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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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93cfd1  No.718128

When cathodox says all the early Christians are not Baptists, they are wrong, just look at Aerius during the 4th century

(4) Next he says, “What is the Passover you celebrate? You are giving your allegiance to Jewish fables again. We have no business celebrating the Passover,” he says; “Christ was sacrificed for our Passover.”

4 3,5 Then, after this: “Why do you mention the names of the dead after their deaths (i.e., in the liturgy)? < If > the living prays or has given alms, how will this benefit the dead? If the prayer of the people here has benefited the people there, no one should practice piety or perform good works! He should get some friends any way he wants, either by bribery or by asking friends on his death bed, and they should pray that he may not suffer in the next life, or be held to account for his heinous sins.

3,6 “And there can be no set time for fasting,” he says. ‘These are Jewish customs, and ‘under a yoke of bondage.5 ‘The Law is not made for the righteous, but for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers6 and the rest. If I choose to fast at all, I shall fast of my own accord, on the day of my choice, because of my liberty.” (7) And they therefore make a point of fasting on Sunday instead [of the usual days], and eating on Wednesdays and Fridays. They often fast on Wednesday also, but by their own choice, they say, not by an ordinance.

3,8 And during the days of Passover, while we sleep on the ground, purify ourselves, endure hardships, eat dry bread, pray, watch and fast, performing all the saving < mortifications* > of the holy Passovers, they buy meat and wine early in the morning, stuff their veins, < and > burst out laughing in mockery of those who keep this holy service of the week of the Passover.

From: Epiphanius of Salamis, Panarion 75

93cfd1  No.718129

Haha just joking. Aerius is in fact an Arian

1,1 Again, one Aerius has likewise become a great misfortune for the world, a person with cracked brains and inflated pride. For from first to last, malice has been the cause of every sect that has arisen—[malice], or a spirit of vainglory or pride, or a lustful appetite, or envy of one’s neighbors, or temper, or rashness. (2) In a word, blindness is of the devil, though the devil has no power to deceive anyone who does not want him to. Everyone is responsible for his own sinning, as the scripture says, “that they which are approved may be made manifest.”

2 1,3 Aerius is still alive in the flesh and survives, a thoroughgoing Arian. Because he has inquired further into Arian speculations he holds beliefs that are no different, but are like those of Arius, And in his turn he has his tongue sharpened and his mouth battle-ready, to attract a deluded band, and a throng of people whose ears are itching and minds receptive. (4) For he too has invented a monstrous fictitious doctrine with nothing to it—a source of some amusement to the sensible, but he has still deceived and perverted many with it.


93cfd1  No.718132

And Epiphanius' own defence of prayer for the dead and commemoration of saints in liturgy

7,1 And then, as to naming the dead, what could be more helpful? What could be more opportune or wonderful than that the living believe that the departed are alive and have not ceased to be but exist, and live with the Lord—(2) and that the most sacred doctrine should declare that18 there is hope for those who pray for their brethren as though they were off on a journey?

7,3 And even though the prayer we offer for them cannot root out all their faults—[how could it], since we often slip in this world, inadvertently and deliberately—it is still useful as an indication of something more perfect. (4) For we commemorate both righteous and sinners. Though we pray for sinners, for God’s mercy,19 and for the righteous, the fathers, the patriarchs, prophets, apostles, evangelists, martyrs and confessors, for bishops and anchorites and the whole band [of saints],20 (5) we worship our Lord Jesus Christ to distinguish him from the whole of humanity by our honor of him, remembering that the Lord is not on a level with any man—even though each man has < performed > a million righteous deeds and more.


34c1bc  No.718143

Le funny and clever ecksdee


9ecc5f  No.718145

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>Arius was Pastor Jim oppresed by the

False Church

At last I truly see


f5c7c6  No.718148

Wow so funny ecks dee


1453fb  No.718155

Jokes aside, all modern errors are just rehashings of ancient heresies that were dealt with and refuted in the early Church. So in some sense there really were ancient Baptists.


b7a262  No.718157

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CONFIRMED


131968  No.718253

Can you explain Biblically why Aerius is wrong and Epiphanius is right?

I see one person appealing to the Bible more than the other.

And the other not appealing to it all.

Can you activate your almonds for a bit?


2010bb  No.718423

>>718253

Yup because ancient Baptists were heretical arians


d69649  No.718466

How can Baptists ever recover?


23383c  No.718474

animefag what do you get out of this aren't you a atheist?..


2010bb  No.718487

>>718474

>baptist cant handle the truth




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