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>I know I shouldn't, but it's too hard

Heh.

>>718806

Be afraid of hell. Know that you could die after the act and know that you now have to spend eternity in the torments of hell just for a fleeting moment of unsatisfactory pleasure. Don't give up heaven for corruptible fleeting pleasure

>>718817

I think OP is aware of that. I've been in a similar situation, but the issue is that as a generation we've lost the visceral fear. The fear of hell has degraded into a mere intellectual fear, but not the kind of fear that wrenches you in the gut.

OP, my advice is to read the Bible for about 30 minutes then spend some time in prayer so you will be confronted by the presence of God. Your mental impurity will bring you to repentance.

>>718817

>you could die after the act

Oh please Anon. It's not that he has to worry about. If he died immediately after the fact he'd be more likely to heaven than if he lived, because once he partakes in the forbidden act he's going to get more degenerate now that he's had a taste. It's like rolling a snowball down a hill.

Please don't take this as advice to kys, op.

>>718817

tbh this is one of the most awful and retarded advise you could give anyone.

>>718822

How is that bad advice? Hell is real, and one goes there for mortal sins, heck some saints expirenced it because of vinal sins. One doesn't know the hour of ones death and that fleeting pleasure can cause you an eternity in hell, all for my "cum"/"feels"

>>718806

You have already decided to do it.

My question is this: how does one build a modern day relationship with a woman that:

a. is a virging

b. willing to marry you before having sex

>>718834

I have a question too. How does someone even find a virgin woman? Back in high school even ugly girls seem to have already had sex.

>>718831

I'm not getting into this argument worn out for atleast thousand times now.

But in any case, accent should be on love of God and doing stuff for Him, not terror and fear.

Cut off all contact with her and spend the day reading the bible and praying

Flee temptation bro

>>718837

Of course we should all do things for the love of God, but not everyone is there yet or whatnot. Maybe we have created a different God in our own mind, where sin has no consequence. So it's always good to remind ourselves of hell, just as we remind ourselves of death, to remind ourselves that this world is not all there is. The world can consume you easily if you let it. Remember, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

>>718841

Gee I wish you would get your facts straight on what indulgence is. Seeing by the fact is has nothing to do with hell.

>>718845

I know. It does, however has to do with your overall pathetic """theology"""

>>718836

>How does someone even find a virgin woman?

They exist. I married one. Granted, they're unicorns.

>>718806

All I can say OP if you are still in this thread is that while you are sound of mind now. Put all obstacles in your way to stop this happening. Let the girl know now while you are strong of mind and before you let your lust overtake you that you don't want to do this. You know you will give way in the moment. So while you can still think with the Lord properly in your mind, tell her its not happening.

>Not worth it OP. I wish I could have my virginity back. Many times I've just sat brooding and upset over the fact that I've betrayed God and my future spouse due to my weakness. And its not something you can ever give back. Don't make the mistake of giving into it. Fight the urge.

>>718838

>Cut off all contact with her.

^This. If she is not willing to abide by the Law of God, cut her off like a light switch. Do not be unevenly yolked with unbelievers, for what does light have in common with dark?

>>718806

Don't do it OP. If masturbating ever leaves you with feelings of shame, disgust, or emptiness, then the same feelings you'll get from this will be several times worse. Do yourself a favor and read Ephesians 5:1-5. Virginity is something you'll never get back, and God will judge you for it in the end. Have the courage to turn her down, as I've done to several whores who wanted to do the same with me. If you care nothing of what God thinks, then think about how it might come around to bite you in the ass when you find "the one" and get rejected because she knows you slept with whores. When you do meet the one, she will highly value the fact that you saved yourself just for her.

>>718806

Read 1st Corinthians anon, especially chapter 5 and 6. The people of Corinth back then fornicated a lot despite being saved and being a temple of the Lord.

Also David had sex when he shouldn't have had, and that messed up his entire family and got someone killed in the process.

Lastly, the urge is strong but after the deed is done you will be overwhelmed with guilt, and it would leave you in shame.

Do as Paul said: FLEE FORNICATION

>>718846

Great "argument"

>>718806

Meh, it's nice, but it fades, like all things of the world. Consider this collect:

O God, the protector of all who trust in you, without whom nothing is strong, nothing is holy: Increase and multiply upon us your mercy; that, with you as our ruler and guide, we may so pass through things temporal, that we lose not the things eternal; through Jesus Christ our Lord, who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, for ever and ever. Amen.

If you love her, are you willing to commit to what's actually involved in true love? Much sex these days is mutual genital masturbation, and involves no intimacy. If you desire intimacy, will you not make the appropriate commitment?

Also, the Bible mentions you: 1 Cor 7:9! Look it up.

Try asking God for more despair and anxiety. When you learn the pleasure can't fill you up then maybe it will be easier to stop it in the future.

👏Get👏Married👏

>>718806

You will not be able to resist. Both your flesh and the sexual brainwash in our society makes it impossible.

Your only way to avoid it is to pray and then avoid the temptation.

If you meet her alone, and she start something on you, then your excitement will grow and you will physically be unable to stop sex from happening. Avoid her or you will fall.

