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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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837f8d  No.732039

What's the deal with the Reprobate doctrine? I hear it's pretty controversial and it seems to make sense to me. I'd like to hear people from both sides either confirm the doctrine or debunk it.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1%3A21-32&version=KJV

a5382b  No.732043

>>732039

I find it to be very interesting.

It all starts with idolatry, which is a sin very common today as well. When people put something before God, that new thing becomes their god.

I think the reprobate status is basically nothing more than knowingly and willingly removing God from the center of your life and putting something else there. Most people today put freedom in that place.

This state is most often associated with homosexuality, but I disagree. The reprobate state of mind doesn't equal homosexuality or vice versa.

The reprobate mind in fact seems like a person becoming psychopathically evil. To actively try and chase God out of your life.


5ba61f  No.732049

It's real. I'm a reprobate.


837f8d  No.732051

>>732043

I think it's talking about homosexuals and other types of degenerates.

I've noticed that homosexuals show characteristics of maliciousness,


a5382b  No.732052

>>732051

>I think it's talking about homosexuals

Did we read the same thing?

It clearly doesn't talk about homosexuals. It talks about people exchanging God for idols, and thus becoming insane and psychotic as a result. Homosexuality is one of these symptoms, but never is it equated or made into it's own category.

>homosexuals show characteristics of maliciousness

Don't confuse causes with effects.


837f8d  No.732054

>>732052

>For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

>And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.


e24318  No.732078

>>732054

>being this dense

Again, homosexuality is the result of being a reprobate, not the cause of it.

Cause =/= effect

How do we know this?

Re-read the text:

Cause:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Effect:

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

As we can see, homosexuality is the result and not a cause here. It's a symptom. The disease is exchanging God for idols.




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