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>>708405

Nothing wrong with it, and it can be interesting to study. Just be careful where you're getting your info from, the Judaism of today isn't at all the same as the Old Testament religion.

>>708406

>the Judaism of today isn't at all the same as the Old Testament religion.

Yeah that's the point. Too many Christians today think of their own religion as an offshoot of Judaism and give an unwarranted amount of respect to modern Jews who are simply LARPers who deny Christ, they have zero connection to the original Jews of Jesus time and made up bullshit like the Mishnah and Talmud in order to justify continuing their charade.

>>708407

Judaism is the counter culture to Christianity. After the messiah came there was no need to keep the ceremonial law but Christians still kept the OT moral law. Jews reject the OT moral law but keep the OT ceremonial law.

You can but it doesn't have much bearing on christianity anymore. Modern Jews are descended more or less from the pharisees. Christianity is descended from the everyday israelites in part (there were no "jewish" peasants for many centuries because the rabbis hate them)

>>708447

It's important to be able to argue against the modern day Jews who argue Jesus is not the messiah imo. They're renowned for their pilpul, you need an excellent knowledge of the Old Testament texts and Jewish culture and history to beat them at their own game.

>>708418

>Jews reject the OT moral law

Where did you get this from?

>>708687

The fact that they pray to Satan and God? For them it's a culture, a series of rules you obey so you can properly be considered a Jew. Right and wrong don't enter into being a Jew, they think they're chosen just because of birthright, regardless of right or wrong.

Paul describes this issue in the epistles, how we are sons of the promise and sons of the flesh don't matter.

>>708689

I would actually say Christianity is even more about birthright than judaism. Judaism accepts converts and only cares about following the traditions. Christianity as said in Romans 2 is about behavior which is in large part genetic. Sadly many Christians including myself a while ago are only concerned with gaining nominal converts who follow the traditions with no concern for morality. The evangelists just want them to identify as Christian. Christianity is sadly becoming more like judaism as modernity (or maybe intentional subversion) takes its toll.

>>708801

>Christianity has higher standards

>in order to be properly jewish your mom has to be a jew

>Christianity is more about birthright that the jewish "religion" is

Pooh logic, right?

>>708812

Yeah because many people would probably know what a passover is without Jews practicing it.

>>708813

If there were no talmudists, Christianity would more influential over our nations, and people would be far more likely to know OT history, including the plagues on Egypt.

>>708814

More like simple acts like washing and bathing would be viewed as suspicious heresies.

Also look how well the OT came to be known under Hellenism.

>>708405

>Christianity is the true continuation of Judaism

How about no. Christianity is the true religion - Old and New testament religion. Judaism nowadays (Talmudic) is a rejection of Jesus Christ. It is anti-new testament and therefore anti-old testament.

I used to think exactly as you until I found out what Judaism is. The greatest plague in Christianity is the Judaizing disease nowadays so I would be very VERY careful when studying "Jewish roots".

Rather read what church doctors and church fathers had to say about it….St. John Chrysostom for an instance (Homilies against the Jews). Read about values of Judaism nowadays. It will open your eyes to the truth.

There is no Judeo-christian value. All big words meaning nothing, preached by people who know nothing or they subvert christianity. The term itself is an insult to Jesus Christ.

>>713806

That's exactly what I said moron. Catholicism is the continuation of Temple Judaism. Rabbinic Talmudism is a completely different beast that only began to exist after the transition from Temple Judaism to Christianity.

>>708801

>Judaism accepts converts

Lel, not unless you're rich like Ivanka Trump. Call your local synagogue and tell them you're Christopher Gentile and you want to convert and report back. But I have a feeling you're already a member.

Judaism is the offshoot, friend.

Christianity started the during the generation of Adam & Eve.

Judaism (unofficially) started thousands of years later during the Babylonian captivity.

>>708405

>consulting the apostate judahites for insight about what their ancestors did before they went astray

I mean, you could do it but you'd have to be a pretty canny guy.

>>708405

That's exactly what the OT is. It's from the Tanakh.

>>708405

Your post is abhorrent. Please don't post here again

>>708405

The International Jew by Henry Ford is a good place to start.

>tfw I read the subtitle as 'Eliminating Jewishness..'

this is good

>being a judaizer in 2018

>>713807

>That's exactly what I said moron.

You know when I see Christians debate like this, it makes me suspect that a lot of people here THINK they are saved but are not. You remember what Jesus says about what comes out of a man's mouth?

>11 A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.” Matthew 15:11

Basically don't debate like cynical atheists with vulgar language and insults, when you go from 1 to 100 to call someone a moron, that shows that you don't really care much about what Christ said there, which is something I see too common here. There is ZERO patience amongst the "Christians" in this place.

It's time to learn patience and clean our language up, folks.

>>713919

>If you had believed Moses, you would believe Me, because he wrote about Me. John 5:46