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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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9bf033  No.725941

What is Gnosticism?

Why is there so many fractions of Christianity and do all of them lead to Heaven?

Can any Sin be Forgiven?

How many times should I pray and any sort of prayers?

Do I need a Cross?

And anything I should refrain from?

And can you keep asking for forgiveness for a certain sin you keep committing?

>Pic Related Got me here

98947c  No.725950

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>What is Gnosticism?

See approx the first hour of embed related. Basically gnosticism is a movement that predates Christianity. It's the result largely of Jews trying to mesh their religion with Egyptian religion and with Greek philosophy. That's the foundation anyway, and that lead to various sects that emerged only after Christianity came about. Most of the Gnostic scriptures date much much later than the Christian gospels (only exception is Gosple of Thomas which MIGHT be contemporary with them). Gnostics consider the material world to be evil, made by an evil lesser-deity, and the purpose of spirituality is to escape the world. The real deity for them is a sort of impersonal "Light" who doesn't care about us or anything but just sits above in a state of blessedness.

>Why is there so many fractions of Christianity and do all of them lead to Heaven?

The history here is very complex. Ryan Reeves has good videos on the history of Christianity. I believe we need to try our best to find the right denomination, the true one instituted by Christ. I am trying as well, and I currently believe it is the Orthodox Church, but I have not converted yet.

>Can any Sin be Forgiven?

Christ says the only sin which won't be forgiven is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. I've heard different views of what that means. The most plausible explanation to me is that it means witnessing the acts of Christ, or knowing that he comes from God but still denying him and ascribing his deeds to the Devil, as the pharisees did.

>How many times should I pray and any sort of prayers?

Saint Paul says to pray unceasingly, so we should pray as much as we can. The most basic prayer is the "Our Father" which Christ taught the disciples.

>Do I need a Cross?

The demons fear the cross so it is good to have one. It's also an indication that you are a Christian. One should not hide one's faith.

>And anything I should refrain from?

From sin. As much as you can.

>And can you keep asking for forgiveness for a certain sin you keep committing?

Of course. Seeing oneself fail constantly to be righteous can also lead to humility which is a good quality to have.


605bf1  No.725956

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>>725941

>What is Gnosticism?

Gnosticism is an early Christian (or some would argue they cannot be considered Christian at all) sect (or rather school of thought, as there were many different Gnostic sects) that usually has the following characteristics:

- Rejecting the Old Testament

- Believing that the God who created the world, the Demiurge, is an evil God and not the greater divinity that we must worship

- As a direct consequence of the above: all material things are evil, and only the spiritual matters, since material things are made by the Demiurge but spiritual things are made by the better, original God (called the Monad or the One).

- As such, Jesus did not come down to give us salvation from sin or to be crucified to destroy death, but rather to hand down secret teachings on how to let go of the material world. The term "Gnosticism" comes from "gnosis", meaning knowledge - hidden arcane knowledge is a big thing for them.

>Why is there so many fractions of Christianity and do all of them lead to Heaven?

Because people disagree on how to interpret the Bible, how to express our experience of God properly, and what the inherited teachings of the Apostles are (if such a thing matters at all).

Catholics and Orthodox would say that the Catholic Church or the Orthodox Church is the one true Church that alone gives salvation. However those who are outside of it are not automatically condemned, but we can't really know how they would be saved - it's safer to join the Church either way. Protestants would be more lax and consider that anyone who has faith in Christ can be saved, although ironically some would say that Catholics and Orthodox have strayed too far from the gospel and so they cannot be saved where they are.

>Can any Sin be Forgiven?

Any sin can be forgiven, except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which is to see the goodness of God and believe it is demonic (such as what the Pharisees did in Matthew 12:24, prompting Jesus's teaching on the unforgivable sin in 12:31-32). Such a person sees the ultimate goodness and is convinced that they are seeing the ultimate evil. Their heart is too far from God for them to be able to come back to repentance. The sin is unforgivable because someone guilty of it simply is unable to ask for forgiveness anymore.

>How many times should I pray and any sort of prayers?

I'm Orthodox so I'll give you an Orthodox perspective. At home, most people pray 2 times a day, in the morning and evening, or 3 times, with prayers at noon. We pray before and after meals. Some people follow a shortened version of the Divine Office, with the following payers:

- Vespers at 6pm

- Compline at 9pm

- Midnight Office at midnight

- Matins at 3am

- First Hour at 6am

- Third Hour at 9am

- Sixth Hour at noon

- Ninth Hour at 3pm

That aside, we gather to church on Sundays to do the Divine Liturgy (called the Mass in Catholicism).

>Do I need a Cross?

People are given a cross at their baptism, to symbolically remember to "wear their cross" (see Matthew 16:24, which has a more gruesome implication).

