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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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fa34bc  No.734317

Hey /pol/. I know that turn the other cheek is a very misunderstood phrase, that had a completly different cultural context during the time of Jesus. I know about that one, but can some knowledgable christanon post about the meanings of other commonly used christian phrases like "whoever forces you to go one mile, walk two" and "whoever sues for your shirt, give him your mantle too" or whatever that was.

I can talk about the turn the other cheek phrase.

In the middle east even today and not so long ago in Europe, using the left hand was sinful. I think this basically comes from them collectively deciding that the left hand was reserved for all of the filthy stuff you do. Toilet paper and modern sanitation didn't exist after all. So over time it turned into a commandment/superstition.

Anyway so you would just never use your left hand to slap someone. So the only hand you can use to slap someone was your right hand. Romans occupied Palestine and as a sign of submission would slap people. A backhanded slap with the right hand to humiliate them and to show that they are not equal. "A slap to the face" is still a metaphor for one of the gravest insults you can do to other people. However if you turned the other cheek (your left one) towards the Roman Soldier, a backhanded slap would turn into an openfaced slap. That was less humiliating and made you an equal to him. It's smart passive-aggressive resistance against an overwhelming force. And not mindless stupid pacifism "If you let your enemy slap you, you win".

I know the other phrases have similar meanings, but I want to know the exact ones and not just speculate about their meaning.

e9a0dc  No.734321

>>734317

Jesus is telling you to let them slap both cheeks to take the lowest of positions.


fa34bc  No.734325

>>734321

Achmed pls go and stay go.


e9a0dc  No.734326

>>734325

What a vile response.

I hope you get banned from this board


fa34bc  No.734327

>>734326

>not replying to my thread properly

>saying things that are demonstrably wrong in the cultural and historic context of that bible quote

This is the same heresy that made some christian nuns seek out the sick and eat their puss, because sickness is a blessing from God.

The Meek shall inherit the Earth meant something else in the original greek and hebrew. It was more about the gentle/humble/mild people, who inherit the Earth.


721f54  No.734328

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." is unironically a method for controlling demons. Spirits can't directly see your will (only the Father can) so they interact with you based on how you interact with others. This obviously doesn't apply to living humans. You have to read the NT as a spiritual book otherwise Jesus' teachings won't do what you expect and even result in you getting hurt if you interpret it in a strictly physically way, like assuming turn the other cheek means no self-defense.


e9a0dc  No.734339

>>734327

You must understand the literal as well as the metaphorical


d36740  No.734350

It goes beyond some limited, historical cultural understanding, as it is coming from God's lips. Turning the other cheek has always been a sign of defiance: you intentionally allow your opponent to strike you again to prove that you can take the blow, thus intimidating them by enduring both blows. "Go on, hit me again, see what happens motherwinnie the pooher!"

Going the extra mile shows two things: persistence, stamina, and defiance again. Rather than doing exactly as commanded to, you did more than what was expected. Giving more to your opponent than they've asked is also defiance, expressing the fact that you don't need a shirt or a cloak. "You want my shirt? winnie the pooh you, you can have it and my coat too, dickhead."


2b6c48  No.734357

The left-handed idea came originally from local Middle Eastern practices but has transformed into a pan-Islamic ritual. Even as a catholic, my middle eastern family still doesn't use their left hand while drinking or eating, or to even point at something during religious service or near a church.


fa34bc  No.734358

>>734357

it's because they use it to finger each other anally and wipe their butt, anon




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