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>>739017

Tempe, Arizona.

>>739022

x^)

>>739022

loool

>>739017

canada

>>739017

America

The Internet.

Great and marvelous

Are your doings,

Lord God Almighty.

Just and true

Are your ways,

O King of Ages.

Who shall not fear,

O Lord,

And glorify your Name?

For you alone are holy.

All nations will come

And worship before you,

For your righteous deeds

Have been disclosed.

This thread has been done with the exact same pic as before in the past few months (maybe 6 I loose track of time). I dont understand.

The kings of the world have had immoral relations with her, and the people of the earth have been made drunk by the wine of her immorality.

There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet animal that had seven heads and ten horns, written all over with blasphemies against God.

The woman wore purple and scarlet clothing and beautiful jewelry made of gold and precious gems and pearls, and held in her hand a golden goblet full of obscenities

The oceans, lakes, and rivers that the woman is sitting on represent masses of people of every race and nation.

Babylon the Great is fallen, is fallen; she has become a den of demons, a haunt of devils and every kind of evil spirit. For all the nations have drunk the fatal wine of her intense immorality. The rulers of earth have enjoyed themselves with her, and businessmen throughout the world have grown rich from all her luxurious living.

The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn for her, for there is no one left to buy their goods. She was their biggest customer for gold and silver, precious stones, pearls, finest linens, purple silks, and scarlet; and every kind of perfumed wood, and ivory goods, and most expensive wooden carvings, and brass, and iron, and marble; and spices, and perfumes, and incense, ointment, and frankincense, wine, olive oil, and fine flour; wheat, cattle, sheep, horses, chariots, and slaves—and even the souls of men.

Babylon, that great city, shall be thrown away as I have thrown away this stone, and she shall disappear forever. Never again will the sound of music be there—no more pianos, saxophones, and trumpets. No industry of any kind will ever again exist there, and there will be no more milling of the grain. Dark, dark will be her nights; not even a lamp in a window will ever be seen again. No more joyous wedding bells and happy voices of the bridegrooms and the brides. Her businessmen were known around the world, and she deceived all nations with her sorceries. And she was responsible for the blood of all the martyred prophets and the saints.

>>739044

The whore of Babylon is Israel. It happened once already Hosea 4:15 it can (and already has) happen again. The Talmud

https://noahidenews.com/2016/04/11/babylonian-talmudic-mother-harlot-of-the-earth/

Spoiler Alert Pastor Anderbro gets btfo epic style

>>739059

given the context of Hosea's representation of Israel as an adulterous bride, and at the time Israel was the set-apart representation of God on Earth, and since Israel was a type and shadow of the Church to come, then it's no small leap to see the Whore of Babylon as a self-defiling and adulterous branch of illicit Christianity

>>739017

Read Ezekiel 16

>>739056

> I dont understand.

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say Aspergers.

California as a whole is the best bet. Hollywood and Silicon Valley combine to fit the Babylon description better than anything.

I think there’s also good chance it’s Europe, with “the beast” being the EU

Considering Ezekiel 16 says whores are cucked nations I think it's likely the west. What's also fascinating is that chapter says the Israelites were full of cucks because of Canaanite admixture. Maybe Canaanites are people genetically prone to liberalism and that's why God was enraged when the Israelites didn't kill them. The end of Zechariah says the Canaanites will be removed from the house of Israel in the endtimes so maybe all the liberals get deported in the near future. I think Rensburg also said that would happen. I know it's a pretty untypical interpretation but I don't want to just repeat what's already been said on every pastor's youtube channel.

>>739058

Sounds like America to me.

It's Rome. Rome is Babylon. Even the Romanists have admitted this since before the Reformation.

>>739017

America

The whole winnie the pooh world.

>>739017

Rome(Catholic Church)

ITT: itching ears hear what they want to hear.

My bet is on Jerusalem

>”And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.” (Revelation 11:8)

>”And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.” (Revelation 18:9-10)

I don’t need to tell you why (((they))) fit that role so well. That being said, because the beast she sits upon has seven heads, which refer to seven hills, that could refer to Athens, San Francisco, Edinburgh, Liverpool or even Moscow as much as it does Rome, since they’re all claimed to be built on seven hills. In the end, I don’t think it matters too much, since the entire world is kiked.

>>739017

Three things must be considered: political, economical and spiritual.

Spiritually mystery Babylon is those ancient egyptian and babylonian mysteric practices, involving demons, that inspired and still today inspire the ruling elite. See the Gothard tunnel ceremony to understand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSDeExBtGGU

In this regard Mystery Babylon represent the elites and their secret ancient demonic cult.

Politically and economically it most likely represent Rome, not the modern Rome who is no longer the center of the world but the Rome that existed at the time Revelation was written.

At the time it was written 90% of Christianity existed in the borders of the Roman Empire, the largest, wealthiest and most powerful empire of the world.

In this sense Babylon will be a reborn "roman" empire, an empire that will control all the world and where all Christians will live (and then be persecuted).