>>718806

You losing your virginity will not make you a chad. It will not make you happy, rather miserable if you love God. It will give you a quick fix as far as ego and hedonism are concerned but deep inside you will be miserable. Pre-marital sex is no good. Trust me. I have been there so I do know that. I have already confessed losing my virginity before marriage 2 times and although I know God has forgiven me I regret doing it. I should have saved my virginity for the one special girl I am yet to meet.

I do not know how I will tell this to my wife once we're together. I feel it will be very uncomfortable but I will have to do it in order to set things straight from the beginning. It's something I took away from her and from my soul simply to satisfy my lust, my own selfish desire. It feels bad

>Le premarital sex will make you a chad meme

I was a weak creature then. Insecure, low self esteem, not acting manly at all. Did the sex improve it? hell no.

Now when I abstain from fapping, porn and I honestly seek a wife I have become a better man.

If I could change one thing about my past it would be not having sex with my, now, ex-girlfriend.

Do not make the same mistake as I did Anon.

Take ye the narrow way and remember there are invisible horns on that woman's head.

>>718932

Thanks for sharing but REEEEE PRIESTS DIDNT DEMONIZE SEX, IT IS GOOD. However, it is only good in marriage. And yes, the abstinent life is a higher and more blessed call, but the call to marriage is still a sacrament and blessed and holy. Im sure you know this but that guy is from /lit/ and should know better.

>>718836

i think our generation is cursed to have to do thot redeeming.

The Samaritan woman on the well had been with 5 men and Christ still offered her the water of life.

>>718806

Marry her and have a child with her.

>>719108

>"then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days." Deuteronomy 22:29

Op is under holy order to marry her now.

Just thing of what God would think if you do it.

Remember when Jesus was so much in pain that he even sweated blood? It was because in that moment he felt the weight of all our sins at once. And if you have relations with that women it's another sin upon the Lord. Another sin that the Lord died for. And he still did it because Jesus loves you. The least you and any of us should do is not to cause him any more suffering.

Think about this before you do it anon.

And pray a lot.

And think about hell anon. Think about the worst possible thing. Well hell is worse than that.

So pray anon and a lot.

>>718933

>>718932

based

saw this link here the other day

http://antisex.info/en/contin.htm

>>718841

>indulgences can be bought

It's a shame that everyone who did that was excommunicated. Feels bad not to receive freely the grace of God after doing something to please him while I have no venial sin unforgiven.

>>719127

>antisex

Sounds like brainlet gnosticism. Body/matter aint bad, just had a proper context.

>>719105

We've been with a thousand women in our mind, though. Even if one is still virgin in the body due to being an incel doesn't mean he would not be a furnicator given the chance.

>>719139

it says much the same thing as those screencaps, about lecithin and phosphorous depletion, various other nutrients, brain health

>>718932

> at least 28 days

It's gonna be a wild ride lads.

>>719164

I'm on day 29, you can do it bruh. First week is the hardest.

Eh, Just a reminder for everybody here

Sex with wife=Good

Fornication=Bad

Sex=/=Bad

Cathars, Bogomils and similar gnostard faggots, please leave this board

Hey, OP here. Just wanted to update y'all. I deleted that woman from my phone. Took me three days to get the courage. I've read all of your posts and decided to keep myself loyal to my future wife. I know I'll feel the desire for sex again, but at least this one temptation I've managed to overcome. Now I'll make everything I can in order to surpass those degenerate pleasures.

Thank you everyone for all your help and support.

>>719310

Anon someone up there is very happy for you. Thank God you were strong enough to repel Satan.

The grace of Christ be with you everyday.

>>719164

>>719185

Dont' know what day I'm in but I feel physically strong, confident with people and almost free of impure thought. My mind is more lucid and works harder now.

I feel as if I lost a weight I was carrying on my shoulders. It's really incredible the amount of physical and mental energy we waste in lust.

>>719310

This is what the true chad speaks like, not some weakling drunk with lust for a thot. Good for you Anon.

I have not managed to keep my virginity so at least I do nofap and I stopped watching all porn and nudity. That's what I am going to offer..the best version of myself. It's not as good as all this + virginity but what can I do now. I want to offer what I can to make it up you know…

>>719310

Praise and Glory Be To God! God Bless You OP!

>>719310

Big if true

Seriously though, what you did is really based anon. If you ever tell about this to your friends they will probably tell you that you're a loser and that you have no balls, but it's literally the opposite. I hope I can be like you when the time comes.

>>719310

As others have said, good for you! You have done what is truly masculine by thinking for yourself and wanting to save sex for its proper beauty and context in marriage and true love. Your gaurdian angel and perhaps all of Heaven has rejoiced. Be steadfast in this victory and ask God to not let it make you proud but grateful for His grace and direction. Read Fulton Sheen's Three to Get Married.

>>718932

>>718933

Good posts anon God bless

>>719310

Glad to hear it, brother. Continue to keep your eyes on the Lord and you will live a fruitful life.

>>719310

That's great to hear, anon!

Surrender yourself to Jesus and He will give you the power to completely overcome this.

Keep fighting, and keep your eyes on Jesus Christ.

so did OP put his peepee in someone?