Of course, you don't -need- to wear a cross to be a Christian, and you don't -need- to wait until baptism to wear a cross.

>And anything I should refrain from?

I doubt a short and unbiased list can be given here. Read the scriptures to see how the people of God has expressed their experience of God throughout the ages, which includes what we should aim for.

>And can you keep asking for forgiveness for a certain sin you keep committing?

It is ideal to stop forever a sin after we are forgiven, but sadly it's difficult. That is why many churches offer confession every Sunday before Mass.

Of course, ask for forgiveness even if it is a sin you struggle with. Ask for forgiveness even if you do not feel it in yourself to stop - God will give you the grace to repent.

>your picture

I disagree with what this says (or at least implies) but this isn't a thread for me to shill Orthodoxy. I do need to point out that what this picture says does not represent all of Christianity and there are others here who will find it problematic.

If you are interested in conversion, or at least inquiry… Read the Bible. Start with the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John), then read it from the first book (Genesis) to the last (Revelation) keeping in mind what you read in the gospels (and it will also clarify the gospels themselves).

At the same time, go to church. Unless you already have your mind on a particular sect of Christianity, check out different churches of different denominations to see how they worship, and at the same time do research on what they believe. You can ask questions to the priest/pastor too.


3799e2  No.725958

>>725950

> is that it means witnessing the acts of Christ, or knowing that he comes from God

How do we know what act of Christ looks like do you mean like seeing a miracle or something weird or do you just mean believe what Christ did in the bible

>I am trying as well, and I currently believe it is the Orthodox Church

I’m looking into the Orthodox Church as well but someone told me pray on the rosery is bad same with saying Hail Mary

Also can someone who practice or study Gnosticism or other go to heaven if he still believes in Christ died for his sin and death and resurrection?


7bc146  No.725960

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>What is Gnosticism?

Some occultist stuff mixed in with Christianity

>Why is there so many fractions of Christianity and do all of them lead to Heaven?

I myself may not be the one to answer that, but my best guess is there's so many fractions for malevolent reasons, also pic related.

>Can any sin be Forgiven?

Yes if you humble yourself and confess to The Lord.

>Do I need a cross?

I'm not sure if it's absolutely necessary to get one but you should get one anyways.

>And anything I should refrain from?

I'm not sure who you are so I won't know what to say, but one of the most important things to know is to try and refrain from the world to focus instead more on The Lord.

>And can you keep asking for forgiveness for a certain sin you keep committing?

Like porn or drinking? I'm not exactly sure about this, but if you sin in knowledge that you'll ask for forgiveness later and be forgiven, then your plea for forgiveness would probably be in vain. Think of it like this: Say there's a guy who has problems with his family. He can resort some sin (in this case it'll be drinking) in order to find pleasure, which will be in vain because he'll be even worse when he's not sinning. Or he can find God and rest on him, which (with whatever means it is) he can fix the problem and not only that he may even start to love his family.

Here's some channels I'll recommend:

https://www.youtube.com/user/onearmsteve4192

https://www.youtube.com/user/orthodoxstephen

https://www.youtube.com/user/otElders

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4VktB44EEkmQV8DymZVGtQ

and here's this movie on yt (though I'd recommend you to study it instead of viewing it from surface level because there'll be A LOT you'll miss out on):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mgUPt2KI08&t=2446s

I don't want to flood you with too much, so hopefully this will help you for a start, also please note that I'm just some random guy from a image board so my answers aren't perfect.

Hopefully this will fulfill in the meantime before other anons will come more in depth. May God bless you anon


98947c  No.725961

>>725958

Gnostics don't believe that Christ died for our sins, they also don't believe that Christ is God but rather an "Aeon" (a powerful type of being), and they believe that the God of the Old Testament is evil. Stay away from gnostics, their beliefs are very strange and derive from bad sources.

>How do we know what act of Christ looks like do you mean like seeing a miracle or something weird or do you just mean believe what Christ did in the bible

I meant specifically seeing Christ perform miracles. I'm not sure how would that apply today. This post has a good explanation >>725956


605bf1  No.725962

>>725956

Well… If you really want an idea of what you should avoid, this list can be good:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_sin#Actions_constituting_a_%22grave_matter%22

But do not take it to heart too much. There is not actually an official, well defined list of "mortal sins". And we're not a works-based religion like Islam - it's not about checking boxes to be saved.

It would be better to list the 10 commandments given by God to Moses, since what is considered a grave sin is merely based on these:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus+20%3A1-17&version=NKJV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deuteronomy+5%3A1-22&version=NKJV

Note on the Sabbath: The Sabbath was to commemorate the 7th day of creation and God liberating the Hebrews from Egypt. Since Jesus's death and resurrection, we must celebrate the Lord's Day instead, the 8th day of creation, and God liberating us from death.


