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Question: Christanon 11/21/18 (Wed) 21:33:42 235424 No.730575

If God is pure act, and God exists in eternity, then all his actions must be actual and eternal. Therefore, the creation of the universe is eternal having no beginning BUT it's still created whereas God is uncreated. From my understanding, this is sorta how Origen perceived it. Is this true?

Christanon 11/21/18 (Wed) 21:40:28 2bd784 No.730576

"Pure act" is the definition of a generic philospher's god, not the Living God of the Bible.

Christanon 11/21/18 (Wed) 21:47:30 92f879 No.730577

>>730576

Protestants burn in hell m8

Christanon 11/21/18 (Wed) 21:49:36 58b153 No.730578

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I'm smol brain, but I think that's similar to how I understand creation. It isn't a one and done event, but God speaks creation into existence constantly as is his will. Maybe some big brains can elucidate on the idea of the eternality of the act of creation.

Christanon 11/21/18 (Wed) 21:51:32 b92580 No.730579

>the universe has no beginning

<In the beginning God created (Gen 1:1)

Christanon 11/21/18 (Wed) 22:22:50 ebb80f No.730585

Origen says that Actus Purus leads to matter existing prior to time. That's true, hellenism is like this also.

Essence-energies distinction can explain it without uncreated matter.

Christanon 11/21/18 (Wed) 23:32:45 23ab16 No.730597

>>730575

This is what scholasticism does to people

Christanon 11/21/18 (Wed) 23:53:11 9c3597 No.730600

>>730597

Sadly, they think it's only Protestants who laugh at it. The ancient church has been laughing much longer.

Christanon 11/22/18 (Thu) 03:59:40 7050f0 No.730666

>>730575

Aquinas confirms this: http://www.granta.demon.co.uk/arsm/jg/aquinas-eternity.html