>>719310

God bless you anon, I came back to this thread a couple of days after posting advice expecting a post about regret. But you've done it. You should be proud of yourself your faith and love of our Lord is stronger than temporal sins. A lot of us would still be too weak to do an act like that.

>>720340

Yeah, honestly don't know why he hasn't sent another flood tbqthwu famalamaramadingdong.

>>720760

Because of the covenant our Lord made with Noah. No more floods.

>>718818

this. pretty much everything our generation comes into conflict with the teachings of the Church and Christ; I'd argue that this is one of the hardest times to keep your morals

Ironically enough it's easier for the Christians in the Middle East to keep their faith, there's strength in struggle

It's pure shame. It's absolute shame, it gives you nothing whatsoever. Take it from someone who almost lost his virginity to his whore sister. I regret my actions every single day since, and despite all factors there was no justification for it. Meanwhile she doesn't care, pretends it never happened, still wants it to happen, and indulges daily.

To whoever else is struggling with what OP did, you're already a better person than at least one other person, don't lose that.

>>719105

It's mad thinking that five was a big number back then, nowadays plenty of women are clocking up twice or three times that by the time they're 20

Hey, OP here again, if anyone's interested in my ordeals:

Some days after I blocked the first woman from all my social media, this girl that I met online sent some messages to me after a long time and out of nowhere. What surprised me the most was that she was being very direct saying things like "I'm a changed woman now, I'm much more naughty", she even sent me a pic of part of her breasts.

That second woman is much younger and "hotter" than the first one. It was really hard to resist, I desired her. This was very strange too, I can't help but think this is either a test sent by God to prove my faith or the devil trying to tempt me.

The thing is, I didn't block her yet, but I've ceased to send messages to her and she also stop sending messages to me. I hope I can overcome this one temptation as well. It feels unbelievable how things turned out to me, kek, but I think I'll be able to resist.

Pray for me, anons.

>>718817

You're not actually promoting a works based salvation, are you?

>>718836

I married one. But she is from South America. When we met, she would associate with a black crowd, so because she was quiet, I assumed that she was of that ilk. Only after dating did I realize that that was the furthest thing from the truth. Now we have 2 kids.

I honestly think it was divine providence. It’s hard not to.

I don’t think there are very many (non-obese) virgins out there. Best chance is to meet in church imo.

>>724625

If you succeeded in resisting once, resisting again should be relatively easy. Exercise your will, and just say no.

>>720760

If you were paying attention at all, which you aren't; you would know that they cycle is Flood/Fire/Flood/Fire, and that the next cycle is Fire, not flood. The entire book of revelations (at least the important part) is about the coming purge of the Earth by Fire, not flood. Christ spends a lot of time teaching you, the book of Enoch teaches you this, so many sources teach you the end of the Age theology. But you don't seem to pay attention or care. Hmmm…interesting.

>37 As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. 39 And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will be the coming of the Son of Man.…

So, he doesn't say that there will BE ANOTHER FLOOD (because this cycle is Fire, not Flood) he says that it will take you all unaware…as it obviously is about to do.

>"Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.'"

So this is something IMPORTANT to pay attention to…right now, in front of your faces the children of the Angels that have race mixed/species mixed with all the women of Earth are being gathered together to be burned along with their parents (Revelations and Enoch cover this). Also, which one of you even understands what a 'barn' ark is, or where it is right now…SMH…whatever {shrug} what are you going to do…only a few things left to happen and you better start looking for 'the barn [ark]' kidlets.

>>718806

Don't fall for it, I had sex several time with a girl that was a dear friend for two years before it happened (we experienced the same hardships together in our late teens) 3 month ago.

I couldn't resist, we started going out after it and she dumped me 1 month after. I was terribly depressed, (still a little, we're in the same prom at Uni so we see each other quite a lot). I deserved to have my heart "broken' though, for our union was based on sins.

It felt nice sure, to be considered attracting by a beautiful girl, the physical pleasure of sex and the fact that I was really eager to witness how our relationship would evolve, what we would do together as a couple, shit like that…

I would have preferred to stay pure and virgin tbh, I feel like I've been used as a sextoy and that I lacked something for our relationship to remain.

Now it will never be the same with her, we wasted a precious friendship over petty thing. And that the hardest consequence to bear for what we did, we don't talk much by SMS or as freely as before, not as naively. And I cringe, and say to myself 'If only I could go back in time".

Tl;Dr :

>Don't do it, especially if you're close to her, you'll regret it

>>718883

This is the best advice for my situation of habitual pleasure-seeking that I'm getting really tired of.

>>724625

You thinking the devil is trying to tempt you through that woman is denying that woman her God-given rights. You've objectified her, she is no longer a temple to God but instead a mere tool for Satan. Satan is there, by all means, however you are both free to choose whether or not to succumb to his temptations or reject him. She has embraced him, but it is never too late to save her. You don't have to be her savior, but at least pray for her. She is not just some tool, she's as much a temple to the Holy Spirit as you are, as disgusting as she acts

It's probably hard to, I get that, I'm in a similar situation myself. I hope you can get out of it, OP.