98947c  No.725963

>>725962

I read in St. Philaret's catechism that we are also supposed to keep the seventh day as a sacred day, and that it's better not to work on that day. Perhaps I'm misremembering. I am not Orthodox yet, still learning.


605bf1  No.725965

>>725963

The Sabbath isn't erased - it's still Saturday. However, Jesus fulfilled it by His rest of 3 days, so we are not bound to following it strictly anymore. We still respect it as a sacred day, by not fasting on that day, and by praying for the deceased, who have themselves entered rest by their death.


3799e2  No.725966

>>725961

>I meant specifically seeing Christ perform miracles. I'm not sure how would that apply today. This post has a good explanation

Because i feel like there’s a lot of false Miracles going around or man made prophecy


c7c082  No.725978

>>725941

>What is Gnosticism?

A lot of people will respond with an answer that's half-right. They'll probably list off stuff like belief in the demiurge, archons, sophia, dualism, etc. that's only true with most ancient gnostic faiths. However, a lot of gnostics like the Mandaens or Sethians didn't believe any of that. Gnosticism mainly refers to the belief in secret teachings. Gnostics hid their doctrines from regular believers and only revealed it to the secret elect. "Gnostic" literally means "knowlege," and it refers to secret knowledge that they had which superseded the Bible. That's why it's wrong when people try to accuse regular Christian groups of gnosticism. I always see people accuse Baptists or Orthodox on this board of being gnostics, but that's just not right. The big gnostic groups still active are Mormons, Scientologists, and Freemasons

>Why is there so many fractions of Christianity and do all of them lead to Heaven?

There are so many fractions of Christianity because people start new churches over one of three reasons

1. Political disputes - issues with the leadership. Generally the churches involved in these splits aren't that different. Examples are the Catholic-Orthodox split, the Catholic-Sedevacantist issue, or the recent drama between the Russian Orthodox and the patriarch of Constantinople

>Can any Sin be Forgiven?

Yes, if you are aware of your sin and sincerely wish for forgiveness

>How many times should I pray and any sort of prayers?

Paul says to pray without ceasing. Prayer is good for you.

>Do I need a Cross?

You don't need it, but it's generally a good thing to have in my experience

>And anything I should refrain from?

Sex and drugs are some of the biggest pitfalls for common people. Keep the seven deadly sins in mind, as pretty much all sins grow off those

>And can you keep asking for forgiveness for a certain sin you keep committing?

There is no limit to God's forgiveness, so you can ask forever for any sin. However, this isn't a get-out-of-hell free card. God won't let you into Heaven on a technicality. You should make an effort to stop


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c7c082  No.725989

>>725978

Shoot, I realized I didn't finish my answer to your factions question. Sorry about that

>Why is there so many fractions of Christianity and do all of them lead to Heaven?

There are so many fractions of Christianity because people start new churches over one of three reasons

1. Political disputes - issues with the leadership. Generally the churches involved in these splits aren't that different. Examples are the Catholic-Orthodox split, the Catholic-Sedevacantist issue, or the recent drama between the Russian Orthodox and the patriarch of Constantinople

2. Doctrinal disputes - these are when a person in a church believes one church is violating scripture, and they separate over those issues. This has been the main dividing issue between all the protestants. Martin Luther split from the Catholics because they didn't accept sola fide or sola scriptura. John Calvin split from the Catholic church because they didn't accept sola fide, sola scriptura, TULIP, iconoclasm, the regulative principle of worship, etc. Arminians split with Calvinists because Calvinists didn't believe in free will. And so on and so forth

3. "Revelation" disputes - one guy claims to have received new information from Heaven, and other people say he's a false prophet. These revelations are why Millerites aren't Baptists, why Seventh Day Adventists aren't Millerites, and why Jehovah's Witnesses aren't Seventh Day Adventists. "New revelation" is also behind the "The New Church" (Swedenborgism) and the "Latter Day Saints" (Mormons). These are the most contentious disputes, and there's generally a huge difference between these churches with new revelation and mainstream Christians

Ultimately, we don't really know who God allows into Heaven for certain. We should hope that all people will go to Heaven, but realistically that just isn't gonna be the case. Try to learn about the different branches of Christianity, and look at their doctrines in light of the Bible and the patristics.


