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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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b58b5c  No.716036

What are your thoughts on Jean Borella? I've heard some Christians say that he is the only philosopher of the Traditionalist school whose views are truly compatible with Christianity.

307637  No.716069

>>716036

I've read his book "Guenonian esoterism and Christian mystery", he's definitely the only Perennialist that put Christianity before the rest of their ideas. This book is a very deep and detailed study of everything that can't be accepted in traditionalism/perennialism, explained and then corrected in light of Christian dogma.

short synthesis:

-there is no esoteric hierarchy separated from the apostolic hierarchy

-likewise there is no esoteric Church separated from the normal Church

-there is no bhakti way, jnana way, karma way in Christianity: Christ is the way

-myths used by Christian esotericists like the Graal have a more genuine Christian meaning than they think

-it is unacceptable to read Christianity in light of the theories of other religions (such as the sharia/tariqa division of Islam)

-Guenon's theory about the Sacraments losing initiatic value is entirely unacceptable


8178a2  No.716112

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>>716069

I'm just now coming to Christianity after being a Perennialist/Traditionalist for a fair amount of time. There's a lot of Guenon's metaphysical views and views on initiation that have fallen apart for me, and I've been trying to work out all the details of what I reject or what I accept in his views. Looks like this guy already did all the work for me! Placing an order for it now, thanks anon. This is exactly what I needed right now.

Has anyone read Sherrard? Is he similar? Any other authors like this? I know Seraphim Rose has a background in studying Guenon, but he didn't write much about it after he abandoned that way of thinking.


91be98  No.716148

>>716036

I plan on reading him but i'm still working my way through Guenon and coming to grips with his thought.

I also have 'Christianity and the Doctrine of Non-Dualism' by a 'Monk of the West' lined up.


b2061b  No.716254

>>716112

Borella's book has the answers you are looking for. However beware because it's very detailed and definitely not an easy read. There is a lot of academic stuff on hermeneutics, you can jump from chapter to chapter if one particular point is becoming too heavy. This is how I read it.

>Has anyone read Sherrard? Is he similar? Any other authors like this? I know Seraphim Rose has a background in studying Guenon, but he didn't write much about it after he abandoned that way of thinking.

I knew about Sherrard when I left already perennialism thought so I never had the interest to read him.

Seraphim Rose definitely had perennialist influences, however he tries to hide it and often overcompensates in his books.

>>716148

I read most major books of Guenon, I tend to recommend his works on symbolism (Roi du munde and Symbols of sacred science) and those against the modern world (Crisis of m.w. and Reign of quantity).

I would tell most people to avoid his books on Vedanta, and even the symbolism of the Cross because they can be confusing for beginners. They read Christianity in light of either Hindu or Sufi metaphysics and downplay the more genuine Christian point of view.

The real danger with the works of Guénon is that it's a lot of theory, giving confusing theorical knowledge, making people think they "got it" while having done absolutely nothing in true spiritual practice. For this reason I say just go with the books against the modern world.


aeea53  No.716292

>>716254

>Seraphim Rose definitely had perennialist influences, however he tries to hide it and often overcompensates in his books.

Can you give a few examples?




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