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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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f8c8e3  No.739351

I’m morally driven to want to practice Christianity, but I don’t believe in the supernatural aspect, but that’s the only logical reason to be morally drawn to it. I’m left feeling in a manner that it only makes sense to feel as a Christian but do not take joy or participate as shamelessly in the materialist nihilist world as I should, not believing

2cb22b  No.739356

There's lots of evidence for supernatural phenomena. Mainstream science just ignores it because it doesn't fit their (completely unproven) naturalist presuppositions.

>out of body experiences

>near death experiences

>ufo's (they aren't actually aliens)

>remote viewing

>etc


9bab88  No.739363

>>739351

I feel ya, OP. I would like to believe in the Christian god, but it seems pretty obvious that there is no supernatural being that interferes in the affairs of the human race.


02b9e8  No.739381

>supernatural aspect

investigate flatearth.


591ebe  No.739385

>>739381

We demonstrate the curve of the earth in middle school


02b9e8  No.739386

>>739385

lol when you're young and foolish


fe8cfd  No.739390

No, the catechumenate road is long and arduous.

People come to the Faith from many different reasons. It's important that you take the hollistic worldview when you mature, but do not rush.

For example, I was drawn to Orthodoxy because of the chants. Now I continue to be in absolute awe at them, but I also believe in the Theology, the asceticism, the iconography, etc. Those are no longer the sole reason why I consider myself Christian. But usually when you find ease at one of the aspects of it, like Absolute Morality with you or music with me, you tend to also like the others because they all share the same assumptions manifested in different ways.


591ebe  No.739508

>>739386

Satellites wouldn't work with a flat earth, pretty much all of orbital industry supposes a globe earth and couldn't function without it.


02b9e8  No.739513

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>>739385

btw, I guess the Holocaust is factually accurate because we learned about that in the 5th grade.

>>739508

Satellites don't exist, or in other words, they never got launched into space. They're just for show. All global communication is done via radio towers.

Of course you'll find information that supports your own claims because you are only searching from sources that cater to your own claims. Just be a little open minded and read up on something that has a different point of view.

Listen, I'm not saying debunk me on flat earth, I'm just merely asking you to investigate it for yourself. This is the equivalent of someone saying the information of the Holocaust was faked, and then people brining up information from the Holocaust museum to debunk the claims. You're going to have to go outside of your 'safe zone' to gain some sort of understanding of your surroundings.


e250f9  No.739516

>>739513

You can track satellites and then view them from the ground moron.


02b9e8  No.739521

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>>739516

>See's a blinking light, it has to be what I am told because I'm a good goy

>"Moron"

Boy, I bet you watch a lot of CNN with that sort of retort, buddy.

You'll indulge yourself in mindless bullshit like Star Wars or some other scifi crap, but when someone says the Earth is flat it's an immediate shit flinging and head in sand routine lol.


591ebe  No.739534

>>739521

Could you please leave this thread and go to /x/ instead?


039390  No.739537

>>739521

Your wrong about both your assumptions, I don't watch tv nor indulge in scifi, but you can track satellites online and then watch it pass over head, you can photograph them your self.

You seem to be dissociated with reality.

I'm geussing your anti Catholic as well.


02b9e8  No.739541

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>>739534

>>739537

>states valid reason on why your rational could be wrong

>encourages you to become open minded and look into something you blindly accept is wrong

<p-p-please leave…

<You are a non believer in the lord!

How hard is it to just be open minded? I'm not telling you to accept what I am saying I'm just stating that you only have one side of a concept that gives you answers that only serve itself. Of course your side would claim that Flatearth is wrong is because your side hold a different view of what the world is.

<Have you ever seen the curve of the earth with your own eye?

<Did you ever stop to wonder why all flight patterns travel towards the northern hemisphere? (ex, Commercial airlines cannot fly from Brazil to South Africa, they have to fly to England in between)

<Noticed the moon NEVER changes it's facing side. That some how it routes with a spinning earth at the EXACT SAME SPEED since it was there?

You're acting like a bunch of atheists.

I'm sorry for my previous assumption, but I'm sure you can humour me and make some sort of a relation to the point I made. People have their own personal beliefs like ghosts or ufos, why do you consider it such a horrid thing when someone thinks the earth is flat?

I posted a link just to get the ball rolling. don't worry for looking, God didn't declare investigating flatearth a sin.


02b9e8  No.739542

>>739541

excuse the reddit spacing, I was editing and generally space sections to read better.


760657  No.739567

>>739351

I was there 2 years ago, I was even considering conversion just for culture and morality. I remember creating a thread on 4/pol/ about this and getting blasted by Christians there. By God's grace, one day the urge to accept Jesus was so huge, that I randomly went on my knees and asked God to reveal Himself to me if He exists. Long story short, He did, and I was able to go be baptized as a believing Catholic, not as a LARPer. You're on the right path.


591ebe  No.739585

>>739541

>The earth being round is a lie

>Excuse me, I've literally done the lame little horizon experiment to demonstrate a curvature, and a huge part of modern technology wouldn't be possible if it were flat. A huge part of physics wouldn't even work.

>Haha you're just a drone eating at the palm of "Big Science"

Can you retards both sod off and go do something else? None of the crap he spewed was remotely valid as a reason globe earth could be wrong, not was it encouraging openmindedness. Flat earth is outright disproven, stop shilling the weakest conspiracy ever.

<Have you ever seen the curve of the earth with your own eye?

Yes, it's called the horizon. If you take a telescope and stare at the horizon on a flat earth, you should see either the ice wall on the edge or the first city with buildings blocking its elevation. That is not the case.

<Did you ever stop to wonder why all flight patterns travel towards the northern hemisphere? (ex, Commercial airlines cannot fly from Brazil to South Africa, they have to fly to England in between)

You can fly from Brazil to South Africa nonstop. Here: https://www.priceline.com/m/fly/search/JNB-SAO-20181212/SAO-JNB-20181218/details/R_JNB201812121110GRU201812121700VSA222-GRU201812181830JNB201812190710LSA223_1_USD1129.20_246603571132003376-246603571132003026-1?refid=PLTRIPADAIR&refclickid=CSR_AIRSEARCH&utm_medium=SHOP_PPC&utm_source=PLTRIPADAIR&utm_campaign=FLTCONTRACT&utm_content=META&utm_term=CSR_AIRSEARCH&cabin-class=ECO&num-adults=1&slingshot=1220

I know that's a long link, but that was one basic flight booking search.

<Noticed the moon NEVER changes it's facing side. That some how it routes with a spinning earth at the EXACT SAME SPEED since it was there?

Yes it's called tidal lock and is perfectly explainable by current physics (and it requires a curved earth to explain.)


d4d648  No.739669

>>739351

Never been a problem for me. Then again even as an atheist I was not of the opinion that science is the end-all be-all of reality. Really such a view is quite shallow as you will become aware if you take a small leap of faith.

Link related is an insightful mystic, maybe you should read him. Aldous Huxley, though not properly a Christian also speaks well of him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Law

Also Meister Eckhart von Hochheim is good.


a38bfa  No.739870

>>739356

All of these dopamine, serotonin, and bias-explainable phenomena and not a *single* mention of Eucharistic Miracles or Marian Apparitions?

Sad!




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