606963  No.726003

Also is praying to the Saints or Mary a sin or false worship because I hear it a bunch of stuff about that and why do you pray to the Saints and Mary?


c7c082  No.726005

>>726003

You'll get conflicting answers to that, especially on this board. What is referred to as "low church protestant" (meaning Calvinists, Baptists, Presbyterians, Methodists, Congregationalists) would say that you must only pray to God and praying to anything is worshipping it and is therefore idolatry. Catholics, Orthodox, and High Church Protestants (Anglicans mostly) would disagree, saying they neither worship Mary nor the saints and they do what is known as "intercessory prayer," effectively asking the saints and Mary to pray for them. Look into "intercession of saints" and "the communion of saints" for better explanations than I can provide


605bf1  No.726008

>>726003

Orthodox and Catholics believe that praying to the saints is not a sin. They are our brothers and sisters in the faith, who have achieved perfection and are now waiting in Heaven with Christ for the final judgement. They are praying for us, and because they have the same Holy Spirit us, we can ask them to pray for us too.

Anglicans also pray to saints and venerate them, although this may vary.

Mainline Protestants (Lutherans, Reformed…) may not necessarily disagree with the theology of asking the saints for prayers but they definitely condemn the practice itself, since veneration should be give to God alone to avoid the risk of worshipping the saints.

The low-church types, like Evangelicals, would usually say that praying to saints and venerating them is theologically wrong and those who do it are practicing idolatry.

What Protestants generally agree on is that the distinction between veneration (dulia) and worship (latria) made in Orthodoxy and Catholicism is just playing around with words and does not change that those who venerate the saints and pray to them are giving honor to them that is due to God alone, thus committing idolatry.


f39e9d  No.726034

>>725941

>What is Gnosticism?

A pseudo-christian occult movement that mutilates the message of Christianity to fit pagan beliefs.

>Why is there so many fractions of Christianity

Differences (largely cultural) between the East and West lead to Roman Catholicism and Orthodoxy. After some time the protestant reformation happened due to the percieved error in Catholic doctrine. Protestantisms rejection of tradition lead to radical personal interperetation of Scripture, leading to a multitude of groups misunderstanding the Bible in different ways.

>and do all of them lead to Heaven?

No. I believe that the Roman Catholic Church is THE Church, but you should research it for yourself.

>Can any Sin be Forgiven?

Yes. The exception here is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. The interperetation of this, however, is that it CAN be forgiven, although very rarely is due to the obstinancy of those which commit it.

>How many times should I pray

The basic rule is at least 15 minutes. However it does depend on your situation (i.e. you'll be praying less if you need to work constantly to feed your family, you'll be praying more if you have free time, etc.)

>and any sort of prayers?

The Lord's Prayer is the standard prayer. Other notable ones include the Hail Mary and all the Psalms.

>Do I need a Cross?

Not really. You should have one, but if you're unable to buy one then you don't have to.

>And anything I should refrain from?

Sin. Particularly the mortal ones.

>And can you keep asking for forgiveness for a certain sin you keep committing?

Yes, provided that you are genuinely sorry. You also need to try to stop the sin, "because you know not the day nor the hour".

Start by grabbing a copy of the Holy Bible (I'd reccomend the Douay-Rheims Bible, but the RSVCE or RSV2CE would be okay too). Ideally, read the Gospels, then the Law, then the rest of the NT, then the rest of the Bible. Check out churches near you and pick one that you believe is correct.

Also, the picture is wrong. You have must continue in the Faith, there is no eternal security from recognising that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, or else you wouldn't have to "with fear and trembling work out your salvation".

>>726003

It isn't a sin. Proper honour should be given to God, which necessitates that honour (of an inferior kind) is given to those who best show God's grace. Praying to them is different to praying to God. We ask the saints to pray for us (read the Hail Mary), in the same way that we could ask someone on earth for their prayers.

Protestants generally disagree.


85d81e  No.726454

Somebody find the template of that image so we can create a new non heretical version of it


330c85  No.726658

>What is Gnosticism?

Leaving the flesh because its evil, only spirit is good, world was created by a mogoloid god, but there's the true god waiting for you on your own to get up there etc. Pure intellectual ramblings.

>Why is there so many fractions of Christianity and do all of them lead to Heaven?

Because of human pride mostly and satanic influence. The last books of the Bible already talk about heretics in the middle of the early Church. Read the epistles of John and Peter for example. And no, churches founded by liars and followers of the evil one cannot take you to heaven, only the Catholic Church.

>Can any Sin be Forgiven?

Yes

>How many times should I pray and any sort of prayers?

Well there's no answer for that. I mean you have to go to Mass and then you should pray everyday if possible, but there's no rules or number of timers required like Muslims do.

>Do I need a Cross?

If you feel like you can wear one around your neck, but totally opcional.

>And anything I should refrain from?

Meat on Fridays during lent.

Oh and of course mortal sins like faggotry, fornication basically the 10 comandments.

>And can you keep asking for forgiveness for a certain sin you keep committing?

After a sin has been forgiven by God during confession you don't need to do it anymore, otherwise you could doubt about the forgiving power of God.




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