Are there any good Jewish **especially Hellenic Jewish** writings made before Jesus Christ came to Earth? I know that Philo of Alexandria was able to come pretty close to true Christianity before Jesus, did anyone else come nearly as close as he did?

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Christanon 10/29/18 (Mon) 23:08:16 33cba5 No.721110

Are there any good Jewish especially Hellenic Jewish writings made before Jesus Christ came to Earth? I know that Philo of Alexandria was able to come pretty close to true Christianity before Jesus, did anyone else come nearly as close as he did?

Christanon 10/29/18 (Mon) 23:18:27 bff061 No.721117

>>721110

>I know that Philo of Alexandria was able to come pretty close to true Christianity before Jesus

Judaism was Christianity before Jesus

Christanon 10/29/18 (Mon) 23:21:12 958683 No.721120

>>721117

tigga what

Christanon 10/29/18 (Mon) 23:21:25 33cba5 No.721121

>>721117

I understand that, I mean I just mean writings (outside the Old Testament) that really show that. Whenever I look for Jewish writings it's just a bunch of midrash crap from the fifth century by pharisees who hate Christianity

Christanon 10/30/18 (Tue) 01:22:47 06ff0f No.721161

Interesting about Philo. I had thought he was after Christ but he lived through Christ's earthly life (roughly 20 BC - AD 50).

Christanon 10/30/18 (Tue) 08:06:44 9c9fcd No.721322

>>721117

No it isn't. Judaism was invented after the destruction of the temple. It is the heresy of judaizing, hence Judaism. The old testament religion had no name, just like God did not reveal his name until moses.

Christanon 10/30/18 (Tue) 08:19:28 b945b3 No.721325

>>721322

Jews (Yehudis) are people of Judah (Yehudá), like Iraqis are from Iraq and Yemenis from Yemen.

Christians are followers of Christ originally called Nazarenes and Nazoraians (followers of the Nazerene).

Christanon 10/30/18 (Tue) 08:39:59 2ff8d9 No.721333

>>721110

Christianity was a Jewish esotericism, the heirarchy and those influential was largely decadent at the time that is why Christ rebuked them as 'whited sepulchres', himself coming in the 'fullness of time' to reinvigorate and fulfill the old covenant religion. Philo was a oddity for his time.

Christanon 10/30/18 (Tue) 09:10:05 dff1aa No.721340

Philo was contemporary to Christ, before the Pharisees memory holed everything that supported Christianity (well, as much as they could get away with)

Christanon 10/30/18 (Tue) 13:18:22 1fbf85 No.721376

Philo is the one with the most complete surviving corpus, although other writers are quoted in early church writings:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hellenistic_Jewish_writers

Christanon 10/31/18 (Wed) 00:50:20 8e06f9 No.721699

>>721110

>I know that Philo of Alexandria was able to come pretty close to true Christianity before Jesus

Lolno. Philo's nearly a gnostic.

Christanon 10/31/18 (Wed) 06:19:34 8b2a0e No.721851

>>721117

>Judaism was Christianity before Jesus

>followed other laws

>thought of nonbelievers differently

>sacrificed animals

>committed vile acts

>disrespected holy places

>didn't even believe in Christ

>worshiped another god?

good meme

Christanon 10/31/18 (Wed) 07:02:11 df7a5b No.721857

>>721851

Literally none of your points are correct

Christanon 10/31/18 (Wed) 17:49:38 360848 No.722075

>>721851

Hello, Luther.

Christanon 10/31/18 (Wed) 23:38:43 00fac9 No.722178

>>721851

>worshipped another god

tigga what

Christanon 11/01/18 (Thu) 02:00:27 8b2a0e No.722249

>>722178

Throughout the old testament, hebrews have been turning there back to God and worshipping other things. Over and over again.

Christanon 11/01/18 (Thu) 02:23:26 206b7d No.722259

>>721121

if it wasnt canon why settle for something less?

Christanon 11/01/18 (Thu) 04:04:05 680c49 No.722301

>>722249

… Which isn't exclusive to Jews?

YHWH is the the God of their people, and is ours.

Christanon 11/01/18 (Thu) 04:09:17 33cba5 No.722305

>>722259

Curiousity. I've read the OT twice and the NT three times. I'm planning on another full readthrough, and I want to try to get into the habit or reading the NT constantly

>>721851

>>722249

It seems like you are being kinda pedantic, though you're not outright wrong. Jews absolutely were huge sinners in the OT, I mean are there any good writings by faithful God-believers before Jesus came that aren't in the Old Testament. I used Philo as an example because I always hear good things about him

Christanon 11/01/18 (Thu) 04:12:23 33cba5 No.722306

>>722305

Right now I plan on reading

>Old Testament (again) with apocrypha/deuterocanonicals

>Old Testament Pseudepigrapha

>Philo

>New Testament

>Early New Testament Apocrypha (early meaning stuff like the infancy gospels or the other apocalypses of other people, stuff which was written far before all that gnostic crap)

>The Church Fathers

Christanon 11/01/18 (Thu) 06:46:03 2ff8d9 No.722338

>>721699

>Jew

>gnostic