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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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cedf94  No.738364

LIMERICK, Ireland, (LifeSiteNews) – Cardinal Raymond Burke has come out criticizing the concept of “synodality” that was barely discussed during the recently concluded “Youth Synod,” but, nevertheless, found its way into the final document, surprising many of the Synod Fathers.

“It’s become like a slogan, meant to suggest some kind of new church which is democratic and in which the authority of the Roman Pontiff is relativized and diminished—if not destroyed,” said Cardinal Burke in an exclusive interview with LifeSiteNews.

“This is typical of a lot of things in the Church, today. The enthusiasts for ‘synodality’ keep talking about it, but I can’t find any definition of what it is,” he said.

During Lumen Fidei’s “CatholicVoice” conference in Ireland this past weekend, the Cardinal answered questions from LifeSiteNews on topics ranging from spiritual warfare, the attack on marriage, and the controversial notion of “synodality.”

When pressed on why he believed the term “synodality” was found throughout the final document from the “Youth Synod”, when the concept itself was never addressed, Burke replied: “It's typical of the synod of bishops in these last times that it's used as a kind of political tool to suddenly promote ideas that weren’t even discussed in the synod itself – and that’s not honest.”

When asked if the principle of “synodality” was applied to the USCCB Conference in Baltimore, MD last month — where the Vatican asked the bishops to delay voting on two measures to address the sexual abuse crisis — the Cardinal responded: “It’s difficult to say whether it was applied or not because there is no definition of the term.”

Addressing why a synod would be called, historically, Cardinal Burke explained that synods of bishops were created to reaffirm the teachings of the Church, never to dictate new doctrine.

“There has existed in the Latin Church the notion of a synod—a synod was held in either a diocese or a province—or even on a national level—to find ways to teach the Catholic Faith more effectively and to promote the proper discipline in the Church. That’s basically what a synod of bishops is—that’s its definition. It’s a meeting of bishops to assist the Pope to see how to teach the Faith more effectively and how to promote a more faithful Christian life in accordance with the discipline of the Church. But now, seemingly, the term 'synodality' is being used to suggest that conferences of bishops would have Doctrinal Authority," he said,

"It’s all quite confused, and I would say very dangerous. People not understanding the notion of a synod correctly could think, for instance, that the Catholic Church has now become some kind of democratic body with some kind of new constitution,” he added.

Burke addressed this concept of “ecclesiastical deconstruction”—part of what some in the hierarchy have labeled the “new paradigm” – by reaffirming the Petrine foundation of the Catholic Church.

“The Catholic Church is an organic reality of grace, which comes to us from Our Lord, Himself. He constituted the Church — once and for all — the same: One Faith with the Sacraments, one discipline, one governance. These things have to, now, be made very clear,” he said.

Bishop Athanasius Schneider has also raised concern about the concept of synodality, saying last month that it was being used at the Youth Synod by some high-ranking clergy to “promote their own agenda.”

“Pushing through the theme of ‘synodality’ in the final document, in disregard for authentic synodal methods — since this topic was not sufficiently debated in the synod hall, and there was not enough time to read the final text, which was given to the bishops only in Italian – is a demonstration of an exasperated clericalism. Such ‘synodal’ clericalism intends to transform the life of the Church into a worldly and Protestant parliament style with continuous discussions and voting processes on matters that cannot be put to a vote,” he said.

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7696c8  No.738380

Let those faggot make their democratic church if they want. They won't last 2 years cut of from the Pope. No one would take those faggots seriously.


1ac25a  No.738382

>>738380

>cut off from the Pope.

>implying hip & press savvy bergoglibro wouldn't love the idea of "a more democratic church"


7696c8  No.738385

>>738382

>implying any sane man who is the Absolute ruler of a country/organization would let go the power.

And specially the Pope who by the nature of his own office must be the supreme teacher and servant.


b93a23  No.738438

Care to opine orthobros?

Legit curious as to how this looks to y'all


c43765  No.738512

>>738438

Looks to me like paradoxically a step in the right and wrong direction. Right in that the Pope’s power should be shared with other people, but bad because those other people the synods are asking for are homosexuals and Communists and basically anybody who has any old opinon, and not the other patriarchs of the Church. I will pray that a true reform will come to the Catholic Church, because despite everything, you’re still our brothers and sisters in Christ.


1ac1a2  No.738514

>>738438

Bad. It's not about sharing the power of the pope or any nonsense like this. The Catholic view of the Pope's powers is somewhat equivilant to the Orthodox view of an ecumenical councils power.

Here with the synods we see people drafting up church teaching that has neither been declared by a Pope nor an ecumenical council. It's essentially giving this power to the laity


b539cd  No.738522

>>738364

Why don't people like these just become Orthodox? Same with the Sedevacantists? It makes a lot more sense than all these loopholes.


331b34  No.738556

>>738522

Cognitive dissonance and "muh keys"


e41366  No.738561

>>738512

>Right in that the Pope’s power should be shared with other people

Wouldn't this be a attack on Vatican I?


9764ed  No.738562

>>738522

Because their reasons for wanting Synodality is 'I want Gay Marriage, Communism, and muh Universal Franchise'. They're more akin to a bad parody of low-church Protestantism than the Orthodox Church. Imagine if these types tried to enforce their idea of 'synodality' on one of the Ecumenical Councils, it'd be horrific.

Can't speak for the Empty Seat folks since I don't really understand their stance on the matter to begin with. Is Benzedrine the real Bishop of Rome? If the conclave was illegitimate then how do we assemble a legitimate one? How far back does the chain o' illegitimacy even go?


e41366  No.738563

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>>738562

Even though some anons on here consider him to be a meme, Jay Dyer has a good video on the subject of Sedevacantism.




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