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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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07ed0a  No.745248

Baptists are not Protestants, we are Christians. Protestantism is a spin off of Roman Catholicism and they even baptize their babies and worship idols. We do none of that therefore we are not Protestants. Seriously sick and tired of you guys saying we are Protestants. No we are not we are Christians. We were established by Jesus Christ himself and suffered sever persecution from the Roman Catholic Church and Protestants for centuries for being Christians.

178f2e  No.745249

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If you guys were around from the beginning then how come you're never mentioned in the histories of the Church?


07ed0a  No.745252

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>>745249

We actually are but of course Roman Catholic idol worshipers distorted a lot of what we believe, as they always do because they persecuted us.


178f2e  No.745253

>>745252

I don't remember reading about you guys. Seems strange that the bishops didn't write any treatises condemning the Baptists like they did every other heretical group. I mean we find lengthy works condemning gnostics, manichaeans, marcianists, etc. but no mention of Baptists. Were these works lost? Do you have proof?


a916e6  No.745258

>>745252

>Roman Catholic idol worshipers distorted a lot of what we believe

Proofs?


1a7bd2  No.745262

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Ok, but how do you come to the terms with, that you tend to follow the reformers down the path of Sola scriptura, Sola fidel, etc, the sola. Which wasn't even a concept in the church prior to the reformation in the west, or the East. You claim you're not from the reformers but all of your theology just tends to line up with them, or parts to be more precise. Does it just seem like that? You're just another break from Martin Luther's reformation. Add to that, how do you come to the terms that the church fathers, the same people of the same faith gave us the Creed, gave us the councils to essentially codify the doctrines. And the bible. Cause sorry there was no fixed bible originally when the church was still setting up. Admit dude, your church is another splinter group from the reformation. Basically what >>745251

was, saying, originally reformation happens, the break away groups start to pop up, the spin off after spin off group appears to the point where. It has nothing in common with what the, Church fathers were teaching. This is black Israelite tier cases. Or British Israelism tier. And as for Martyrs, there were martyrs, but i think you're mistaken. The church set up after all that blooshed had nothing to do with ,Baptist, that just came out of the reformation. But Martyrs like saint James, etc. Just think man, those same men from those very same councils are the ones who gave us the same bible we have today, who compiled it and codified it. But somehow they're in heresy, but not until Thousands of years later post reformation ahhhh, now the baptist church is the one true church. See where this going? For me anyway i'm not about to go and sample all the tutty fruity flavors of protestant sects. Been there with my *Non denomination Church*. Or people who take on bare bones Christian theology stripped of it's rich and articulate history. While at the same time holding the reformers theology. And that's just from a layman's perspective so far. Really history is against the protestant sects, the reformers. The only ones who have anything close that resembles something of Christian teaching would be the, Lutherans they do retain some of the sacraments, but again parts of missing, it's watered down.


1daf39  No.745264

Forget Baptists. What I don't get is how the well educated reformed theology dudes, all those super intellectual calvinist types justify their protestant casuistry. How the hell do you justify following what is essentially a totally different religion than the church Jesus Christ founded in the first century AD?


f92645  No.745265

>>745264

Calvinism is the only way sola fidei allows for bad people to go to hell.

Think about it

>Be Protestant

>Catholic church lays off of indulgences and lets common language Bibles be printed

>Have to justify why those who have faith in Jesus through Catholicism (and Orthodoxy to a lesser extent) won't go to heaven otherwise there is no reason (then) to return to the apostolic church

>invent double predestination to allow these people to go to hell

>sell this to people who believe total depravity and faith alone


049c35  No.745267

>>745262

It's partly because of this that I didn't consider protestant churches viable when I was converting to the faith from the standpoint of a non-believer studying Christianity.


8265f7  No.745272

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>>745252

>Greek Catholic

>Infant Communion

>Non-Fellowship Declared


ecc1b0  No.745277

>>745252

>We actually are but of course Roman Catholic idol worshipers distorted a lot of what we believe

What about the Eastern Orthodox?

Or the Oriental Orthodox?

Or the Church of the East?

Or muslims?

Surely some religious community should write articles condemning pastor Jimius being an annoying, "soul-winning" faggot with theology no one has ever heard of.


47b2c5  No.745290

WE WUZ KRISCHUNZ N SHEEIT


1389ce  No.745307

>We don't go by tradition, we go by the Bible (that tradition gave us)


9fc41e  No.745318

>>745252

>Baptists came from the Paulicians

That's like saying the reformed crowd are descended from Augustinian monks.


a1d0be  No.745326

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>>745248

>>745252

>Somewhere, someone unironically believes this


9d8894  No.745332

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1b5325  No.745345

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Leviticus and Deuteronomy OP

>b-but other anons say that we don't need to follow Mosaic Law

So does give you a free pass to sin and fornicate with your family? No, it doesn't.

Does it give you a free pass to murder? No, it doesn't. Ergo, sodomites are still evil and their blood-guiltiness shall be upon them.


1b5325  No.745346

>>745345

Also, stay away from Reddit. It is a literal (((leftist))) liberal hell hole.


4b13be  No.745358

>>745346

1 Corinthians 15:33: Bad company corrupts good character

8ch is a cesspool too, its best to stay away from boards like /tv/ and /b/. No matter how strong your willpower is, the degeneracy still eats at you.


2db36c  No.745417

>>745251

Say one criticism of Catholics and get banned, while this guy stays

Ok


178f2e  No.745424

>>745417

Baptists

>papists are idol worshiping satanists who aren't even christian.

Everyone else

>baptists are annoying retards and here's why…


2db36c  No.745452

>>745424

I'm not advocating for the rhetoric on either side, I'm only pointing out the bias in moderation


608f63  No.745464

>>745248

This is we wuzzin'. Perhaps there have been independent sects within Christianity throughout history that have emerged and have been inspired by each other, but there is little evidence to support the claim it isn't just an outgrowth of Protestantism. Even then, Protestantism is just a protest against Catholicism so the term still fits.


7b4f74  No.747063

>>745452

From the rules:

>Interdenominational debates are allowed on this board, but they are still governed by charity. Insinuations must be accompanied by explanation and/or primary resources.


af97aa  No.747067

>>745252

>Trail of lulz


bf4745  No.747072

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>>745252

10/10, had a good laugh.


c02990  No.747284

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Ah yes, WE WUZ APOSTLES AND SHIET




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