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Probably has something to do with the dark times he lived in

Sounds more like the orthodox church before and after the USSR.

Seems to align with the Fatima prophecies – the Akita ones, too. Worth paying attention to.

t. gadolig

There are enough predictions of saints that some contradict with each other. Just because he's a saint, does not mean he is absolutely right about absolutely everything.

>>738949

this

>>739010

The real problem is the last part, with the return of a king. Which is problematic since it remind the beast of revelation with nine head and seven crown. Since also, all countries have similar prophecies. France for example have the serious prophecy that a legitimate king will return. Germans too believe something similar, (the emperor frederic III is sleeping in a mountain and will wake up). So I take it all with cautions. It's necessary to take all private revelations with caution since the psyche of the prophet can distort it.

Not to add, the last part is the fact of two women. And when you speak psyche… Women had a bad role as prophetess in early christianism (really numerous in gnosticism). Origen forbid women to prophetise, proving women did not prophetise in the OT.

>“Men should not sit and listen to a woman . . . even if she says admirable things, or even saintly things, that is of little consequence, since it came from the mouth of a woman.”

>Fragments on 1 Corinthians

>>739015

Even the Greeks have their own sleeping emperor prophecy.

>>739020

One more thing I would like to add, is that we shouldn't listen to these "great monarch" prophecies, cause there is only one great monarch that will return.

>>739015

>>739025

>>739020

Sounds a lot like the "Marble King" legend

>A legend tells that when the Ottomans entered the city, an angel rescued the emperor, turned him into marble and placed him in a cave under the earth near the Golden Gate, where he waits to be brought to life again to conquer the city back for Christians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_XI_Palaiologos

>>738841

No.

>literally the same basic nonsense every "seer" claims will happen

>always vague

>>739015

What about Miriam?

>>739096

Origen speak of the prophetess in the OT and says that they did not spoke publicly in an assembly.

>>739103

Origen was wrong on some crucial things, too, like the preexistence of souls.

How would I know if this is something that he was right or not? Is there anyone else who talked about this matter?

>>739103

What about Deborah, and the"Song of Deborah"?

>>739109

Let's not speak about Origen's theology, I understand you can't use his words as the Tradition.

So, here is for you :

>"The woman taught once, and ruined all. On this account therefore he saith, let her not teach. But what is it to other women, that she suffered this? It certainly concerns them; for the sex is weak and fickle, and he is speaking of the sex collectively." (Saint John chrysostom, Homily 9 on 1 Timothy).

>Jerome, speaking about some exegete "What a shame ! Men learn from women what they should teach them." Letter 53, 7 (I don't know if these exegete were women).

>>739119

Origen speak of her too, she "did not spoke publicly in an assembly". Same for Huldah and Anna.

>>739015

I don't think it's a prophecy.

It's just the Law of our hearts longing for Patriarchy.

>>738921

We already consecrated Russia to the immaculate Heart of Mary.

So it's worth considering.

>>739198

You haven't.

>>739210

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consecration_of_Russia

>>739225

Don't be silly. The "whole world" was consecrated, and it's not even a consecration since Russians reject it and most of the world reject it. They didn't even know there was such a "consecration".

>>739369

The words of St. Lucia hold more authority than yours, anon.

>>739374

Prop believes that Lucia was a fake

>>739377

Prop? Why should I care about the opinion of set and theater pieces?

>>739374

I believed St. Lucia said the consecration failed as barely anyone had care for it, thus why WW2, the USSR, cold war, and our Lady of Akita apparitions happened.

>>739765

>Though St. Seraphim of Sarov also predicted the restoration of the French and Austrian dinasties, once again in charge of their empires, and both sides speak of the retaking of Constantinople, followed by the Mending of the Great Schism, which is also weird.

Sauce?

“Constantinople and Jerusalem will be inhabited by the combined powers of Russia and the others. At the division of Turkey almost all will go to Russia, and Russia with the united forces of many other States will take Vienna, and about 7 million native Viennese will remain under the house of the Hapsburgs, and there the territory of the Austrian empire will be constructed. To France for her love for the Mother of God, the holy Madonna, will be given up to 17 million Frenchmen with its capital in the city of Rheims, while Paris will be completely destroyed… When the Russian Empire will receive 170 million into its dominion, we must expect the appearance of the Antichrist. 1) The Antichrist will be born in Russia between Petersburg and Moscow, in that great town which will be formed after the union of all the Slavic tribes with Russia. It will be the second capital of the Russian Kingdom and will be called ‘Moscow-Petrograd’, or ‘the City of the End’, which name will be given to it by the Lord God, the Holy Spirit, Who foresees everything from afar. 2) Before the birth of the Antichrist an Eighth Ecumenical Council must be convened of all the Churches under the One Head, Christ and under the one Protecting Veil of the Mother of God [according to St. Nilus the myrrh-gusher: “a last and eighth Ecumenical Council to deal with the disputes of heretics and separate the wheat from the chaff]. Its aim will be to unite and reunite all the holy Churches of Christ against the growing antichristian tendency under a single Head, Christ the Life-Giver, and under a single Protecting Veil of His Most Pure Mother, and to deliver to a final curse against the whole of Masonry and all the parties similar to it (under whatever names they may appear), the leaders of whom have one common aim: under the pretext of complete egalitarian earthly prosperity, and with the aid of people who have been made fanatical by them, to create anarchy in all states and to destroy Christianity throughout the world, and, finally, by the power of gold concentrated in their hands, to subdue the whole world to antichristianity in the person of a single autocratic, God-fighting tsar - one king over the whole world.

>>739826

for >>739776

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2016/june/no-evangelizing-outside-of-church-russia-proposes.html

Well Russia is no Third Rome yet

>>738841

>The time will come when there will be no persecution, but money and the attractions of this world will draw people away from God and many more souls will perish than during the period of open militant atheism.

This is why I think capitalistic liberalism is worse than communism.

>>739827

>>739826

Thanks my dude.

>>740024

A lot of these ortho prophecies are a little to ethno-centric for my liking. Pretty sure the new testament says nothing about a specific ethnicity becoming the new 'special people'.

>>739765

I really hope Christendom reunites, and the Latin church cleans itself up

>>740483

>a little to ethno-centric for my liking

Then go be a prot.