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>>743657

Faith. Yes, it's that simple. Faith.

>being accused of believing fairy tales

If you care more about what people think than what God thinks, then you're doin' it wrong.

>>743659

But there are so many faiths. There is Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Zoroastrianism, Paganism, Mormonism, Shintoism, Taoism, Jainism, the Baha'i Faith, Rastafari, Shamanism, Folk Religion, etc. etc. Do I just blindly choose which one I put my faith in?

>>743659

You think you are but you're really not helping.

>>743661

The God of the Bible is the only one corroborated by history and science.

>>743657

The number one main claim of Christianity is the story of Jesus. Everything else comes second. There are Christians who believe the entire Bible is literal and Christians who believe that the Patriarchs and Moses is an allegory; the main thing that matters is Christ. There is plentiful historical evidence that Jesus really walked the Earth, was really baptized, was really crucified, and really rose again. Only the most hardcore atheist denies all this evidence, most just deny his resurrection.

>>743661

Isnt it amazing how the peoole who think there is no reason to believe in Christianity always admit to knowing nothing whatsoever about any religion?

>>743657

apart from knowing that Christianity is not contrary to reason, illumination of the nous

>>743670

This. Plus all the prophecies in the bible that have turned out true.

Because the God of the bible revealed itself to mankind and its compatible with history, that is, the stuff that happened in the bible happened in history, like Abraham, David, the time of the prophets, the public life of Jesus Christ can be directly supported by historical evidence.

While in other religioms like Hinduism and related shit it's all based on unhistorical myths just like the Greek pagans used to believe.

And of course the ultimate proof is that writings from some random Hebrews written between 1500-50BC predicted exactly how one man was about to show up, what he would do and exactly how and why he would die.

And isn't it surprising that it actually happened?

>>744089

>1500-500BC

Fixed

>>743657

>>743661

Some people simply choose what they want to believe, though this is obviously not a wise thing to do. You should base your decision on evidence, and the evidence does point to the God of the Bible.

Besides this >>743670 and this >>743784, here are a few pieces of evidence that I find strongly supportive of the God of the Bible:

1) Various archeological findings support events from the Old Testament, such as Noah's Ark, huge amounts of sulfur at the locations of Sodom & Gomorrah, chariot wheels at the bottom of the Red Sea (from the splitting of the sea in Exodus), and more. Search for Ron Wyatt for more on this.

2) It's generally accepted as truth among historians (including atheist ones) that Jesus did live on Earth, and that the original New Testament manuscripts are from the first century AD. With this in mind, take a look at 'The Minimal Facts Argument'.

3) It's pretty easy to see that the world is in bad shape (morally). The Bible gives an explanation for this: Satan is the god of this world. The ruling elite (the top bankers, investors, and corporations) have their tentacles everywhere, from governments to Hollywood, and they use their power to promote/glorify sin, and to subvert/destroy Christianity. From the glorification of sin throughout pop-culture, to state-sponsored churches (and thus state-affected doctrine), to infiltration and promotion of sin from within churches (e.g. homosexuality and even convincing people to take the Mark of the Beast when the time comes), to literally erecting the Arch of Baal in NYC (a false god from the Old Testament). Their war against Jesus becomes more and more apparent as time goes on. When I'm reminded of the state of the world, I'm often also reminded of the following quote:

"I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."

- C.S. Lewis

I hope this will be of help to you in your search for the truth, OP.

Then there is no room for created matter, that leads to an uncreated universe. As in, creation becomes a necessity of such god.

Origen, a heretic, and Plato got to this conclusion because their Monad was too far from man.

>>743661

Because everything else but the personal Logos of Orthodox Christianity leads to absurd conclusions. Logos is not an abstraction of Logic, like even Islam claims it is, it must be a man. Our God, Jesus Christ.

Is this line of thinking "blind faith"? No, it's called coherence theory. The opposite, correspondence theory which is what is more common, is blind faith.

>>743657

>How can you prove revelation without being accused of believing fairy tales

Simply. I do not need to prove it I have faith.

>>748952

That's great for tradcats but a poor way to convert. We live in a secular world, it is necessary to keep that in mind when proselytizing.

We can only preach the Word. Those who are touched by the Spirit of God will have the truth revealed to them. The rest can't hear, no matter what is said.

“A sower went out to sow. And as he sowed, some seed fell on the path, and birds came and ate it up. Some fell on rocky ground, where it had little soil. It sprang up at once because the soil was not deep, and when the sun rose it was scorched, and it withered for lack of roots. Some seed fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up and choked it. But some seed fell on rich soil, and produced fruit, a hundred or sixty or thirtyfold. Whoever has ears ought to hear.”

>>743657

>How can you prove revelation without being accused of believing fairy tales?

If you're referring to accusations from the part of Atheists, then it's impossible, simply because simply suggesting the idea of God to them is like conjuring additional fictional characters for a story. Look at textual criticism at schools, did they reduced their atheistic biases on the bible and prophecies on Christ once the Dead Sea Scrolls were found/republished? No, in fact, the professors double down by insisting that Christianity is more false than ever, by finding holes and filling them up with their secular messages.