However being as large and as powerful as the old roman empire is not enough, it must also have somthing to do with Rome. We see today the Roman Catholic Church has been heavily infiltrated, there is still resistance of faithful christians inside, but the hierarchy is largely dominated by satanic pedophiles. They are hijacking the Church and together with other controlled churches (such as the church of England) they will try to lead many into errors and into welcoming the Antichrist.

tl;dr a global "roman" empire, ruled by elites following the mysteric demonic cults of Babylon and sponsored by hijacked churches (the RC in particular).

>>739873

So gates of hell was just a meme?

>>739921

>Rome

>Christ's Church

Kek good one

>>739017

We'll see …

>>739620

That's a risk many of us face…

>>739017

We know that babylon has to be a city, because past babylon was a city, so it can't be "the united states" as a whole. It also has to be a coastal city since it ships merchandise out and is a center of trade. We can look into this considering it is the end times, but we don't know for sure because God hasn't revealed it to us yet.

My guess is either New York City or Vatican City.

>>741327

Im thinking NY, LA, Jerusalem or Tel Aviv

>>741327

But it mentions that Babylon is both a city that represents an empire.

>>741342

yeah you're right, since Babylon controls the whole earth. Some say it is a spiritual kingdom Babylon, which could mean its cultural influences like >>741340 (LA)

>>739489

Yeah that's America.

>The rulers of earth have enjoyed themselves with her, and businessmen throughout the world have grown rich from all her luxurious living

>Her businessmen were known around the world, and she deceived all nations with her sorceries

The irony for prots

>>741431

That passage can also easily be the modern state of Israel. Israel (and her bankers) is the whore that uses the US (the beast) to get what it wants.

>>741431

Maybe if you read the Bible, you'd see that the city is referred to as the city where Christ was crucified, which was Jerusalem, at least the last time I checked.

>>741434

this would match up with the past with the prophet jeremiah when Israel gave itself to whoredom by worshipping baal

>>741438

Yeah if you consider Israel and America as inseparable it all fits quite well. But I would say 'liberalism' is one of the main sorceries deceiving all nations and all the business/luxury references can only fit the American empire. It also wouldn't surprise me if an evangelical US voted to make Jerusalem its new capitol.

>>739058

Sounds a awfully lot as the US or Israel, the first for being somewhat driving and controlling world economy, the latter could also be for tempting world leaders.

I'm even worried for Brasil as being the center of degeneracy as well. Or maybe even China.

>>739494

Yes, the Roman Empire, not the Roman Church, which is adjacent to, but not built on the ancient 7 hills. You guys are so funny, Revelations is about the 1st Century, and is even really clear about that, but you Protestants have made up all these wacky cults based on a book of prophecy, written in specific prophetic language with clear allusions to the OT that anyone in the 1st Century would have recognized and understood.

>>747497

Do you have a link to a decent talk on this with scriptural references? I recently heard a talk on the “Institute of Catholic Culture” that has a great 3 part talk on this, but I don’t know how to share it and I think it would help our brothers who are in error about this topic.

Even the Catholic Church believes Rome is Spiritual Babylon (Rev. 18:4; 2 Thess. 2:3-4) based on their interpretation of 1 Peter 5:13. The Papist Antichrist Institution (founded on Constantine's fear of losing his emperorship and further based on his love of Arius, as in when he preferred and supported him during the Council of Nicaea) created the "original Islam" (DuckDuckGo "Muawiya Gedera inscription or visit here and focus on the text surrounding the last two pics on the page: http://crc-internet.org/our-doctrine/catholic-renaissance/islam/islamophobia-islamology/) which lasted until the Ummayyads rebelled due to power-lust and changed their direction of prayer from the Catholic Petra to wasteland 5th

c. AD town of Mecca (of Hejaz) around 725 AD, and their Dominicans and Jesuits are behind most of the world's ills from the beginning of their respective inceptions. (https://youtube.com/watch?v=fPbNJhMq2To). Ecumenism is of Satan (hence "Enlightenment" derived from "Lucifer"), and no believer should support people that they know preach a false gospel (Eph. 2:8-9, Isaiah 64:6), but rather should love them enough to correct them with the truth (Matthew 10:34-39). Be saved, now:

>Romans 3:23

>Romans 5:8

>Romans 10:9 (Acts 16:30-31)

Los Angeles seems like the best bet if you are looking for a powerful and highly degenerate city. I can't think of a better candidate especially when i consider how influential LA is. Hollywood is the USA to many people in the world.

>>747524

>Sexual degeneracy was pushed in Europe long before the US

Europe doesn't push sexual degeneracy because Europe isn't a global superpower. America and it's blood brothers in Israel are. That's where all pro-sodomy ideas come from, and maybe you forget, America occupied Europe post ww2 and controls all its media.

And since we're talking about something that resembles Mystery Babylon, the idea that current Europe could be a contender is laughable.

>>747524

>Turkey

>part of Europe

no thanks…even if I got a Christian Turkish friend.

>>747591

>It's different when we do it

It was ancient Jerusalem, no doubt.

I believe it's unironically Canada.

Unironically Rome, but not the Catholic Church:

>In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit [i.e., as bishop].

Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations, and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills [i.e. Rome] will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge[a] will judge his people. The End.

>>747640

Most mediocre Babylon ever.

>>747640

lmao

The Congo