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Luther:

1)Christ said whosoever is Baptized is Saved

2)I am Baptised

3)Christ cannot lie

Therefore I am saved

Calvin, Evangelical, Baptist

1)To be Save I must believe on Christ

2)I believe

3)Given 2) I know I believe

Therefore I am Saved

http://www.ctsfw.net/media/pdfs/carysolafide.pdf

Ehhh a lot but not nearly all. Many protestant denoms have their own bishops and such. There are also 3 classes of protestants, 1 follows first 4 eucemical councils, 2 follows first 7 and 3rd follow none. There are also various interpretations and traditions passed down via literature and aforementioned bishops. Many denominations are controled by synods as well. But these are all things Catholics and orthodox purposefully ignore cause it breaks down their main squabbles.

>>722240

>>722242

Sure, but how do reach a state of Grace without the Sacraments?

>>722236

>how do protestants believe in salvation

belief that Jesus Christ died for heir sin nature (past, present, and future sins)

>>722245

Lutherans have sacraments and they do communion and believe it's the blood and body of christ.

>>722248

Sure, but they don't have confession

>>722251

Not like Catholics do but they always have the pastors or pastors assistant available to talk to you about your sins and pray with you after service.

>>722251

We still have Penitential Rite, but Luther said you cannot prove with Scripture that confession is a requirement for salvation or that the lack of confession takes away any part of Jesus's gift. That doesn't mean that Lutherans believe in not confessing sins privately, publically, or interpersonally as part of healthy Christian living.

http://bookofconcord.org/augsburgconfession.php#article11

>Of Confession they teach that Private Absolution ought to be retained in the churches, although in confession an enumeration of all sins is not necessary. For it is impossible according to the Psalm: Who can understand his errors? Ps. 19:12.

>>722236

They say 'I'm sorry God' and sing Oh happy day. That's literally what they believe.

>>722334

ignorance is bliss

nice pic!

>>722254

>not liking Mestizo or Mediterranean girls

Bruh…

>>723061

pelagian scholasticism is the original shitposting

>>723061

Not even the Pope believes this antiquated sedevacantist doctrine.

>>723062

"Muh scholasticism" isn't an argument

>>723067

What do you mean?

>>723069

The majority of Catholics and Catholic priests in the West believe, at the very least, that the Orthodox are saved, and thus the Orthodox are offered the Sacraments under limited circumstances. I'd say most American priests would extend this past the Orthodox to Lutherans and Anglicans.

>>723073

Addendum: I called it a sedevacantist belief because only sedes continue to authoritatively preach the strong version of the extra ecclesiam nulla sallus doctrine in our day. The weak version has won the day. Continuing to preach the strong version will only bring division and never unity among Christians.

>>723073

>>723074

"17. Therefore, there exists a single Church of Christ, which subsists in the Catholic Church, governed by the Successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him.58 The Churches which, while not existing in perfect communion with the Catholic Church, remain united to her by means of the closest bonds, that is, by apostolic succession and a valid Eucharist, are true particular Churches.59 Therefore, the Church of Christ is present and operative also in these Churches, even though they lack full communion with the Catholic Church, since they do not accept the Catholic doctrine of the Primacy, which, according to the will of God, the Bishop of Rome objectively has and exercises over the entire Church.60"

>>723079

Are you yourself a sede?

>>722236

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

- Ephesians 2:8-9

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Declaration_on_the_Doctrine_of_Justification

From the Catholics themselves and signed by various protestant denominations.

>>722236

“For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whosoever believe in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.”- John 3:16 The difference between Christianity and other religions is that you don’t have to do good things in order to reach salvation. That was the point of Christ dying on the cross; nothing we can do by ourselves can get us to heaven, it’s only by Him.

It will be harder, but nothing is impossible and the patriarchs like Noah and Abraham and Moses achieved salvation long before the church was around.

It is harder to be saved outside of the church, but it is not impossible.

NO Protestants reject the concept of institutions interpreting the Bible and passing it down, why would we hold church if we did?

>How do protestants reach salvation?

Through Jesus Christ.

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