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>Calvinists

>Reading the Bible

Hahahaha

>>713309 (OP)

Because Calvinists are actually just really terrified of God because their theology makes Him evil, and only pretend to praise Him so they don't go to Hell. Quoting men is more comforting then.

Can the Protestants, Catholics, and Orthodox all come together to ecumenically agree that Calvinism is gay?

The hatred for the biblical gospel on this board is astounding. It's no surprise then, that everyone who preaches it while giving plenty of scriptural exposition like the men mentioned are reviled. Do also note, there's never any proof offered with their claims.

Matthew 5

>“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

John 6

>But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

>64 Yet there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray him. 65 He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.”

Ephesians 1

>Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ. 4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love 5 he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will--- 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves. 7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace 8 that he lavished on us. With all wisdom and understanding, 9 he made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, 10 to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfillment—to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ.

>11 In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, 12 in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory. 13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession---to the praise of his glory.

We love Him because He first loved us.

Repent today of your sins, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and be saved.

Evangelical Calvinism relies heavily on the Charismatic movement. Todd Friel flips out when you point this out. They keep quoting Augustine, yet ignore that he's in hell by their own belief system.

>>713331

Why tell someone to believe and repent when only God can make them do that?

>>713337

<Why tell someone to believe and repent when only God can make them do that?

Romans 10

<For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile---the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

<14How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”

The choice of God to elect though, still doesn't make a difference in mens responsibility to believe as we see Paul stating earlier in Romans.

<One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’ ” 21Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?

<What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath---prepared for destruction? 23What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?

>Evangelical Calvinism relies heavily on the Charismatic movement. Todd Friel flips out when you point this out. They keep quoting Augustine, yet ignore that he's in hell by their own belief system.

I'm quite certain he flips out because of misrepresentation in that case. The Strange Fire conference is only one case among many of prominent names in the reformed circle of pastors and elders speaking out.

Calvinists are irritating to argue with because their only refutation of free will is that it makes god "weak" supposedly, too much circular logic and mental goofiness not to mention their theology is pretty blasphemous

>>713319

One shouldn't fear God? His might? His wrath?

>>713527

Fear is a starting point, but eternally perpetuated groveling doesn't please God like some Calvinists would believe, your purpose to grow spiritually and enter into communion with God and his family.

>>713319

>Can the Protestants, Catholics, and Orthodox all come together to ecumenically agree that Calvinism is gay?

Yes, Calvinists tend to be the most insufferable of all Protestants. Their theology is utter garbage and yet they'll pretend they're the only ones who really understand the Bible. Here's a video of Calvinist weenie James White getting torn a new one by based Brother Peter Dimond

>>713538

>eternally perpetuated groveling

You essentially described monasticism. Each minute of an ascetics life is spent pleading God for forgiveness and constantly reminding oneself that he is nothing but dirt compared to God, literally and metaphorically. Perhaps not physically at all times, but mentally and spiritually at all times.

>>713550

There's a difference, a monastic's goal is to free himself from the false worldy passions so he/she can love God with their whole being. Calvinist theology has warped the fear of God, unlike Catholics and Orthodox, Calvinists really do believe that human beings are garbage and that God hates his creation but allows some against their will to be witnesses to his wrath upon the world. The Orthodox monastic, see's worldly passions and attachments as a hindrance to becoming holy and living in alignment with the logos, they don't believe that God hates them and damns his creation as a way of flexing his muscles

>>713457

is orthodoxy the new 'cool christian' denomination?

>>713577

Had potential, but was never able to kick off into mainstream.

>>713548

Peter Dimond has good anti-protestant videos but he is a feeyenite heretic